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#1
0 Frags +

In a recent thread people discussed changes they would like to see to cp_badlands. I went ahead and worked on some changes, most of them are just fixes and smoothing out gameplay, but some are requested features like more ammo.

If you have feedback, don’t be afraid to post it. A lot of changes can be patched up fairly quickly, meaning that trying a feature out doesn’t necessarily make it permanent.

(Dropbox) Downloads: b1a, b1b,
b2,
b2a,
b2b,
b2c,
b3a

CHANGELOG TL;DR:
- Easier to push out due to new spawn times
- Explosions get eaten by the environment less
- Changed some unintentional hiding spots
- Opened up balcony

THINGS TO BE DONE/CURRENTLY CONSIDERING:
- Improving “hitbox” of spire.
- Changing spawn timers even more when attacking last.

In a recent thread people discussed changes they would like to see to cp_badlands. I went ahead and worked on some changes, most of them are just fixes and smoothing out gameplay, but some are requested features like more ammo.

If you have feedback, don’t be afraid to post it. A lot of changes can be patched up fairly quickly, meaning that trying a feature out doesn’t necessarily make it permanent.

(Dropbox) Downloads: [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/uep9284cci5iq09/cp_prolands_b1a.zip?dl=0]b1a[/url], [url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/jhgf17o6td7dont/cp_prolands_b1b.bsp?dl=0]b1b[/url],
[url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/a03071yudm08sz7/cp_prolands_b2.zip?dl=0]b2[/url],
[url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/2he67vg32zqq62h/cp_prolands_b2a.zip?dl=0]b2a[/url],
[url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/yj0v0608tz8a7gi/cp_prolands_b2b.zip?dl=0]b2b[/url],
[url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/e5ua3uy4p25mo3r/cp_prolands_b2c.zip?dl=0]b2c[/url],
[b][url=https://www.dropbox.com/s/wqcmpcfdbaepjuo/cp_prolands_b3a.zip?dl=0]b3a[/url][/b]

[b]CHANGELOG TL;DR:[/b]
- Easier to push out due to new spawn times
- Explosions get eaten by the environment less
- Changed [u]some[/u] unintentional hiding spots
- Opened up balcony

[b]THINGS TO BE DONE/CURRENTLY CONSIDERING:[/b]
- Improving “hitbox” of spire.
- Changing spawn timers even more when attacking last.
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#2
15 Frags +

i really liked the old prolands color scheme but still
hopefully we can add this to pugchamp just like with bagel

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also i want my royalties for the name
i really liked the old prolands color scheme but still
hopefully we can add this to pugchamp just like with bagel
[spoiler]also i want my royalties for the name[/spoiler]
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#3
-30 Frags +

Why update 5cp maps when sigafoo (big brain player) only plays payload, koth, and a/d?

Why update 5cp maps when sigafoo (big brain player) only plays payload, koth, and a/d?
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#4
18 Frags +

The shutter on reds second from lobby to stone bridge isnt opening for me. Blu side seems fine

Im loving the changes so far. All the changes dont take away from the classic blands expierence but they still make the map better. Keep it up!

The shutter on reds second from lobby to stone bridge isnt opening for me. Blu side seems fine

Im loving the changes so far. All the changes dont take away from the classic blands expierence but they still make the map better. Keep it up!
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#5
-4 Frags +

upload to serveme/fakkelbrigade and we will all be happy :)

upload to serveme/fakkelbrigade and we will all be happy :)
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#6
11 Frags +

yeah, red shutter doesn't open

yeah, red shutter doesn't open
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#7
5 Frags +

collaide, you are a fucking godsend. thank you.

http://imgur.com/a/PdpwF

first image, I think that dolly needs to let rockets and shit pass through. pls let me spam.

second image, im not sure why valve put that little hole in shithouse anyway, but the roof is now missing on both sides.

collaide, you are a fucking godsend. thank you.

http://imgur.com/a/PdpwF

first image, I think that dolly needs to let rockets and shit pass through. pls let me spam.

second image, im not sure why valve put that little hole in shithouse anyway, but the roof is now missing on both sides.
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#8
14 Frags +

opening blu shutter to grey bridge opens the blu trash shutter.

opening blu shutter to grey bridge opens the blu trash shutter.
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#9
-2 Frags +

that was quick. great job!

that was quick. great job!
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#10
4 Frags +

i love ammo

The shutter from red 2nd to main doesn't work, the one on gray bridge.

ty for your effort Collaide

i love ammo

The shutter from red 2nd to main doesn't work, the one on gray bridge.

ty for your effort Collaide
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#11
32 Frags +

etf2l admins pls gather feedback for this before season starts

etf2l admins pls gather feedback for this before season starts
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#12
13 Frags +

Thanks for telling me about the bugs, I will fix them asap.

EDIT: Will use this for full changelog

Full Changelog:

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cp_badlands -> cp_prolands_b1a

AMMO/HEALTH CHANGES:
- Changed haunter ammokits to from small to medium
- Added small ammokit on balcony
- Removed one of the small ammokits in top lobby.
- Changed the other small ammokit in top lobby to medium. (Small ammo is 20%, 20+20=40, medium ammo is 50%, so this is technically an increase in ammo)
- Added a medium ammo kit right below the bridge on mid. I didn’t want to change the ammokits above to medium because that would give engies too much metal.

SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:
- Added proper blockbullets in choke (you can now do the ramp slide) & stonebridge.
- Made trains nonsolid and created proper blockbullets.
- Removed the hole between planks on spire, blockbulleted the fence and made it nonsolid. Plank is slightly resized.
- Properly blockbulleted boxes on balcony
- Blockbulleted inside the shithouse.
- Blockbulleted the floor which dips down slightly on last point.
- Blockbulleted the main bridge on mid.
- Blockbulleted the bottom parts of exterior house walls, so they eat fewer rockets.
- Blockbulleted the floor behind last point.
- Clipped away a spot on the spire you could stand on thin air.
- Mirrored clipping on a fence you could stand on in a chokepoint
- Mirrored clipping in house, as well as clipped the roof. As a consequence you can no longer stand on top of the bullskull.
- Smoothed out clipping and moving around in choke.
- Fences in lobby and last are now nonsolid but clipped.
- Adjusted clipping above launch pad slightly.
- Lamps and metal beams in lobby, shithouse and house are now nonsolid, except for the lamp above last point. The lamp commonly used for backcaps in lobby is not a hiding spot anymore. However, I added a more obvious to the eye, spot you can stand on, which is easier for the defending team to check.
- Smoothed wooden bridge on mid slightly.
- Removed the huge shit attached to the resup house & above haunter. Should make rocket jumping off the wall easier.
- Making the leaves of rooves nonsolid, in order to allow rocket jumps.
- Removed the attached piece of house above diagonal.
- Changed a barrel model next to stonebridge - Also mirrored this
- Removed metal near stonebridge/haunter.
- Explosions don’t get eaten by the crates on the trains anymore. I tried to visualize this.
- Roof on last has no vents anymore. This combined with metal beams not being solid anymore, should make it easier to manouver.

GAMEPLAY CHANGES:
- Removed hiding spot behind the fence on balcony, due to it only being clearable from dropdown.
- Buffed a hiding spot outside of balcony, which is considerably more difficult to use than the one removed.
- Added a tire to balcony, behind the fence. You can now jump to spire as scout without using the winger or the boston - basher. Not a huge change but it may improve accessibility to the spire ever so slightly.
- Didn’t make skybox bigger, but removed wierd clipping in the ceiling that restricted vertical player movement.
- As requested by Paulsen, I opened up the left side of balcony (from the defenders perspective). This will hopefully make it easier to push out and to clear trash.
- Removed tiny metal railings at floor level on balcony, next to the crates.
- The hiding spot in house, is now changed, but visual clues make it consistent with how the rest of the interior looks.

GAME LOGIC:
- Decreased spire cap time from 8 to 7 seconds
- The team attacking spire on other side of the map (4th point from first person perspective) now has 3 seconds longer respawn than they used to. The opposite team has 2 seconds shorter respawn time. This makes their respawn timers equal, at -2.

cp_prolands_b1a -> cp_prolands_b1b

SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:
- Made vents in lobby and last nonsolid.
- Made smoother clipping in balcony next to the crates.

BUG FIX:
- Fixed the shutter doors.
- Fixed gap in the wall allowing you to see into main from top right last.
- Fixed rooves I didn’t do properly.

Special thanks to Fuxx for helping me out a bit.
The biggest time killer on this project was fixing the rooves...

cp_prolands_b1b -> cp_prolands_b2

SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:
- Patched up holes in rooves. Mirrored rooves so they are the same on both sides of mid.This was done to get same gamplay inside and same spam angle above.
- Made minor adjustments to the blockbullets of the trains on mid.
- Blockbulleted concrete “step” in trash.
- Blockbulleted concrete “step” in choke.
- Blockbulleted concrete “step” in the main entrance to house from mid.
- Blockbulleted small stairs in house near haunter.
- Blockbulleted haunter due it it being possible to get caught on the tiny ledges when rocketjumping & jumping
- Changed clip brushes inside house to blockbullets. This should prevent rockets shot on the walls from getting eaten.
- Removed boxes close to the health kit on left balcony (defenders perspective) (NOT THE HIDING SPOT)
- Rock wall under dropdown is now a bit flatter to make it easier to jump into it from below.
- Clipping around dropdown is now a lot better. This should make it harder to get stuck on the concrete or on the metal.

BUG FIX:
- Fixed A LOT OF minor graphical errors.
- Corrected misses: Missed on making several props nonsolid.

GAMEPLAY CHANGES:
- Reverted the new opening on balcony, due to potential league/pug play. I want to reintroduce it in a later version though

cp_prolands_b2 -> cp_prolands_b2a

BUG FIX:
- Fixed spiderwebs in BLU house being solid. It was a bug where the spiderweb was not correctly set up.

SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:
- Made blockbullets in haunter better
- Blockbulleted floor on balcony so you don’t get stuck on the tiny wooden ledges if you jump

cp_prolands_b2a -> cp_prolands_b2b

BUG FIX:
- Fixed being able to leave the map
- Fixed two spots where you were able to stand on rooves
- Fixed a spot where you could stand in the middle of nothing
- Fixed a couple of graphical errors
- Hopefully fixed the HUD issues(?) (The settings were on default in hammer editor but I think my custom HUD might have something to do with it…)
Thanks for telling me about the bugs, I will fix them asap.

EDIT: Will use this for full changelog

[h]Full Changelog:[/h]

[spoiler][b]cp_badlands -> cp_prolands_b1a[/b]

[b]AMMO/HEALTH CHANGES:[/b]
- Changed haunter ammokits to from small to medium
- Added small ammokit on balcony
- Removed one of the small ammokits in top lobby.
- Changed the other small ammokit in top lobby to medium. (Small ammo is 20%, 20+20=40, medium ammo is 50%, so this is technically an increase in ammo)
- Added a medium ammo kit right below the bridge on mid. I didn’t want to change the ammokits above to medium because that would give engies too much metal.

[b]SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:[/b]
- Added proper blockbullets in choke (you can now do the ramp slide) & stonebridge.
- Made trains nonsolid and created proper blockbullets.
- Removed the hole between planks on spire, blockbulleted the fence and made it nonsolid. Plank is slightly resized.
- Properly blockbulleted boxes on balcony
- Blockbulleted inside the shithouse.
- Blockbulleted the floor which dips down slightly on last point.
- Blockbulleted the main bridge on mid.
- Blockbulleted the bottom parts of exterior house walls, so they eat fewer rockets.
- Blockbulleted the floor behind last point.
- Clipped away a spot on the spire you could stand on thin air.
- Mirrored clipping on a fence you could stand on in a chokepoint
- Mirrored clipping in house, as well as clipped the roof. As a consequence you can no longer stand on top of the bullskull.
- Smoothed out clipping and moving around in choke.
- Fences in lobby and last are now nonsolid but clipped.
- Adjusted clipping above launch pad slightly.
- Lamps and metal beams in lobby, shithouse and house are now nonsolid, except for the lamp above last point. The lamp commonly used for backcaps in lobby is not a hiding spot anymore. However, I added a more obvious to the eye, spot you can stand on, which is easier for the defending team to check.
- Smoothed wooden bridge on mid slightly.
- Removed the huge shit attached to the resup house & above haunter. Should make rocket jumping off the wall easier.
- Making the leaves of rooves nonsolid, in order to allow rocket jumps.
- Removed the attached piece of house above diagonal.
- Changed a barrel model next to stonebridge - Also mirrored this
- Removed metal near stonebridge/haunter.
- Explosions don’t get eaten by the crates on the trains anymore. I tried to visualize this.
- Roof on last has no vents anymore. This combined with metal beams not being solid anymore, should make it easier to manouver.

[b]GAMEPLAY CHANGES:[/b]
- Removed hiding spot behind the fence on balcony, due to it only being clearable from dropdown.
- Buffed a hiding spot outside of balcony, which is considerably more difficult to use than the one removed.
- Added a tire to balcony, behind the fence. You can now jump to spire as scout without using the winger or the boston - basher. Not a huge change but it may improve accessibility to the spire ever so slightly.
- Didn’t make skybox bigger, but removed wierd clipping in the ceiling that restricted vertical player movement.
- As requested by Paulsen, I opened up the left side of balcony (from the defenders perspective). This will hopefully make it easier to push out and to clear trash.
- Removed tiny metal railings at floor level on balcony, next to the crates.
- The hiding spot in house, is now changed, but visual clues make it consistent with how the rest of the interior looks.

[b]GAME LOGIC:[/b]
- Decreased spire cap time from 8 to 7 seconds
- The team attacking spire on other side of the map (4th point from first person perspective) now has 3 seconds longer respawn than they used to. The opposite team has 2 seconds shorter respawn time. This makes their respawn timers equal, at -2.

[b]cp_prolands_b1a -> cp_prolands_b1b[/b]

[b]SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:[/b]
- Made vents in lobby and last nonsolid.
- Made smoother clipping in balcony next to the crates.

[b]BUG FIX:[/b]
- Fixed the shutter doors.
- Fixed gap in the wall allowing you to see into main from top right last.
- Fixed rooves I didn’t do properly.

Special thanks to Fuxx for helping me out a bit.
The biggest time killer on this project was fixing the rooves...

[b]cp_prolands_b1b -> cp_prolands_b2[/b]

[b]SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:[/b]
- Patched up holes in rooves. Mirrored rooves so they are the same on both sides of mid.This was done to get same gamplay inside and same spam angle above.
- Made minor adjustments to the blockbullets of the trains on mid.
- Blockbulleted concrete “step” in trash.
- Blockbulleted concrete “step” in choke.
- Blockbulleted concrete “step” in the main entrance to house from mid.
- Blockbulleted small stairs in house near haunter.
- Blockbulleted haunter due it it being possible to get caught on the tiny ledges when rocketjumping & jumping
- Changed clip brushes inside house to blockbullets. This should prevent rockets shot on the walls from getting eaten.
- Removed boxes close to the health kit on left balcony (defenders perspective) (NOT THE HIDING SPOT)
- Rock wall under dropdown is now a bit flatter to make it easier to jump into it from below.
- Clipping around dropdown is now a lot better. This should make it harder to get stuck on the concrete or on the metal.

[b]BUG FIX:[/b]
- Fixed A LOT OF minor graphical errors.
- Corrected misses: Missed on making several props nonsolid.

[b]GAMEPLAY CHANGES:[/b]
- Reverted the new opening on balcony, due to potential league/pug play. I want to reintroduce it in a later version though

[b]cp_prolands_b2 -> cp_prolands_b2a[/b]

[b]BUG FIX:[/b]
- Fixed spiderwebs in BLU house being solid. It was a bug where the spiderweb was not correctly set up.

[b]SMOOTHING/FIXING SPLASH:[/b]
- Made blockbullets in haunter better
- Blockbulleted floor on balcony so you don’t get stuck on the tiny wooden ledges if you jump

[b]cp_prolands_b2a -> cp_prolands_b2b[/b]

[b]BUG FIX:[/b]
- Fixed being able to leave the map
- Fixed two spots where you were able to stand on rooves
- Fixed a spot where you could stand in the middle of nothing
- Fixed a couple of graphical errors
- Hopefully fixed the HUD issues(?) (The settings were on default in hammer editor but I think my custom HUD might have something to do with it…)
[/spoiler]
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#13
11 Frags +

It would be great if you revert the last call time, not being able to do point plays have really lowered the options on last.

With the hiding spot on point for demos and soldiers, improved options to check trash pushing out, I'd like to see the time changed back to see how it plays.

It would be great if you revert the last call time, not being able to do point plays have really lowered the options on last.

With the hiding spot on point for demos and soldiers, improved options to check trash pushing out, I'd like to see the time changed back to see how it plays.
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#14
ChampGG
45 Frags +

Once everyone has a chance to find the first round of bugs/etc we can try this on pugchamp.

Once everyone has a chance to find the first round of bugs/etc we can try this on pugchamp.
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#15
6 Frags +

Thanks collaide, I run a na pug group will definitely try this out

Thanks collaide, I run a na pug group will definitely try this out
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#16
13 Frags +

One thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc

One thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc
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#17
12 Frags +
RacsoOne thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc

It was not the intention of the change, but rather a consequence.
If people like it I can keep it, if not I can remove it.

[quote=Racso]One thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc[/quote]
It was not the intention of the change, but rather a consequence.
If people like it I can keep it, if not I can remove it.
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#18
18 Frags +

Alright, here is some feedback:

- There is a minor visual bug on blu's last that allows you to see people walking main, although you must be quite close to it
- I like that you removed the "invisible path" on spire as it was a bug and you can still play around spire freely, even as scout. But I'm not sure why you made the plateform of spire a single wooden piece because that crack allowed you to see people potentially coming at you and openened possibilities for rather unusual stickytraps ( @ 1:13)
- This vid is also a good example of weird clipping, especially on spire, that can be abused atm and feels very unfair to me. I did'nt had time to check all the spots with stickies just I thought I'd just post it here and let you see what you want to do with it.
- Here is the spot in resup some people talk about before ( you seemed to be unaware that it existed). I'd suggest that we leave it as it is
- Opening the left side of balcony now means that this spot in trash is pretty much dead as it can now be very quickly checked when pushing out. I don't know how to feel about it but I guess you could still hide behind the barrels in grass.
- Also, I thought I'd share that new scout shortcut because I find it pretty interesting
- The last point feels amazing without the vents, exited to see it played now !
- The spots you added in lobby and house are quite obvious but whatever, defending team pushing out of last will still have to clean them
- Red shutter won't open from either sides but I'm sure that's very easely fixed. Also as ZeFrosty pointed out, opening one shutter will open both lower lobby shutters.
- I personnaly like the addition of the tire to access spire. I doesn't break it while allowing scouts without the winger to get to spire without damaging themselves. Still, having the winger makes you 1 or 2 seconds fast, which can sometimes be gamechanging when you need to push very fast and cap asap before the ennemies contest the point.
- The ramp in choke is nice, I'm sure people will eventually come up with creative rollouts or jumps to do with it.

Good stuff all around, thanks for taking the time Collaide.

Edit: Damn some people were faster are reporting some of that stuff :')

Alright, here is some feedback:

- There is a [url=http://imgur.com/a/WrGDf]minor visual bug[/url] on blu's last that allows you to see people walking main, although you must be quite close to it
- I like that you removed the "invisible path" on spire as it was a bug and you can still play around spire freely, even as scout. But I'm not sure why you made the plateform of spire a single wooden piece because that crack allowed you to see people potentially coming at you and openened possibilities for [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCGkFF5ftVU]rather unusual stickytraps[/url] ( @ 1:13)
- [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCGkFF5ftVU]This vid[/url] is also a good example of weird clipping, especially on spire, that can be abused atm and feels very unfair to me. I did'nt had time to check all the spots with stickies just I thought I'd just post it here and let you see what you want to do with it.
- Here is [url=http://imgur.com/a/cCOQK]the spot in resup[/url] some people talk about before ( you seemed to be unaware that it existed). I'd suggest that we leave it as it is
- Opening the left side of balcony now means that [url=http://imgur.com/a/Fj9b4]this spot in trash[/url] is pretty much dead as it can now be very quickly checked when pushing out. I don't know how to feel about it but I guess you could still hide behind the barrels in grass.
- Also, I thought I'd share [url=https://imgur.com/a/u8ux1]that new scout shortcut[/url] because I find it pretty interesting
- The last point feels amazing without the vents, exited to see it played now !
- The spots you added in lobby and house are quite obvious but whatever, defending team pushing out of last will still have to clean them
- Red shutter won't open from either sides but I'm sure that's very easely fixed. Also as ZeFrosty pointed out, opening one shutter will open both lower lobby shutters.
- I personnaly like the addition of the tire to access spire. I doesn't break it while allowing scouts without the winger to get to spire without damaging themselves. Still, having the winger makes you 1 or 2 seconds fast, which can sometimes be gamechanging when you need to push very fast and cap asap before the ennemies contest the point.
- The ramp in choke is nice, I'm sure people will eventually come up with creative rollouts or jumps to do with it.


Good stuff all around, thanks for taking the time Collaide.

Edit: Damn some people were faster are reporting some of that stuff :')
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#19
8 Frags +

Just a couple notes about clipping and spots where you shouldn't be able to stand: http://imgur.com/a/nJzlN

Just a couple notes about clipping and spots where you shouldn't be able to stand: http://imgur.com/a/nJzlN
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#20
30 Frags +

https://gyazo.com/b1e3d71b310ed549b08e205a4494e98b.png

how do you feel about making it so you can't hit your head on this 'lip' on balcony at house that my crosshair is on?

[img]https://gyazo.com/b1e3d71b310ed549b08e205a4494e98b.png[/img]

how do you feel about making it so you can't hit your head on this 'lip' on balcony at house that my crosshair is on?
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#21
-2 Frags +

what is haunter

what is haunter
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#22
0 Frags +
RacsoOne thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc

Is this jump possible with the winger only, or can scouts who don't use it get up to that spot?

phobiawhat is haunter

I believe it's ​the same thing as the porch leading out from house but I may be wrong

[quote=Racso]One thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc[/quote]
Is this jump possible with the winger only, or can scouts who don't use it get up to that spot?

[quote=phobia]what is haunter[/quote]
I believe it's ​the same thing as the porch leading out from house but I may be wrong
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#23
-16 Frags +

Can you turn launchpad into an actual launchpad

Can you turn launchpad into an actual launchpad
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#24
5 Frags +
KonceptRacsoOne thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc
Is this jump possible with the winger only, or can scouts who don't use it get up to that spot?

Only possible with the winger. While the first jump onto that metal sheet can be done with normal jumps, the second onto balcony would be to high

[quote=Koncept][quote=Racso]One thing that stood out for me when just running around was this jump you can do as a scout from trash to battlements. Not sure if it was intentional or how big of a impact it has but it seems neat regardless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAB0jDyIUMc[/quote]
Is this jump possible with the winger only, or can scouts who don't use it get up to that spot?
[/quote]

Only possible with the winger. While the first jump onto that metal sheet can be done with normal jumps, the second onto balcony would be to high
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#25
4 Frags +
phobiawhat is haunter

The small porch leading from house out to yard.

[quote=phobia]what is haunter[/quote]

The small porch leading from house out to yard.
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#26
1 Frags +

I feel like the metal beams and lights in the roof of last above point are unnecessary if they are just textures- either have them exist and have collision or not at all.

Very nice changes though I think this will really freshen up the map.

I feel like the metal beams and lights in the roof of last above point are unnecessary if they are just textures- either have them exist and have collision or not at all.

Very nice changes though I think this will really freshen up the map.
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#27
5 Frags +
Chronic_But I'm not sure why you made the plateform of spire a single wooden piece because that crack allowed you to see people potentially coming at you and openened possibilities for rather unusual stickytraps ( @ 1:13)
- This vid is also a good example of weird clipping, especially on spire, that can be abused atm and feels very unfair to me. I did'nt had time to check all the spots with stickies just I thought I'd just post it here and let you see what you want to do with it.

Made it into a single platform due to the hole eating rockets a percentage of the time. That sticky trap seems like an unintended feature as well, but I don't know.

Chronic_- Here is the spot in resup some people talk about before ( you seemed to be unaware that it existed). I'd suggest that we leave it as it is

I knew of that spot, Bear said it was above diagonal not resup, which confused me.

Chronic_- The spots you added in lobby and house are quite obvious but whatever, defending team pushing out of last will still have to clean them

My philosophy is making them into gameplay elements rather than bugs. This also makes it easier for new players to learn about them.

[quote=Chronic_]But I'm not sure why you made the plateform of spire a single wooden piece because that crack allowed you to see people potentially coming at you and openened possibilities for [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCGkFF5ftVU]rather unusual stickytraps[/url] ( @ 1:13)
- [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCGkFF5ftVU]This vid[/url] is also a good example of weird clipping, especially on spire, that can be abused atm and feels very unfair to me. I did'nt had time to check all the spots with stickies just I thought I'd just post it here and let you see what you want to do with it.[/quote]
Made it into a single platform due to the hole eating rockets a percentage of the time. That sticky trap seems like an unintended feature as well, but I don't know.

[quote=Chronic_]- Here is [url=http://imgur.com/a/cCOQK]the spot in resup[/url] some people talk about before ( you seemed to be unaware that it existed). I'd suggest that we leave it as it is[/quote]
I knew of that spot, Bear said it was above diagonal not resup, which confused me.

[quote=Chronic_]- The spots you added in lobby and house are quite obvious but whatever, defending team pushing out of last will still have to clean them[/quote]
My philosophy is making them into gameplay elements rather than bugs. This also makes it easier for new players to learn about them.
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#28
-6 Frags +

Not knowing what Haunter is NotLikeThis

Not knowing what Haunter is NotLikeThis
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#29
34 Frags +

IMO you should remove the new jump from trash to battlements. Just another buff to scout and easy backcap route.

IMO you should remove the new jump from trash to battlements. Just another buff to scout and easy backcap route.
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#30
15 Frags +

http://imgur.com/a/stgUz

unintentional spot i think

http://imgur.com/a/stgUz

unintentional spot i think
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