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451
#451
3 Frags +

You don't need to tighten the vice that much. You're not putting any pressure on the CPU from left or right, you could literally hold it against the edge of a table and start hammering. The only reasons why no one does that is because you'd need three hands and you'd leave an IHS-shaped dent in the table.
I didn't get any marks on the IHS but I guess I was careful.

I skipped a few sentences, I guess. What I meant was: The voltage regulator isn't monolithic. It's an arrangement of parts. What you need is basically:
-Capacitors: SMD stuff, would be there anyway
on package

http://techreport.com/r.x/core-i7-4770k/3770k-vs-4770k-bottom.jpg

3770K on the left, 4770K on the right
on the mobo

http://techreport.com/r.x/core-i7-4770k/socket-pins.jpg

-switching devices
-control circuitry
there's plenty of both of those in a CPU anyway so adding a few more doesn't change much, the benefits far outweigh the cons (except when overclocking), all of that is on-die so you can't see it.

-inductors
That's the only change. Most of them are on-package, that's where the "mostly on-package" comes from.

Now here's the stuff you should be worried about:

http://i.imgur.com/NwY18Ue.jpg

Those gold contact points are pretty much indestructible.
Those tiny little SMD thingies aren't.
They are far enough away from the edges that you're not likely to hit them if you're careful, but if you're not (put a pillow behind the vice) you might and they won't take it kindly.
Looking back at the picture you want to hit the bottom side. Or if the writing is right side (right as in correct, not as in left/right) the left side.

Hair dryer will get sticky and messy.

You don't need to tighten the vice that much. You're not putting any pressure on the CPU from left or right, you could literally hold it against the edge of a table and start hammering. The only reasons why no one does that is because you'd need three hands and you'd leave an IHS-shaped dent in the table.
I didn't get any marks on the IHS but I guess I was careful.

I skipped a few sentences, I guess. What I meant was: The voltage regulator isn't monolithic. It's an arrangement of parts. What you need is basically:
-Capacitors: SMD stuff, would be there anyway
on package
[img]http://techreport.com/r.x/core-i7-4770k/3770k-vs-4770k-bottom.jpg[/img]
3770K on the left, 4770K on the right
on the mobo
[img]http://techreport.com/r.x/core-i7-4770k/socket-pins.jpg[/img]

-switching devices
-control circuitry
there's plenty of both of those in a CPU anyway so adding a few more doesn't change much, the benefits far outweigh the cons (except when overclocking), all of that is on-die so you can't see it.

-inductors
That's the only change. Most of them are on-package, that's where the "mostly on-package" comes from.


Now here's the stuff you should be worried about:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/NwY18Ue.jpg[/img]
Those gold contact points are pretty much indestructible.
Those tiny little SMD thingies aren't.
They are far enough away from the edges that you're not likely to hit them if you're careful, but if you're not (put a pillow behind the vice) you might and they won't take it kindly.
Looking back at the picture you want to hit the bottom side. Or if the writing is right side (right as in correct, not as in left/right) the left side.

Hair dryer will get sticky and messy.
452
#452
0 Frags +

the tape is just being careful. the vice in my shop is a block of metal that looks like its been through a war so its pretty good at scratching things. I don't see the problem it takes like 10 seconds to tape it up.

ok so that makes more sense, but whats the logic for the bottom over the top in your pic?

the tape is just being careful. the vice in my shop is a block of metal that looks like its been through a war so its pretty good at scratching things. I don't see the problem it takes like 10 seconds to tape it up.

ok so that makes more sense, but whats the logic for the bottom over the top in your pic?
453
#453
1 Frags +

I'm doubt my vice looks any better, but if you've got tape at hand then go for it.

Could you clarify the question, I'm not exactly sure what you mean.

I'm doubt my vice looks any better, but if you've got tape at hand then go for it.

Could you clarify the question, I'm not exactly sure what you mean.
454
#454
0 Frags +

looking at the image you linked, http://i.imgur.com/NwY18Ue.jpg, why hit it on the bottom side instead of the top when delidding?

looking at the image you linked, http://i.imgur.com/NwY18Ue.jpg, why hit it on the bottom side instead of the top when delidding?
455
#455
6 Frags +

IT'S MSPAINT TIME!

I've rotated and exaggerated it a bit, in the vice it would obviously be upside down, but you get the idea.
You just have to keep in mind that the die and SMD stuff are moving with the thing you're hammering. The human brain usually thinks along the lines of "we're removing the lid, therefore the lid is the moving part".

http://i.imgur.com/GNv7BTD.png

IT'S MSPAINT TIME!

I've rotated and exaggerated it a bit, in the vice it would obviously be upside down, but you get the idea.
You just have to keep in mind that the die and SMD stuff are moving with the thing you're hammering. The human brain usually thinks along the lines of "we're removing the lid, therefore the lid is the moving part".

[img]http://i.imgur.com/GNv7BTD.png[/img]
456
#456
1 Frags +

OH BOY UR SO SMART I UNDERSTAND NOW TY.
sry for stupid question :)

OH BOY UR SO SMART I UNDERSTAND NOW TY.
sry for stupid question :)
457
#457
0 Frags +

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4NYT99

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Directron)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $896.79

I have about a $900-950 budget and would just like a second opinion on part selection. I do not play any intensive games, mostly just tf2, dota, skyrim so believe this is pretty decent for that.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4NYT99

[b]CPU:[/b] Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Directron)
[b]Memory:[/b] Crucial Ballistix 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Storage:[/b] A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $896.79

I have about a $900-950 budget and would just like a second opinion on part selection. I do not play any intensive games, mostly just tf2, dota, skyrim so believe this is pretty decent for that.
458
#458
3 Frags +

Are you absolutely sure about overclocking?
I know it gets old but Xeon E3-1231 v3...
Saves you ~100$ and performs pretty much the same or better in everything except unmodded Skyrim (scales better with clockrates than with HT). Once you mod Skyrim you'd be limited by the GPU so it wouldn't matter anymore.
NH-U12S for 65$ doesn't make a whole lot of sense, the NH-D14 is only 5$ more.
RAM and SSD aren't ideal.
Any specific reason for a nVidia GPU or specifically the 960? You can get the same performance for less.
You could save some money on the case aswell, I'm not really sure what you're looking for exactly though.
Never buy the CX series at RSP. Between half the RSP and RSP there's better options and they go on sale so frequently it would be a waste of money. Also you don't need a 600W PSU for a 300W build.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($162.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $737.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-13 07:35 EDT-0400

Or you could ditch the cooler, get a cheaper motherboard and an i7-4790K for the same price as your config. Beats the 4690K unless you overclock it past 4.5GHz and that's with the 4790K on stock clocks. If you overclock it even sligthly (or get a cooler later and overclock it significantly) it's over.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card ($162.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $828.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-13 07:39 EDT-0400

Both of these builds got a way better PSU, more powerful GPU, a faster SSD (twice the size too) and aren't even close to your budget yet.

Are you absolutely sure about overclocking?
I know it gets old but Xeon E3-1231 v3...
Saves you ~100$ and performs pretty much the same or better in everything except unmodded Skyrim (scales better with clockrates than with HT). Once you mod Skyrim you'd be limited by the GPU so it wouldn't matter anymore.
NH-U12S for 65$ doesn't make a whole lot of sense, the NH-D14 is only 5$ more.
RAM and SSD aren't ideal.
Any specific reason for a nVidia GPU or specifically the 960? You can get the same performance for less.
You could save some money on the case aswell, I'm not really sure what you're looking for exactly though.
Never buy the CX series at RSP. Between half the RSP and RSP there's better options and they go on sale so frequently it would be a waste of money. Also you don't need a 600W PSU for a 300W build.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XCsZK8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XCsZK8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d8gao]G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($53.10 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct250bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr9285wf2oc2gd]Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card[/url] ($162.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $737.01
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-13 07:35 EDT-0400[/i]

Or you could ditch the cooler, get a cheaper motherboard and an i7-4790K for the same price as your config. Beats the 4690K unless you overclock it past 4.5GHz and that's with the 4790K on stock clocks. If you overclock it even sligthly (or get a cooler later and overclock it significantly) it's over.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qqYT99]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qqYT99/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($324.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97manniversary]ASRock Z97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($74.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d8gao]G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($53.10 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct250bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr9285wf2oc2gd]Gigabyte Radeon R9 285 2GB WINDFORCE 2X Video Card[/url] ($162.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $828.02
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-13 07:39 EDT-0400[/i]


Both of these builds got a way better PSU, more powerful GPU, a faster SSD (twice the size too) and aren't even close to your budget yet.
459
#459
0 Frags +

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R[/url} $90 newegg

Motherboard: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTY4A6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]AS Rock LGA1155 z77 $160 amazon

Hard drive: Western Digital 1TB 7200rpm blue $55 amazon

PSU: Corsair builder series CX 600 $60 amazon

CPU: Intel i5 3570k $250 amazon

RAM: Corsair Vengeance Blue 8gb DDR3 $62 amazon

GPU: Gigabyte AMD 7870 2gb VRAM $204 amazon

Stock Intel CPU heatsink fan (gonna upgrade to water cooling or a better fan)

Keyboard: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091DR622/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1]Razer Blackwidow Tournament Stealth edition[/url] $75 amazon

Mouse: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008OQTQSO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687762&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B005L38QLQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0H2H93FGCMAYAVYQDBJ0]SteelSeries sensai raw (black)[/url] $50 anywhere

Monitor: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008DWITHI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1]ASUS VS239H-P[/url] $170 amazon. I'm gonna upgrade to a benq 144 hz this summer

Mousepad: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UEZ36W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s05?ie=UTF8&psc=1]SteelSeries QcK[/url] $10 anywhere

Windows 8.1x64= $99.99 anywhere, or free if you pirate it (I can't recommend pirating your OS however)
Total: $1186 not counting shipping. A lot of mine are used too, so it was closer to $1000.

It runs tf2 well, as any pc should. It'll maintain a constant 144 once I upgrade

It runs other games well too, playing payday 2 is a joy on this PC. I used to play tons of War Thunder and World of Tanks, and it fucking destroyed War Thunder, even at max graphics.

The problems: it's really fucking huge, and it's really fucking loud. Also pretty hot. I play in a fairly enclosed room, and if I don't have a window cracked it actually gets hot. There are three fans on the GPU, which might be a leading cause. Also takes around five minutes to get everything I need (steam, mumble, etc.) up and running, however that's normal for not having an SSD.

Case: [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139011]Corsair Carbide Series 300R[/url} $90 newegg

Motherboard: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KTY4A6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]AS Rock LGA1155 z77[/url] $160 amazon

Hard drive: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0088PUEPK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]Western Digital 1TB 7200rpm blue[/url] $55 amazon

PSU: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0092ML0OC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]Corsair builder series CX 600[/url] $60 amazon

CPU: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007SZ0E1K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]Intel i5 3570k[/url] $250 amazon

RAM: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]Corsair Vengeance Blue 8gb DDR3[/url] $62 amazon

GPU: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007PJVB3Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]Gigabyte AMD 7870 2gb VRAM[/url] $204 amazon

Stock Intel CPU heatsink fan (gonna upgrade to water cooling or a better fan)

Keyboard: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0091DR622/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]Razer Blackwidow Tournament Stealth edition[/url] $75 amazon

Mouse: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008OQTQSO/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1944687762&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B005L38QLQ&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0H2H93FGCMAYAVYQDBJ0&tag=teamfortresst-20]SteelSeries sensai raw (black)[/url] $50 anywhere

Monitor: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008DWITHI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]ASUS VS239H-P[/url] $170 amazon. I'm gonna upgrade to a benq 144 hz this summer

Mousepad: [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UEZ36W/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s05?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=teamfortresst-20]SteelSeries QcK[/url] $10 anywhere

Windows 8.1x64= $99.99 anywhere, or free if you pirate it (I can't recommend pirating your OS however)
Total: $1186 not counting shipping. A lot of mine are used too, so it was closer to $1000.

It runs tf2 well, as any pc should. It'll maintain a constant 144 once I upgrade

It runs other games well too, playing payday 2 is a joy on this PC. I used to play tons of War Thunder and World of Tanks, and it fucking destroyed War Thunder, even at max graphics.

The problems: it's really fucking huge, and it's really fucking loud. Also pretty hot. I play in a fairly enclosed room, and if I don't have a window cracked it actually gets hot. There are three fans on the GPU, which might be a leading cause. Also takes around five minutes to get everything I need (steam, mumble, etc.) up and running, however that's normal for not having an SSD.
460
#460
-1 Frags +

Hi again! So I showed my dad my build (was about $850), and he said that how I should be on a budget as it's my first build. My budget is $700, but I can go a bit higher if necessary. Once again it's mainly for CS:GO when it comes to gaming.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PLgtBm

If it's possible, suggest me different parts to lower my overall cost, while still maintaining a high fps in CS:GO. Also, I'm still pretty inexperienced in building, so my apologies in my poor choice of parts.

Hi again! So I showed my dad my build (was about $850), and he said that how I should be on a budget as it's my first build. My budget is $700, but I can go a bit higher if necessary. Once again it's mainly for CS:GO when it comes to gaming.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PLgtBm

If it's possible, suggest me different parts to lower my overall cost, while still maintaining a high fps in CS:GO. Also, I'm still pretty inexperienced in building, so my apologies in my poor choice of parts.
461
#461
2 Frags +

I can just suggest the usual stuff to save money: Go microATX and ditch overclocking.
You could also pirate windows 7/8/8.1 since you'll be able to upgrade to a legit version of windows 10 in August for free and use that money for an SSD.

So the changes are:
Overclocking -> No overclocking:
i5-4690K -> Xeon E3-1231 v3 (same or better performance except in case of a hard single threaded bottleneck)
212 Evo -> stock cooler

ATX -> microATX:
N400 -> N200

Both:
Z97 PC Mate -> H97M Anniversary

Using the money saved on those changes you can make some upgrades:
CX430 -> CSM450 (way better PSU and semi-modular, definitely worth those 7$)
260X -> 270X (significant GPU upgrade, ~+50%)

Windows->BX100 120GB SSD (you can skip this if you want to)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.10 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($66.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $688.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-14 03:31 EDT-0400

I can just suggest the usual stuff to save money: Go microATX and ditch overclocking.
You could also pirate windows 7/8/8.1 since you'll be able to upgrade to a legit version of windows 10 in August for free and use that money for an SSD.

So the changes are:
Overclocking -> No overclocking:
i5-4690K -> Xeon E3-1231 v3 (same or better performance except in case of a hard single threaded bottleneck)
212 Evo -> stock cooler

ATX -> microATX:
N400 -> N200

Both:
Z97 PC Mate -> H97M Anniversary

Using the money saved on those changes you can make some upgrades:
CX430 -> CSM450 (way better PSU and semi-modular, definitely worth those 7$)
260X -> 270X (significant GPU upgrade, ~+50%)

Windows->BX100 120GB SSD (you can skip this if you want to)

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dKy4vK]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/dKy4vK/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($239.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9d8gao]G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($53.10 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct120bx100ssd1]Crucial BX100 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($66.98 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($47.98 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100364l]Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Dual-X Video Card[/url] ($139.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $688.00
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-14 03:31 EDT-0400[/i]
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#462
-1 Frags +
Setsulsnip

Are you sure about the cpu? When I searched about it, it said how it's only best for hosting.

Is it required to get an SSD?

[quote=Setsul]snip[/quote]
Are you sure about the cpu? When I searched about it, it said how it's only best for hosting.

Is it required to get an SSD?
463
#463
0 Frags +
icyfrenzySetsulsnipAre you sure about the cpu? When I searched about it, it said how it's only best for hosting.

Is it required to get an SSD?

I've used this cpu for a month or 2 now and it has been running amazingly.

[quote=icyfrenzy][quote=Setsul]snip[/quote]
Are you sure about the cpu? When I searched about it, it said how it's only best for hosting.

Is it required to get an SSD?[/quote]

I've used this cpu for a month or 2 now and it has been running amazingly.
464
#464
4 Frags +

#462
Where did you read that?
In theory the 4690K can beat it if you overclock it really high. But with this being your first build and more importantly only a 212 Evo I don't see that happening.
Save some very weird situations in any application that uses 8 threads (-threads 8 in launch options, apparently there's a bug in CS:GO right now so it only uses 4 threads by default) the Xeon will win even against a 4690K with a decent overclock. Against a non-overclocked 4690K or a 4690 I'd take the Xeon anytime.

Out of the box it's faster
In CS:GO it's faster
Pretty much anything: It's still faster.
Really weird situations: The 4690K might be faster if you overclock it.

If the Xeon were more expensive it would be different, but as it is it's a no-brainer imho.

You don't need an SSD. You don't need 60fps or more for that matter. It's simply much more enjoyable. Single-digit seconds boot time, programs starting instantly, all that stuff. For day to day computer usage, basically everything not gaming/rendering, an SSD is the most noticable upgrade.

#462
Where did you read that?
In theory the 4690K can beat it if you overclock it really high. But with this being your first build and more importantly only a 212 Evo I don't see that happening.
Save some very weird situations in any application that uses 8 threads (-threads 8 in launch options, apparently there's a bug in CS:GO right now so it only uses 4 threads by default) the Xeon will win even against a 4690K with a decent overclock. Against a non-overclocked 4690K or a 4690 I'd take the Xeon anytime.

Out of the box it's faster
In CS:GO it's faster
Pretty much anything: It's still faster.
Really weird situations: The 4690K [b]might[/b] be faster [b]if[/b] you overclock it.

If the Xeon were more expensive it would be different, but as it is it's a no-brainer imho.

You don't need an SSD. You don't need 60fps or more for that matter. It's simply much more enjoyable. Single-digit seconds boot time, programs starting instantly, all that stuff. For day to day computer usage, basically everything not gaming/rendering, an SSD is the most noticable upgrade.
465
#465
4 Frags +

Setsul,
you are so good with this stuff, It would be awsome if you could suggest me a build.

What i have:
-OS
-HDD
-SSD
-Monitor
-Optical Drive

Budget: max. 800€

What I want:
GFX: has to be Nvidia
RAM: min. 16gb

Additional Notes:
Gaming-wise it's mostly TF2 (I want 200+ fps constantly), but I do wanna run some newer Games fluidly like Far Cry /GTA/COD series, although it doesnt need to be max graphics.
If the Build is really quiet, that would be a huge bonus.
I really dont like Cases with windows.

Setsul,
you are so good with this stuff, It would be awsome if you could suggest me a build.

[b]What i have[/b]:
-OS
-HDD
-SSD
-Monitor
-Optical Drive

[b]Budget[/b]: max. 800€

[b]What I want[/b]:
GFX: has to be Nvidia
RAM: min. 16gb

[b]Additional Notes:[/b]
Gaming-wise it's mostly TF2 (I want 200+ fps constantly), but I do wanna run some newer Games fluidly like Far Cry /GTA/COD series, although it doesnt need to be max graphics.
If the Build is really quiet, that would be a huge bonus.
I really dont like Cases with windows.
466
#466
0 Frags +

m8 you can get 200frames in tf2 with a build from 2010

m8 you can get 200frames in tf2 with a build from 2010
467
#467
2 Frags +

#465
We discussed the details via Steam, here's the list for anyone interested an future reference.

CPU: Xeon E3-1230 v3 243.50€
RAM: 2*8GB 1600MHz CL9 110.21€
Mobo: ASRock B85M Pro4 64.45€
GPU: GTX 960 224.85€
Case: Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 64.33€

Total: 706.98€ + shipping

Before anyone asks, yes the old PSU (Corsair HX750) will be reused.

#466
Well he got an i7-920. Even overclocked an almost 7 years old CPU might be due for an upgrade.

#465
We discussed the details via Steam, here's the list for anyone interested an future reference.

CPU: [url=http://geizhals.de/intel-xeon-e3-1230-v3-bx80646e31230v3-a954057.html]Xeon E3-1230 v3[/url] 243.50€
RAM: [url=http://geizhals.de/crucial-ballistix-sport-dimm-kit-16gb-bls2cp8g3d1609ds1s00-a739120.html]2*8GB 1600MHz CL9[/url] 110.21€
Mobo: [url=http://geizhals.de/asrock-b85m-pro4-90-mxgq20-a0uayz-a940329.html]ASRock B85M Pro4[/url] 64.45€
GPU: [url=http://geizhals.de/inno3d-ichill-geforce-gtx-960-x3-air-boss-ultra-c960-2sdn-e5cnx-a1220631.html?hloc=at&hloc=de]GTX 960[/url] 224.85€
Case: [url=http://geizhals.de/nanoxia-deep-silence-4-schwarz-nxds4b-a971379.html]Nanoxia Deep Silence 4[/url] 64.33€

Total: 706.98€ + shipping

Before anyone asks, yes the old PSU (Corsair HX750) will be reused.

#466
Well he got an i7-920. Even overclocked an almost 7 years old CPU might be due for an upgrade.
468
#468
0 Frags +
Setsul#462
Where did you read that?
In theory the 4690K can beat it if you overclock it really high. But with this being your first build and more importantly only a 212 Evo I don't see that happening.
Save some very weird situations in any application that uses 8 threads (-threads 8 in launch options, apparently there's a bug in CS:GO right now so it only uses 4 threads by default) the Xeon will win even against a 4690K with a decent overclock. Against a non-overclocked 4690K or a 4690 I'd take the Xeon anytime.

Out of the box it's faster
In CS:GO it's faster
Pretty much anything: It's still faster.
Really weird situations: The 4690K might be faster if you overclock it.

If the Xeon were more expensive it would be different, but as it is it's a no-brainer imho.

You don't need an SSD. You don't need 60fps or more for that matter. It's simply much more enjoyable. Single-digit seconds boot time, programs starting instantly, all that stuff. For day to day computer usage, basically everything not gaming/rendering, an SSD is the most noticable upgrade.

Okay so I'm considering buying the parts (except the SSD). Do you have an esitimate on how much CS:GO will run at the absolute max settings? (Not going to actually run it at the absolute max settings, I just need it to see how much fps I can run it on my personal settings)

[quote=Setsul]#462
Where did you read that?
In theory the 4690K can beat it if you overclock it really high. But with this being your first build and more importantly only a 212 Evo I don't see that happening.
Save some very weird situations in any application that uses 8 threads (-threads 8 in launch options, apparently there's a bug in CS:GO right now so it only uses 4 threads by default) the Xeon will win even against a 4690K with a decent overclock. Against a non-overclocked 4690K or a 4690 I'd take the Xeon anytime.

Out of the box it's faster
In CS:GO it's faster
Pretty much anything: It's still faster.
Really weird situations: The 4690K [b]might[/b] be faster [b]if[/b] you overclock it.

If the Xeon were more expensive it would be different, but as it is it's a no-brainer imho.

You don't need an SSD. You don't need 60fps or more for that matter. It's simply much more enjoyable. Single-digit seconds boot time, programs starting instantly, all that stuff. For day to day computer usage, basically everything not gaming/rendering, an SSD is the most noticable upgrade.[/quote]
Okay so I'm considering buying the parts (except the SSD). Do you have an esitimate on how much CS:GO will run at the absolute max settings? (Not going to actually run it at the absolute max settings, I just need it to see how much fps I can run it on my personal settings)
469
#469
2 Frags +

#468
We've been there before. http://teamfortress.tv/post/409047/pc-build-thread
Using benchmarks with settings other than your own to guess how many fps you'll get is a bad idea.
Also like I said before (see link) the GPU would be a massive bottleneck at max settings and not tell you anything about performance on low settings where the CPU is the limiting factor.

#468
We've been there before. http://teamfortress.tv/post/409047/pc-build-thread
Using benchmarks with settings other than your own to guess how many fps you'll get is a bad idea.
Also like I said before (see link) the GPU would be a massive bottleneck at max settings and not tell you anything about performance on low settings where the CPU is the limiting factor.
470
#470
1 Frags +

btw skylake details leaked:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428363

btw skylake details leaked:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2428363
471
#471
0 Frags +

Tfw you wanna build a comp over summer but skylake comes a couple months after

Tfw you wanna build a comp over summer but skylake comes a couple months after
472
#472
0 Frags +

What's up

My brother is building a computer, but I'm not really familiar with the low budget price range. What is the cheapest build that you can reccommend to play team fortress 2 at 144 fps at max quality?

Some things in addition:
an ssd, doesn't have to be huge
Good overclocking options for GPU and CPU in the future
Preferably a small form factor case, I'll compare the atx and mini atx to see which is cheaper
Power conscious, if the budget doesn't jump substantially

Also would be nice if the case has spots for an optical drive

What's up

My brother is building a computer, but I'm not really familiar with the low budget price range. What is the cheapest build that you can reccommend to play team fortress 2 at 144 fps at max quality?

Some things in addition:
an ssd, doesn't have to be huge
Good overclocking options for GPU and CPU in the future
Preferably a small form factor case, I'll compare the atx and mini atx to see which is cheaper
Power conscious, if the budget doesn't jump substantially

Also would be nice if the case has spots for an optical drive
473
#473
0 Frags +

are there any components that he is carrying over to this new build? i.e. monitor, keyboard, OS, etc

are there any components that he is carrying over to this new build? i.e. monitor, keyboard, OS, etc
474
#474
1 Frags +

#472
An upper limit for the budget would be good, just in case.

Doesn't have to be huge could be anything. Some consider 240GB huge on the other hand 1TB is a standard size nowadays. Are we talking about 30, 60 or 120GB?

This doesn't make any sense. On a budget you're not in the position to get "good overclocking options" for the sake of overclocking. You'll be choosing by price to performance ratio and price. Either you won't overclock soon then you can't afford to take overclockability into account or you go by the price to performance ratio when overclocked in that case you have to overclock to make the parts worthwhile. There are also no good CPU overclocking options right now. The only thing that is low budget is the Pentium G3258 and you absolutely have to overclock it, not just some day in the future but right after you build it or the whole build becomes pointless.

ATX isn't small form factor. mATX is cheaper.

Probably not much I can do for efficiency, you get what you pay for.

Does he have an ODD already?
Like Pheesh said, will any parts be reused?

#472
An upper limit for the budget would be good, just in case.

Doesn't have to be huge could be anything. Some consider 240GB huge on the other hand 1TB is a standard size nowadays. Are we talking about 30, 60 or 120GB?

This doesn't make any sense. On a budget you're not in the position to get "good overclocking options" for the sake of overclocking. You'll be choosing by price to performance ratio and price. Either you won't overclock soon then you can't afford to take overclockability into account or you go by the price to performance ratio when overclocked in that case you have to overclock to make the parts worthwhile. There are also no good CPU overclocking options right now. The only thing that is low budget is the Pentium G3258 and you absolutely have to overclock it, not just some day in the future but right after you build it or the whole build becomes pointless.

ATX isn't small form factor. mATX is cheaper.

Probably not much I can do for efficiency, you get what you pay for.

Does he have an ODD already?
Like Pheesh said, will any parts be reused?
475
#475
0 Frags +

I'm thinking overclocking will be out then.
I was thinking a 60 or 120 GB ssd in conjunction with an larger HDD.
He has Peripherals an OS already, but not an ODD or any internals or even a case.

I'll set the budget at 600 dollars

I'm thinking overclocking will be out then.
I was thinking a 60 or 120 GB ssd in conjunction with an larger HDD.
He has Peripherals an OS already, but not an ODD or any internals or even a case.

I'll set the budget at 600 dollars
476
#476
4 Frags +

Minimum without using shit-tier parts, don't expect more than 150fps.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Enermax ETS-T40-TB 86.7 CFM CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($22.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $456.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 15:22 EDT-0400

150fps on max, more on lower quality (gpu limited)
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($22.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $530.37
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 15:24 EDT-0400

200+fps
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($129.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($22.49 @ Newegg)
Total: $603.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 15:25 EDT-0400

Minimum without using shit-tier parts, don't expect more than 150fps.
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jBCCVn]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jBCCVn/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646g3258]Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($64.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-cpu-cooler-etst40tb]Enermax ETS-T40-TB 86.7 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3h]Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($49.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($54.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($62.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003662l]Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] ($89.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-mg100]Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430]Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($22.49 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $456.30
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 15:22 EDT-0400[/i]

150fps on max, more on lower quality (gpu limited)
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LJLp4D]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/LJLp4D/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54440]Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($173.95 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gab85mds3h]Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($49.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($54.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($62.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-1003662l]Sapphire Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card[/url] ($89.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-mg100]Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430]Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($22.49 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $530.37
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 15:24 EDT-0400[/i]

200+fps
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FpTFrH]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FpTFrH/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($187.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($68.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbsr]G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($54.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e120bam]Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($62.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($46.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvr927oc2gd]Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($129.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-mg100]Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430]Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($22.49 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $603.41
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 15:25 EDT-0400[/i]
477
#477
1 Frags +

Hi, kind of an odd one but my dad is considering building a pc. He doesn't actually play videogames but his job involves heavy video editing using premier pro and anything to speed up the process of editing and rendering long videos in 4k would help. I'm not specifically asking about individual parts as I don't know what his exact budget will end up being but is there anything I should specifically know that's specifically useful for video editing instead of games? I imagine it's of less importance that certain components (GPU, although rendering can be done on them) are high end but things like RAM become a lot more important.

Hi, kind of an odd one but my dad is considering building a pc. He doesn't actually play videogames but his job involves heavy video editing using premier pro and anything to speed up the process of editing and rendering long videos in 4k would help. I'm not specifically asking about individual parts as I don't know what his exact budget will end up being but is there anything I should specifically know that's specifically useful for video editing instead of games? I imagine it's of less importance that certain components (GPU, although rendering can be done on them) are high end but things like RAM become a lot more important.
478
#478
0 Frags +

Here is my pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TjxYBm
I got it for around 2200$ CAD from ncix (mostly)
edit: forgot my ssd

Here is my pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TjxYBm
I got it for around 2200$ CAD from ncix (mostly)
edit: forgot my ssd
479
#479
-1 Frags +
crithappenshttp://pcpartpicker.com/p/4NYT99

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Directron)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $896.79

I have about a $900-950 budget and would just like a second opinion on part selection. I do not play any intensive games, mostly just tf2, dota, skyrim so believe this is pretty decent for that.

If you are willing to over your budget by a tiny bit you will be able to get a GTX 970: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ntwsf7

This will provide you with much better gaming performance especially at 1080p.

[quote=crithappens]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4NYT99

[b]CPU:[/b] Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Directron)
[b]Memory:[/b] Crucial Ballistix 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Storage:[/b] A-Data Premier Pro SP600 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($54.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Video Card:[/b] Asus GeForce GTX 960 2GB Video Card ($209.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] Fractal Design Define Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX US)

Total: $896.79

I have about a $900-950 budget and would just like a second opinion on part selection. I do not play any intensive games, mostly just tf2, dota, skyrim so believe this is pretty decent for that.[/quote]

If you are willing to over your budget by a tiny bit you will be able to get a GTX 970: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ntwsf7

This will provide you with much better gaming performance especially at 1080p.
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spliitHere is my pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TjxYBm
I got it for around 2200$ CAD from ncix (mostly)
edit: forgot my ssd

High speed memory is doesn't effect game performance in any way, so you could save some money there. With that money I would invest in a better cooler for overclocking and silence. I also changed the power supply and used that saved money to upgrade your graphics card to a GTX 970. I did this as you want to make sure that you are able to saturate the 144Hz refresh rate of your monitor.

My changes: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7m4b6h

[quote=spliit]Here is my pc http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TjxYBm
I got it for around 2200$ CAD from ncix (mostly)
edit: forgot my ssd[/quote]

High speed memory is doesn't effect game performance in any way, so you could save some money there. With that money I would invest in a better cooler for overclocking and silence. I also changed the power supply and used that saved money to upgrade your graphics card to a GTX 970. I did this as you want to make sure that you are able to saturate the 144Hz refresh rate of your monitor.

My changes: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/7m4b6h
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