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PC Build Thread
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361
#361
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Okay so I went ahead and put together this semi-budget build. My intent was to only spend more than $100 on the CPU and GPU, which I did. Made sure it wall works together, PC Part Picker's only concern is if the 770 will fit in my HAF 912, but I think it should be fine.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($93.18 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-118BB DVD/CD Drive ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Amazon)
Case Fan: Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $835.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 16:58 EST-0500

Okay so I went ahead and put together this semi-budget build. My intent was to only spend more than $100 on the CPU and GPU, which I did. Made sure it wall works together, PC Part Picker's only concern is if the 770 will fit in my HAF 912, but I think it should be fine.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Kxbq7P]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Kxbq7P/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd4300wmhkbox]AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($93.18 @ Amazon)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Thermal Compound:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/arctic-silver-thermal-paste-as535g]Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste[/url] ($6.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/biostar-motherboard-ta970]Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz8gx3m2a1600c9r]Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($66.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-internal-hard-drive-sv300s37a120g]Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezrx]Western Digital WD Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($77.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/nvidia-video-card-900120052500000]NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card[/url] ($299.99 @ Best Buy)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc912kkn1]Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($53.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx600]Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($59.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh118bb]Samsung SH-118BB DVD/CD Drive[/url] ($19.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-fan-rfa120bl]Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan[/url] ($3.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-fan-rfa120bl]Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan[/url] ($3.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-fan-rfa120bl]Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan[/url] ($3.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-fan-rfa120bl]Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan[/url] ($3.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case Fan:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/rosewill-case-fan-rfa120bl]Rosewill RFA-120-BL 74.5 CFM 120mm Fan[/url] ($3.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Total:[/b] $835.00
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 16:58 EST-0500[/i]
362
#362
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ViperStrikerOkay so I went ahead and put together this semi-budget build. My intent was to only spend more than $100 on the CPU and GPU, which I did. Made sure it wall works together, PC Part Picker's only concern is if the 770 will fit in my HAF 912, but I think it should be fine.

You can do a LOT better than that for $800, a rig with that CPU is going to choke even in TF2
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.59 @ Directron)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($249.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $835.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 18:17 EST-0500

[quote=ViperStriker]Okay so I went ahead and put together this semi-budget build. My intent was to only spend more than $100 on the CPU and GPU, which I did. Made sure it wall works together, PC Part Picker's only concern is if the 770 will fit in my HAF 912, but I think it should be fine.[/quote]
You can do a LOT better than that for $800, a rig with that CPU is going to choke even in TF2
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KqVJRB]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KqVJRB/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690]Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($209.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($71.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-memory-ax3u1600c4g9dr]A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sdssdhp256gg25]Sandisk Ultra Plus 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($53.59 @ Directron)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn770oc2gd]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($249.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($49.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $835.51
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 18:17 EST-0500[/i]
363
#363
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Don't get me wrong but ... you don't actually know what you're doing, do you?

What's your budget?
What are you going to use it for?
Do you really need 2TB?

Assuming it's for TF2 and maybe some other games:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($71.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($62.44 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $816.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 18:18 EST-0500

Don't get me wrong but ... you don't actually know what you're doing, do you?

What's your budget?
What are you going to use it for?
Do you really need 2TB?

Assuming it's for TF2 and maybe some other games:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CzGKGX]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/CzGKGX/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($238.98 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($71.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-memory-ax3u1600c4g9dr]A-Data XPG V1.0 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct128mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($62.44 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($79.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r9280xtdbd]XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card[/url] ($219.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430m]Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($29.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/lite-on-optical-drive-ihas12414]Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($12.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $816.23
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-13 18:18 EST-0500[/i]
364
#364
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When it comes to making sure parts are compatible, I'm fine. As for what I put together, yes the CPU is lackluster, and the motherboard is a bit as well, but considering what I have now (AMD Athlon X2 220, 4 GB RAM, Galaxy GeForce GT520, 500GB HDD) it's a major upgrade.

When it comes to making sure parts are compatible, I'm fine. As for what I put together, yes the CPU is lackluster, and the motherboard is a bit as well, but considering what I have now (AMD Athlon X2 220, 4 GB RAM, Galaxy GeForce GT520, 500GB HDD) it's a major upgrade.
365
#365
3 Frags +

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.

It's near impossible to even get a slower CPU or GPU than what you currently have.

If you know the parts are bad why did you choose them?

Budget and intended usage help me a lot more than that kind of build. These are the only things I can't figure out for you. If you want proper advice you have to tell me what you want/need. A half-hearted part list attempt doesn't really tell me anything.

You don't have to defend your build.

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.

It's near impossible to even get a slower CPU or GPU than what you currently have.

If you know the parts are bad why did you choose them?

Budget and intended usage help me a lot more than that kind of build. These are the only things I can't figure out for you. If you want proper advice you have to tell me what you want/need. A half-hearted part list attempt doesn't really tell me anything.

You don't have to defend your build.
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#366
0 Frags +

Looking to upgrade some components of my current build, not sure where to start. Budget is 350 bucks.

Current build is :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A78M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($51.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($162.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Sandisk X110 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($56.87 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Vapor-X Video Card ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $652.82
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-25 06:26 EST-0500

Looking to upgrade some components of my current build, not sure where to start. Budget is 350 bucks.

Current build is :

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8KkHbv]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8KkHbv/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad560kwohjbox]AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($82.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fm2a78mhd]ASRock FM2A78M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard[/url] ($51.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-khx1600c9d3k28g]Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($162.00 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sandisk-internal-hard-drive-sd6sb1m064g1022i]Sandisk X110 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($56.87 @ OutletPC)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/sapphire-video-card-100364vxl]Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB Vapor-X Video Card[/url] ($168.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-power-supply-rs550amaag1]Cooler Master VSM 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $652.82
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-25 06:26 EST-0500[/i]
367
#367
3 Frags +

Is any game/application not running well enough? If not then you don't need to upgrade.

I mean just looking at the CPU I have no idea how much power you need. Anything from a 105-115$ upgrade with an 860K + 212 Evo/ETS-T40-TB to a 310$ E3-1231 v3 + mobo combo is within the budget.

Overclocking yes/no?
TF2 yes/no?
Other games yes/no? If yes, which games exactly? Target fps/quality?
Streaming yes/no?
Need more SSD/HDD space?

RAM and PSU are definitely fine, GPU depends a bit on the games, definitely fine for TF2 and not going to hold you back in any other games without a major CPU upgrade.
SSD and HDD are fine unless you need more space.
Mobo is fine unless you want to upgrade to a CPU that needs a different chipset or even a different socket.
Replacing the APU with a CPU would be the obvious choice for me, but it really depends on what you need.

Is any game/application not running well enough? If not then you don't [b]need[/b] to upgrade.

I mean just looking at the CPU I have no idea how much power you need. Anything from a 105-115$ upgrade with an [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad860kxbjabox]860K[/url] + [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2]212 Evo[/url]/[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-cpu-cooler-etst40tb]ETS-T40-TB[/url] to a 310$ [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646e31231v3]E3-1231 v3[/url] + [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]mobo[/url] combo is within the budget.

Overclocking yes/no?
TF2 yes/no?
Other games yes/no? If yes, which games exactly? Target fps/quality?
Streaming yes/no?
Need more SSD/HDD space?

RAM and PSU are definitely fine, GPU depends a bit on the games, definitely fine for TF2 and not going to hold you back in any other games without a major CPU upgrade.
SSD and HDD are fine unless you need more space.
Mobo is fine unless you want to upgrade to a CPU that needs a different chipset or even a different socket.
Replacing the APU with a CPU would be the obvious choice for me, but it really depends on what you need.
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#368
0 Frags +

It was made for TF2/CSGO but recently ive been trying to play some newer games like Advanced Warfare/BF4 and have been getting around 50 fps on lowest settings so its a bit rough. Dont need more SSD/HDD space, not planning on streaming and im not planning on OCing any time soon.

Also im planning on getting a 120hz monitor soon but i dont really have a constant over 120 fps on CSGO/TF2 so thats why im looking to upgrade some parts at the moment.

It was made for TF2/CSGO but recently ive been trying to play some newer games like Advanced Warfare/BF4 and have been getting around 50 fps on lowest settings so its a bit rough. Dont need more SSD/HDD space, not planning on streaming and im not planning on OCing any time soon.

Also im planning on getting a 120hz monitor soon but i dont really have a constant over 120 fps on CSGO/TF2 so thats why im looking to upgrade some parts at the moment.
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#369
0 Frags +

50fps on lowest settings in BF4? There is definitely something wrong. Are you using the 270X and not the integrated GPU?

>120fps with what config in CS:GO/TF2?

EDIT: What I mean is that 50fps on low settings sound just like the 5600K whereas 5600K + 270X should get you almost 50fps on ultra.

50fps on lowest settings in BF4? There is definitely something wrong. Are you using the 270X and not the integrated GPU?

>120fps with what config in CS:GO/TF2?

EDIT: What I mean is that 50fps on low settings sound just like the 5600K whereas 5600K + 270X should get you almost 50fps on ultra.
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#370
1 Frags +

really want to upgrade from where im at but at an extreme budget
i have 700-750 dollar budget, i cannot exceed 750, i need to keep it as close to 700 as possible
i really want to use the i5-4660 @ 3.2 ghz and the nvidia 750 ti
dont care what else the other parts are, just really want something possible within the budget left with these two parts, although i dont mind the cheaper equivelants to these parts as anything is still an upgrade from what ive got
if someone new of a decent prebuild computer in this price range that they could reccomend that would be pretty awesome too as im not good at this building pc thing.

ive been looking at the intel b85 from ibp @ 649 but i need to buy windows for 100, so, not so sure about it

also really into post 359

also this is like a retarded question that i should probably just google but what do i need for a desktop to pick up wifi, assuming its some sort of part :P

really want to upgrade from where im at but at an extreme budget
i have 700-750 dollar budget, i cannot exceed 750, i need to keep it as close to 700 as possible
i really want to use the i5-4660 @ 3.2 ghz and the nvidia 750 ti
dont care what else the other parts are, just really want something possible within the budget left with these two parts, although i dont mind the cheaper equivelants to these parts as anything is still an upgrade from what ive got
if someone new of a decent prebuild computer in this price range that they could reccomend that would be pretty awesome too as im not good at this building pc thing.

ive been looking at the intel b85 from ibp @ 649 but i need to buy windows for 100, so, not so sure about it

also really into post 359

also this is like a retarded question that i should probably just google but what do i need for a desktop to pick up wifi, assuming its some sort of part :P
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#371
-1 Frags +

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hrv2ZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hrv2ZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($141.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($132.00 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 4GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1634.89

I plan on doing adding another video card eventually, the thing im skeptical on is the ram

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hrv2ZL
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Hrv2ZL/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK2 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($170.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston HyperX 3K 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($141.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($132.00 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 760 4GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($269.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1634.89

I plan on doing adding another video card eventually, the thing im skeptical on is the ram
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#372
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Setsul50fps on lowest settings in BF4? There is definitely something wrong. Are you using the 270X and not the integrated GPU?

>120fps with what config in CS:GO/TF2?

EDIT: What I mean is that 50fps on low settings sound just like the 5600K whereas 5600K + 270X should get you almost 50fps on ultra.

Yeah using the 270x.

Using Max frames on tf2 and got everything on low in cs besides global shadow quality set to high and 2x MMSA. usually getting about 90-150 fps in both games.

[quote=Setsul]50fps on lowest settings in BF4? There is definitely something wrong. Are you using the 270X and not the integrated GPU?

>120fps with what config in CS:GO/TF2?

EDIT: What I mean is that 50fps on low settings sound just like the 5600K whereas 5600K + 270X should get you almost 50fps on ultra.[/quote]

Yeah using the 270x.

Using Max frames on tf2 and got everything on low in cs besides global shadow quality set to high and 2x MMSA. usually getting about 90-150 fps in both games.
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#373
1 Frags +
zeenYeah using the 270x.

Using Max frames on tf2 and got everything on low in cs besides global shadow quality set to high and 2x MMSA. usually getting about 90-150 fps in both games.

yeah something isnt right

i would try to get athat figured out before you decide to upgrade

sorry i dont really have any ideas though

[quote=zeen]
Yeah using the 270x.

Using Max frames on tf2 and got everything on low in cs besides global shadow quality set to high and 2x MMSA. usually getting about 90-150 fps in both games.[/quote]

yeah something isnt right

i would try to get athat figured out before you decide to upgrade

sorry i dont really have any ideas though
374
#374
0 Frags +

My setup right now is:

i7-2600k @ 3.7 GHz
4x2 DDR3 @ 668 MHz (9-9-9-24)
GTX570

Lately my computer has been running pretty hot (75+ C). If my goal is to run CSGO above 280 frames (just got 144 Hz monitor, TF2 seems to be mostly okay) is there anything I should be upgrading or can I accomplish this by getting a cooler and overclocking? I'm already getting ~180 but with a lot of drops and a decent bit of stuttering.

My setup right now is:

i7-2600k @ 3.7 GHz
4x2 DDR3 @ 668 MHz (9-9-9-24)
GTX570

Lately my computer has been running pretty hot (75+ C). If my goal is to run CSGO above 280 frames (just got 144 Hz monitor, TF2 seems to be mostly okay) is there anything I should be upgrading or can I accomplish this by getting a cooler and overclocking? I'm already getting ~180 but with a lot of drops and a decent bit of stuttering.
375
#375
0 Frags +

Any ideas what it could be? I'm not entirely sure whats wrong but id like to get it fixed before i decide to upgrade.

Any ideas what it could be? I'm not entirely sure whats wrong but id like to get it fixed before i decide to upgrade.
376
#376
7 Frags +

Sorry guys, didn't have internet for a few days.

#370
Why the i5-4460 and 750 Ti? You can definitely get better parts with that budget.

I don't really know any good pre-builts, there's enough options to get it built if you think that you absolutely can't build it yourself or just don't have the time. Watch a good build video (e.g. LinusTechTips) and keep it open while building and you really shouldn't run into any problems. Even if you do, just ask someone instead of forcing anything and it's virtually impossible to break anything.

I looked the build in #359 up again and got a heart attack because apparently it's the spawn of satan, it's at 666.66$ right now.
I fixed that and added Windows.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $696.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-29 14:15 EST-0500

There are some motherboards with wifi, usually you'd get a wifi card or stick though. I don't what standard your router is using (802.11 a, b, g, n or ac) so I can't really recommend anything. You should be able to get a decent one for <20$. It's also not ideal for online games, if there's any way you could run a cable do so. There's also Powerline Ethernet.

#371
The only thing I'm not skeptical about is the ODD.

Brief list of what went through my head:
4790K, nice.
All-in-one liquid cooler, WHYYYYYYYYY?!
WTF?!
It's Corsair so it's probably not for rendering, don't need 16GB then.
What? Why?
What the fuck is that HDD?
A 760? Really? With that budget? Oh wait, he didn't even specify a budget.
Oh come on.
Dat overkill. Does he want to go SLI? At least it's a very good PSU.
Decent ODD.
FUCKING 760 SLI I KNEW IT!

Tell me what you want to do with that build.
What is your budget?
Here's a better one for 200$ less, I can adjust it to make it cheaper or put even more POWER in there.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.88 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BL 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($125.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($63.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($77.75 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($359.98 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1401.26
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-29 15:17 EST-0500

#372
This thread isn't the ideal way to troubleshoot.
You can add me if you want to, it's faster and easier for me that way.

#374
I'm assuming that's the CPU temperature. If so a cooler should help. Are you using the stock cooler? You also need to check what maximum CPU cooler height your case allows. If you don't plan on doing anything crazy in terms of overclocking the Enermax ETS-T40-TB should be a good choice.

At what settings are you running CS:GO? I'm hoping it's your GPU bottlenecking because there's no way you'll get >50% more fps by overclocking your CPU. Getting a cooler is still a good idea, a slight overclock and lower temperatures are always a good thing.

Sorry guys, didn't have internet for a few days.

#370
Why the i5-4460 and 750 Ti? You can definitely get better parts with that budget.

I don't really know any good pre-builts, there's enough options to get it built if you think that you absolutely can't build it yourself or just don't have the time. Watch a good build video (e.g. LinusTechTips) and keep it open while building and you really shouldn't run into any problems. Even if you do, just ask someone instead of forcing anything and it's virtually impossible to break anything.

I looked the build in #359 up again and got a heart attack because apparently it's the spawn of satan, it's at 666.66$ right now.
I fixed that and added Windows.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mrZDf7]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mrZDf7/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670]Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($209.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-b85mpro4]ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($65.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997052]Mushkin Redline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory[/url] ($63.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr9270x2gbd5a2dhe]PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-885370635690]Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $696.67
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-29 14:15 EST-0500[/i]

There are some motherboards with wifi, usually you'd get a wifi card or stick though. I don't what standard your router is using (802.11 a, b, g, n or ac) so I can't really recommend anything. You should be able to get a decent one for <20$. It's also not ideal for online games, if there's any way you could run a cable do so. There's also Powerline Ethernet.


#371
The only thing I'm [b]not[/b] skeptical about is the ODD.

Brief list of what went through my head:
4790K, nice.
All-in-one liquid cooler, WHYYYYYYYYY?!
WTF?!
It's Corsair so it's probably not for rendering, don't need 16GB then.
What? Why?
What the fuck is that HDD?
A 760? Really? With that budget? Oh wait, he didn't even specify a budget.
Oh come on.
Dat overkill. Does he want to go SLI? At least it's a very good PSU.
Decent ODD.
FUCKING 760 SLI I KNEW IT!


Tell me what you want to do with that build.
What is your budget?
Here's a better one for 200$ less, I can adjust it to make it cheaper or put even more POWER in there.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PZgHbv]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PZgHbv/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74790k]Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($319.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-cpu-cooler-phtc14pebl]Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BL 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extreme4]ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($125.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/mushkin-memory-997092f]Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory[/url] ($63.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct256mx100ssd1]Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($104.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm001]Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($77.75 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-video-card-gvn970g1gaming4gd]Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card[/url] ($359.98 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bkw]Fractal Design Define R5 ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g10750xr]EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($59.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-optical-drive-drw24b1stblkbas]Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($18.75 @ OutletPC)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-885370635690]Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $1401.26
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-29 15:17 EST-0500[/i]


#372
This thread isn't the ideal way to troubleshoot.
You can add me if you want to, it's faster and easier for me that way.


#374
I'm assuming that's the CPU temperature. If so a cooler should help. Are you using the stock cooler? You also need to check what maximum CPU cooler height your case allows. If you don't plan on doing anything crazy in terms of overclocking the [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/enermax-cpu-cooler-etst40tb]Enermax ETS-T40-TB[/url] should be a good choice.

At what settings are you running CS:GO? I'm hoping it's your GPU bottlenecking because there's no way you'll get >50% more fps by overclocking your CPU. Getting a cooler is still a good idea, a slight overclock and lower temperatures are always a good thing.
377
#377
0 Frags +

@Setsul:

1920*1080 with everything turned as low as possible.

@Setsul:

1920*1080 with everything turned as low as possible.
378
#378
4 Frags +

It's a bit strange then. at 75°C the CPU shouldn't be throttling but you never know.
Like I said before this thread isn't the place for troubleshooting.
Look up how to check for CPU throttling and other reasons for low fps in CS:GO and/or add me if you can't fix it.

Overclocking is still a good idea if your motherboard supports it.

It's a bit strange then. at 75°C the CPU shouldn't be throttling but you never know.
Like I said before this thread isn't the place for troubleshooting.
Look up how to check for CPU throttling and other reasons for low fps in CS:GO and/or add me if you can't fix it.

Overclocking is still a good idea if your motherboard supports it.
379
#379
0 Frags +

How much more better would an i5 @3.1ghz run in TF2 compared to an i3 @3.5 ghz?

I'm looking at the prices right now and the i5 costs about $50 more than the i3, are the benefits of the quad core worth the extra cost? I'm a student and my overall build budget is around $650 including the operating system.

How much more better would an i5 @3.1ghz run in TF2 compared to an i3 @3.5 ghz?

I'm looking at the prices right now and the i5 costs about $50 more than the i3, are the benefits of the quad core worth the extra cost? I'm a student and my overall build budget is around $650 including the operating system.
380
#380
4 Frags +

Which i5 and which i3. What's the rest of the build?

Which i5 and which i3. What's the rest of the build?
381
#381
0 Frags +
SetsulWhich i5 and which i3. What's the rest of the build?

i5-4440 @ 3.1GHz
i3-4150 @ 3.5GHz

Here's the build I plan on using with whatever CPU I end up purchasing

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Biostar B85MG Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.49 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270 2GB '14Series Video Card ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Edimax EW-7811Un 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($6.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $684.39
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-11 20:21 EST-0500

[quote=Setsul]Which i5 and which i3. What's the rest of the build?[/quote]

i5-4440 @ 3.1GHz
i3-4150 @ 3.5GHz

Here's the build I plan on using with whatever CPU I end up purchasing

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XvQZHx]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XvQZHx/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54440]Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/biostar-motherboard-b85mg]Biostar B85MG Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($44.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c9s8gxm]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($66.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/hitachi-internal-hard-drive-hde721010sla330]Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($48.49 @ Amazon)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/club-3d-video-card-cgaxr927614]Club 3D Radeon R9 270 2GB '14Series Video Card[/url] ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($42.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seasonic-power-supply-m12ii620bronze]SeaSonic 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($54.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($13.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700404]Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($99.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Wireless Network Adapter:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/edimax-wireless-network-card-ew7811un]Edimax EW-7811Un 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter[/url] ($6.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $684.39
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-11 20:21 EST-0500[/i]
382
#382
5 Frags +

It's complicated.
i5 does have a lot more power, the problem is usually you'll be held back by the slowest thread. That means as long as the i3 can cope with the total load since it's cores are faster (3.5GHz vs 3.3GHz max turbo on the i5) the i5 might not actually beat it.

My recommendation depends on wether or not you'll play any other games and if you're willing to drop down the case and PSU a bit.
Just FYI while 620W is overkill you won't even get a 400W PSU of the same quality for 55$, that's insanely cheap for the M12II.

For TF2 only I'd say get this (you can use the case and PSU you selected, they're better, just more expensive):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R7 260 1GB Video Card ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Wireless Network Adapter: Edimax EW-7811Un 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter ($6.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $616.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 05:56 EST-0500

If you want to play other games aswell you can up the GPU a bit. If you're not in a hurry wait for deals or until you can up your budget by 50$ or play TF2 with integrated graphics for while and then get a 270X or even a 280. Only worth it if you want/"need" 1080p+60fps+max quality in current games.

It's complicated.
i5 does have a lot more power, the problem is usually you'll be held back by the slowest thread. That means as long as the i3 can cope with the total load since it's cores are faster (3.5GHz vs 3.3GHz max turbo on the i5) the i5 might not actually beat it.

My recommendation depends on wether or not you'll play any other games and if you're willing to drop down the case and PSU a bit.
Just FYI while 620W is overkill you won't even get a 400W PSU of the same quality for 55$, that's insanely cheap for the M12II.

For TF2 only I'd say get this (you can use the case and PSU you selected, they're better, just more expensive):
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34PnCJ]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34PnCJ/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($185.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/pareema-memory-md316c81609l2]Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($67.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-r72601gd5oc]MSI Radeon R7 260 1GB Video Card[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike]Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($29.99 @ Mwave)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10500kr]EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($13.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-wn700615]Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)[/url] ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Wireless Network Adapter:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/edimax-wireless-network-card-ew7811un]Edimax EW-7811Un 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter[/url] ($6.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $616.66
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-12 05:56 EST-0500[/i]

If you want to play other games aswell you can up the GPU a bit. If you're not in a hurry wait for deals or until you can up your budget by 50$ or play TF2 with integrated graphics for while and then get a 270X or even a 280. Only worth it if you want/"need" 1080p+60fps+max quality in current games.
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#383
4 Frags +

Going to use the turbo function on the i5 to overclock to 3.9 GHz, probably in the future buy a better cooling system to mess with overclocking more. Trying to future proof as much as possible. Opinions/suggestions?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.66 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($344.00 @ NCIX US)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $846.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-17 02:53 EST-0500

Going to use the turbo function on the i5 to overclock to 3.9 GHz, probably in the future buy a better cooling system to mess with overclocking more. Trying to future proof as much as possible. Opinions/suggestions?

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N84YhM]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/N84YhM/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k]Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($219.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97anniversary]ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($85.66 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f31600c8d8gab]G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($69.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g]MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card[/url] ($344.00 @ NCIX US)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614pbk]Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case[/url] ($99.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $846.50
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-17 02:53 EST-0500[/i]
384
#384
2 Frags +

And we have a winner, that's a pretty good build.
There is no such thing as future proofing though. The most cost effective way is to buy exactly as much power and features as you need.
Also you didn't specify a budget.

There's not much you could do besides some cosmetic changes. Most of them are literally cosmetic.
RAM: Instead of 1600Mhz CL8 in blue you could get 1600Mhz CL9 (slightly slower) in blue (-2$) or red (-6$) or 1866MHz CL9 (slightly faster) in red (-5$) or 2133MHz CL10 (a bit faster again) in gold (+1$).

You could go microATX (-66.68$).
microATX complete blue colour scheme (minimal performance sacrifice) for 12$ less.
Taking that build and swapping the i5-4690K for a Xeon E3-1231 v3 costs 15.11$ more. Not overclocked the i5 is only 3% faster in single threaded applications and even overclocked it can't beat the Xeon in multi threaded. So in other words, single threaded the i5 beats it barely and is cheaper, overclocked it beats it convincingly but at a higher price. Multi-threaded the Xeon wins against non-OC by a wide margin while being only slightly more expensive and while the gap is smaller against OC it would still win and be cheaper.

The original GPU (+6.01$) and red colour scheme would add 12.92$ to the Xeon build.

Short summary:
Original: 846.50$
microATX: 779.82$
mATX blue: 767.82$ (slightly slower RAM and GPU)
Xeon mATX blue: 782.93$ (slightly slower RAM and GPU)
Xeon mATX red: 795.85$ (slightly slower RAM)

And now my personal favourite.
Only works if you're willing the go through flashing-the-BIOS-without-a-CPU process.
Same performance except for the RAM and it's the second cheapest build:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card ($347.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $778.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-17 07:39 EST-0500

And we have a winner, that's a pretty good build.
There is no such thing as future proofing though. The most cost effective way is to buy exactly as much power and features as you need.
Also you didn't specify a budget.

There's not much you could do besides some cosmetic changes. Most of them are literally cosmetic.
RAM: Instead of 1600Mhz CL8 in blue you could get 1600Mhz CL9 (slightly slower) in [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tzbd38g1600hc9dc01]blue (-2$)[/url] or [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbxl]red (-6$)[/url] or [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f314900cl9d8gbxl]1866MHz CL9 (slightly faster) in red (-5$)[/url] or [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tlyd38g2133hc10qdc01]2133MHz CL10 (a bit faster again) in gold (+1$)[/url].

You could go [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tBt9Bm]microATX (-66.68$)[/url].
microATX complete blue colour scheme (minimal performance sacrifice) for [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/MXrRRB]12$ less[/url].
Taking that build and swapping the i5-4690K for a Xeon E3-1231 v3 costs [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/tQWz99]15.11$ more[/url]. Not overclocked the i5 is only 3% faster in single threaded applications and even overclocked it can't beat the Xeon in multi threaded. So in other words, single threaded the i5 beats it barely and is cheaper, overclocked it beats it convincingly but at a higher price. Multi-threaded the Xeon wins against non-OC by a wide margin while being only slightly more expensive and while the gap is smaller against OC it would still win and be cheaper.

The original GPU (+6.01$) and red colour scheme would add [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2gytsY]12.92$ to the Xeon build[/url].

Short summary:
Original: 846.50$
microATX: 779.82$
mATX blue: 767.82$ (slightly slower RAM and GPU)
Xeon mATX blue: 782.93$ (slightly slower RAM and GPU)
Xeon mATX red: 795.85$ (slightly slower RAM)

And now my personal favourite.
Only works if you're willing the go through flashing-the-BIOS-without-a-CPU process.
Same performance except for the RAM and it's the second cheapest build:
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qzwy99]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qzwy99/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54690k]Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($219.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-motherboard-z87mgaming]MSI Z87M GAMING Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($79.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($63.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-gtx970gaming4g]MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GB Twin Frozr V Video Card[/url] ($347.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1]Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case[/url] ($39.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Total:[/b] $778.83
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-17 07:39 EST-0500[/i]
385
#385
1 Frags +

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
Memory: Team Zeus Yellow 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: DIYPC M88-BK MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
Total: $444.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-18 11:54 EST-0500

will it run 144?

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GjGpWZ]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GjGpWZ/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-ad860kxbjabox]AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fm2a88mhd]ASRock FM2A88M-HD+ Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard[/url] ($44.99 @ Micro Center)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/team-memory-tzyd38g1600hc9dc01]Team Zeus Yellow 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($69.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-video-card-r7265acnj4]XFX Radeon R7 265 2GB Video Card[/url] ($149.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/diypc-case-m88bk]DIYPC M88-BK MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($24.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430]Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply[/url] ($34.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Total:[/b] $444.71
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-18 11:54 EST-0500[/i]

will it run 144?
386
#386
0 Frags +

Anyone in here running 4k?

Anyone in here running 4k?
387
#387
2 Frags +

Here are the builds I made for #385
Improved 860K
The G3258 is better though so i made one aswell.

After talking to him on steam I decided that a bit more CPU power wouldn't hurt since he wanted to get a 144Hz monitor and wasn't a problem in terms of the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($186.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($275.34 @ PCM)
Total: $846.02
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-18 13:19 EST-0500

#386
No, sorry. 5760*1080 is where it's at.

Here are the builds I made for #385
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qr76Lk]Improved 860K[/url]
[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yYTjhM]The G3258 is better[/url] though so i made one aswell.

After talking to him on steam I decided that a bit more CPU power wouldn't hurt since he wanted to get a 144Hz monitor and wasn't a problem in terms of the budget.

[url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JZJND3]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JZJND3/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54590]Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($186.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-h97manniversary]ASRock H97M Anniversary Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f312800cl9d8gbxl]G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory[/url] ($63.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003]Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.88 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92702gbd5tdheoc]PowerColor Radeon R9 270 2GB TurboDuo Video Card[/url] ($131.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-mg100]Cougar MG100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($28.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cs450m]Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($26.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Optical Drive:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe]Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer[/url] ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2411z]BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor[/url] ($275.34 @ PCM)
[b]Total:[/b] $846.02
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-01-18 13:19 EST-0500[/i]

#386
No, sorry. 5760*1080 is where it's at.
388
#388
0 Frags +

Here my pc, gonna update it soon :

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/840697DSC0220.jpg

Case:
Cooler Master CM-690 II Advanced
Motherboard :
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X58A-UD3R x.x
Processeur :
Intel Core i7 950
Radiateur :
Idk
Carte Graphique :
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3X
RAM :
OCZ DDR3 3 x 2 Go PC12800
Hard drive :
SAMSUNGHD103SJ de 931.51 Go SATA II
ST2000DM001-9YN164 de 1.82 To SATA III
SSD :
ROG RAIDR Express - 240 Go
Monitor :
Samsung SynsMaster 2233 22 pouces 120Hz
AOC 24 G-Sync 24 pouces 144Hz
Mouse :
Roccat kone[+]
Keyboard :
Logitech Orion Spark G910
Mousepad :
J'en est plein, mais je suis allergique ...
Casque :
Steelseries Siberia V2 Black & Gold

Here my pc, gonna update it soon :

[img]http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/840697DSC0220.jpg[/img]

Case:
Cooler Master CM-690 II Advanced
Motherboard :
Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X58A-UD3R x.x
Processeur :
Intel Core i7 950
Radiateur :
Idk
Carte Graphique :
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 WindForce 3X
RAM :
OCZ DDR3 3 x 2 Go PC12800
Hard drive :
SAMSUNGHD103SJ de 931.51 Go SATA II
ST2000DM001-9YN164 de 1.82 To SATA III
SSD :
ROG RAIDR Express - 240 Go
Monitor :
Samsung SynsMaster 2233 22 pouces 120Hz
AOC 24 G-Sync 24 pouces 144Hz
Mouse :
Roccat kone[+]
Keyboard :
Logitech Orion Spark G910
Mousepad :
J'en est plein, mais je suis allergique ...
Casque :
Steelseries Siberia V2 Black & Gold
389
#389
2 Frags +
MR_SLINIn an effort to condense the number of PC build threads out there and to give people a place to view many TF2 players' PC builds at once, I'd like to suggest that people post in this stickied thread.

Feel free to post your personal build here (and edit your post as you upgrade) either by linking the parts individually or by linking something from a website like www.pcpartpicker.com. It helps if you post the approximate cost of your build as well.

Partlist?

[quote=MR_SLIN]In an effort to condense the number of PC build threads out there and to give people a place to view many TF2 players' PC builds at once, I'd like to suggest that people post in this stickied thread.

Feel free to post your personal build here (and edit your post as you upgrade) either by linking the parts individually or by linking something from a website like www.pcpartpicker.com. It helps if you post the approximate cost of your build as well.[/quote]
Partlist?
390
#390
1 Frags +

I'm gonna list for the next pc, I swear it !
ok ok, i edit last post ^^"

I'm gonna list for the next pc, I swear it !
ok ok, i edit last post ^^"
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