Here's a test demo for you, whayay. Starts around wave 4/6 and lasts awhile. The only thing it doesn't show is sapper and med shield recharge bars.

EDIT: Wow I'm silly and didn't link it, here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/smsauy0vtajj79s/mvmtest.dem

Hey, is it just me or with the new flhud can you not see a medic's uber percentage as a Spy with the disguise kit? Also, can the scrollwheel weapon switch weapon showing be available as an option? I don't like being unable to see the weapon I'm switching to. I think you made this change within the past few days but I can't find the exact commit.

Also it appears that the tournament mode ready up symbols on the top aren't actually center aligned to the circle. I think the X is off by 3 or 4 pixels to the left. Might just be my resolution, 1600x900.

The placement of the KOTH timers is much better now, but maybe this is just me being upset that I have to remake my leaderboard for this new version, but I'd kinda like there to be some possible way for me to regain the old KOTH timers from the old FLV version. Which file has them in it, and would it be possible to make some kind of hybrid? Or maybe I could completely use the old spec HUD, since other things like advspec don't look right with the new one.

whayayyttrium...Could you explain the bug? I can't find any issues when I equip my sapper.

In the loadout menu, while you can left click and drag the player model to rotate, you can also right click and drag to zoom in/out and middle click and drag to reposition. Something tells me that isn't intended.

whayay* no2: Do you mean the class selection menu? Or the actual loadout menu where you swap out your presets?

Loadout. I mean circles behind items rather than the current rectangle, at least on the main loadout page and not the backpack selection.

whayay* no3: I like your suggestions, but I think the spy menu is fine to be honest. I don't find the numbers to be particularly small.

It's up to you in the end. Maybe I just need to play more with it.

whayay* no4: I've been thinking about doing icons, especially for the class selection and I made some in FontForge (which is a pain).
I will definitely consider adding in icons if you make some, but they would probably have to be in font form, so that I can also use the for the class selection. I am still undecided on this whole thing.

Not quite sure how to translate my vectors into physical icons, so I'm not sure how reliable I'd be for that. I could make bitmaps though.

whayay* no5: I had to move the KOTH timers, since they were clipping with the new winpanel. I'm not sure what you mean with the standard round timer, could you clarify?

By standard round timer I mean the single timer that appears in modes like 5CP. How does the KOTH timer clip with the new win panel? The _only_ thing that should be at the top of the screen there is the timer.

Also I found a bug. Hello pretty sapper. :3
http://puu.sh/8Bk5t.png

GentlemanJonSticky!
I should point out the intended use is for casters so they don't miss it and say "Oh, Kritz!" after 4 players are killed by the first sticky, and they can give the big kritz pop it's proper build up so the need for formatting niceties wasn't really a design consideration beyond the ability to make it bright green roughly in the middle of the screen.

Also, forum sticky \o/

Sticky woohoo!

I just wish a few aspects could be customized:

• Duration, it only appears for what, two seconds? It needs to be like 6 so I don't miss it in case I was paying attention to something else.
  
• Font size! For some reason, maybe it's just my resolution but it looks tiny to me. Very easy to miss.

As for feedback on flvhud:

• Adore the spectator UI. The soft circles remind me of Google's Holo Card design style.
  
• Why not use those same circles for the backdrop for class loadouts? As it is, the current loadout screen feels like it's going for a hackeresque minimalist approach merged with something modern. Could definitely use a touchup and I think that might do it.
  
• The numbers in the spy menu are far too small. I think increasing the size of the circles and numbers would drastically help. It might even be cool to have the bottom of the circle protrude from the white background, like so: http://puu.sh/8BfmI.png (open this in an image editor or use Firefox, since it has a transparent background)
  
• Speaking of which, having class icons instead of portraits on the disguise menu might help clean it up, too, especially if they were flat. I could come up with a nice set of themed icons if you'd like.
  
• I feel like the round timers should still be center aligned. In order to be optimal for my current spectating layout/scoreboard/overlay, it would be best for the koth timers to be exactly as they used to be on flv, and for the standard round timer to fill the same region as the two koth timers, with a bunch of extra gray space to the left and right to make up for it. How easy would this be to implement?

blueeAs a small note to other HUD makers that want a custom style, this was done as a one-off for TotH; the lack of updates from me has been because I'm trying to find a way to avoid adding more crap to this file.

I'm not a C++ dev but I know a fair bit of C. Looking at that, wouldn't it be simple to literally just scrap the entire damned thing for only one draw method and then just have properties of it be filled in via parameters, which could be defined by configs/commands/cvars? I mean, it would be quite a refactor, but wouldn't it be better in the end?

Also dear god is the flvhud advspec version horrendous. I mean, it looks great and I'm really glad it's there. I don't at all mean your work isn't appreciated; seriously, good going dude. For what it was meant to do, it functions fantastically. But not only is your warning about it not scaling well for other HUDs important... It doesn't scale for anything outside of the original setup. If TF2's resolution isn't 1080p, not only does it not scale with the rest of the UI correctly, but even the goddamn offset cvars are off. For example, I'm at 1600x900. When I set advspec_medic_info_offset_y 17, it actually offsets by about 25 pixels. I guess I'll just use it in the bottom left of the screen rather than try to integrate it with my player list.

MasterKuniEngineer repair node was removed from final game because it made buildings too difficult to destroy and slowed the game down, but they still added the wrangler?

Keep in mind that repair nodes could stack over allied buildings and multiple repair nodes could repair each other. Also, an engineer didn't have to stand by his buildings in order for them to heal, like he practically has to do in combination with the Wrangler. Also also, the Wrangler only applies to his sentry, and not all buildings at once.

Additionally, it actually was intended to replace the Dispenser or Teleporter. The real reason this was removed (besides being imbalanced) isn't actually mentioned in the video, and it reeks (in a good way) of Valve playtesting. They felt that replacing the dispenser or teleporter (the two most important buildings) with a building that literally only aided allied Engie buildings was incredibly selfish of the Engies involved, and led the rest of their team to not view them as team players (not having a dispenser for ammo or teleporters to get to the field faster is a death sentence in most cases).

Made a video showcasing AdvSpec and my leaderboard, but mostly showcasing SpecTools. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO24V0xwP1c

DougyttriumMaybe even show a notification for when a player has left spawn as a new class.Holy shit, that would be fabulous. Is it possible to show a notification when this or a medic with kritz happen?

SpecTools actually notifies you of medigun changes already, but it's very rudimentary. It was added in the latest update, and can't be customized too much. It's basically a text popup and you can tell where it should appear (mostly; you can't center it so you have to guess and based on the name it gets misaligned) but you can't change the text size or type or anything like that. If Suyo manages to make his own spec UI, he could easily add a pretty notification that appears next to the Medic that shows an arrow saying "Kritz" or "Medigun" or "Quick-Fix" or "Vacc" or something. Also for debug purposes please Jon and Suyo implement a console command to send a fake medigun change so the notification is triggered, for setup purposes.

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Fuck it, I'm just going to make a whole video showing off SpecTools and our setup. Would be great for people to see it in action and would be great for people to see how other casters have things like their leaderboard set up.

Suyohoolican you perhaps make this plugin emulate the tf2 spectator hud so we can just get rid of the tf2 spec hud?
I'm trying that with the AdvSpec source code right now - all that's left is class icons, finding a better way to get the CTFPlayerResource entity, and a solution to deal with the order of players changing when offclassing (in that screenshot, the only class being sorted into a fixed position is Medic)

EDIT: An idea for sorting I had would be to make it a command, which would sort the players on execution and save their entities, so it wouldn't shuffle around. Downside is that casters need another bind to do that sort. How does that sound?

First off I just want to say this is fucking ridiculous that an unsigned plugin has to be written that will only work in insecure mode just to fix HUD bugs for a game like this. Seriously Valve, step it up, you're almost getting as bad as Bethesda, where the community fixes more issues than you do.

Anyway, back to you; fantastic work, seriously. It looks great. Do you think you can make the plugin load our current HUD files and make it look like our old HUD did, or would that be too much effort? If not, could we customize it with commands similar to SpecTools?

As for alignment, why not have an alignment key that casters can press to re-align classes if something gets messed up, but just force an alignment right as the match starts, in Scout Scout Soldier Soldier Demo Medic order, and then from then on (unless the command is used), just keep it aligned by the previous order? So if a scout switched to sniper, it'll go Sniper Scout Soldier... or Scout Sniper Soldier depending on who did it. That way everything is consistent. Maybe even show a notification for when a player has left spawn as a new class.

ArrIndeed, it does. You can check parts of the plugin used in the latest tf.tv cast.
Here's how we got it set up at the moment:
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Notice the custom overlay I made for the team health in the left center.

Pretty much every element is toggleable using key binds, including the minimap, health bars, names, etc.

Really like the clean left-aligned look to it. Nice integration of the team HP too, and I absolutely love your bottom left team lineup. Do the icons mean cast/chat/cam, from top to bottom?

Just to compare, here's how we have it set up at the moment:

http://puu.sh/8zUs9.jpg

Our leaderboard is done with a program called StreamControl. I can easily edit any of those text fields or flags with just a few clicks and they'll be seamlessly faded in and out as soon as I hit save.
The bars above and below the players are the team health bars, added in the latest update. In this picture you can also see the circle on the incoming sticky. I also have the minimap appear in the bottom right corner, but this image was taken on Coal Plant, which isn't yet supported by the minimap so I just turned it off; looking at Granary isn't great.

Finally I've also got an extensive list of custom keybinds for instant player switching, basically here's the setup for 6s:
1 Scout, 2 Scout, 3 Soldier, 4 Soldier, 5 Demo, 6 Medic, 7 Sniper, 8 Heavy, 9 Pyro, 0 Engie, - Spy
Those binds switch to the Blu team. Function keys are for Red (F10 for Engie, F11 for Spy).

You can also load configs on the go with Num9 being Highlander, Num6 being 6s, and Num3 being 4s. NumPlus toggles minimap visibility. Each format config has different settings for everything; for example, the Highlander config is far more aggressive with fading than the 6s and 4s configs are. Also, in 4s, player names are shown. Minimap icon sizes also change based on format. There's also Num0 for pausing/unpausing an STV demo, Num1 for opening the demoui, and Num2 for hud_reloadscheme (dastardly pauses!).

If anybody wants help getting a setup like this, feel free to PM me.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to share the part I spent literal days on! You can also hold Shift and it hides all health bars, and then press one of the class keys to selectively enable them. Combinations work (you can hold down Shift, 1, and 5 to see all scout and demo health bars) and they temporarily disable damage blinking for better clarity. This was actually a major pain to get working cleanly; all simple setups for it caused misalignments when releasing certain keys and not others.

Luc (RdRand) and I have been using our own configs that I wrote on Monday since we started casting on Monday. Basically it binds 1-0 and F1-11 for class assignments, and has three variants you can access by hitting the 9, 6, and 3 on your numpad, for HL, 6s, and 4s, respectively. The class positions according to number change based on the layout - for instance, in 6s, 1 and 2 are the first and second scouts, 3 and 4 are the first and second soldiers, 5 is the demo, and 6 is the medic. 7-0 are reserved for off-classes. Normal numbers are Blu, and F numbers are Red.

Tonight I'm going to modify the configs so that you can hold Ctrl (or maybe Shift or Tilde?) in order to force all health viewing to that class rather than switching to the view of the class. After I successfully get that working, I'll upload the configs for you all to enjoy. They also have different fade distances for the different formats (fading is going to happen a lot faster for Highlander, for instance) and a few other neat tweaks. Also, I'll be sure that health filters will remove fading completely (at least for some classes) so that you can always view the health bar, since you're intentionally focusing on that one class.