ofc not, but tf2 got released in 2007 and there were no things like matchmaking back then in any game, even old cs had no matchmaking. Valve said many times they're not planning to make tf2 an esport game. Tf2 isn't serious comp game but it's fun to play and it's most important. I don't have problem with this until I have fun.
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#68
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ikinclark561it sucks how difficult it is to play a game of sixes when you want to. Overwatch, Counter Strike, Call of Duty, Apex, Valorant. all of these games put you in a match never longer than 3 minutes after you press play, and the experience you get is no different from the experience the pros get. the only difference is the players, which thanks to MMR are attempted to be matched to your skill level as closely as possible. compare this to TF2 where, if you decide out of the blue one day that you want to play a game of sixes on your favourite class of soldier, you have maybe 3 options. join a tf2center (could take upwards of an hour depending on the time of day, and tends to be a subpar missmatched experience), merc for a team in a scrim (requires you to only play during a time period of 7-9pm, if you even find a team that needs a player), or add up to a double mix (you have to know someone to invite you to the server and the server owners have to let you in, requires you to wait for 11 other people to also decide to mix). the alternative is pugging, but the pugs are dead. so you decide not to play tf2 competitively. repeat for 1000 other players and this is why the league is dead.
You compare new games with 100x bigger player base and professional esport scenes to old grandpa tf2.
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DrHappinessUnless you know where mixes are happening, its really hard to regularly play non-league 6s, and as someone who does not really have the time to commit to a season anymore it makes it difficult to try and play this game as often as I'd like.
6v6 Tf2center is active 24/7. I play it everyday and it's fun, you can meet here every kind of players, open, low and d1/prem. Only top level pugs are dead.
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ikinclark561wonderI'm pretty sure 90% of mid/high/prem players know about pug site. Maybe open/low players have no idea or just don't care.
if ur open/low you can't play pugs since you're never going to get picked up and even if you do you'll get harrassed and trash talked all game. you should know the first part wonder since you always pick captain so you don't get fatkidded
i'm not low/open and I dont pick captain oO
but I agree low/open players won't get picked so they don't add up
posted 1 day ago
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I'm pretty sure 90% of mid/high/prem players know about pug site. Maybe open/low players have no idea or just don't care.
posted 1 day ago
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I'm just telling facts. Back in 2015/2016 when scene was very active we had 3 pugs starting at same time almost for whole day. We need to accept game is dying. I know it's hard but it is what it is.
posted 1 day ago
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you have 50 teams in current hl season and 90-100 6v6 teams in last one. It's not big surprise there are no many comp players and pugs are dead. Last time pugs were active 24/7 was 10+ years ago when we had 300+ teams per 6s season and 200+ teams per hl.
posted 2 days ago
#25
best tf2 player from your country thread
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probably cube because he's the only polish player who won prem in history (+ 1st or 2nd place on LAN) with Epsilon.
From "newer" players probably rad(paparazi) and current alov
posted 3 weeks ago
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AimTechThe classic.
If you die to 2 rockets your fault.
If you die to 3 its your scouts.
wrong, it's always medic fault, even if entire team sac on you at same time
posted 3 weeks ago
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we tried yesterday it was 12/12 at some point and didn't start and people left
posted 1 month ago
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ikinclark561ever notice how every pug site that died had Wonder frequent it? peculiar...
so you're saying i'm that toxic guy who doesn't want to play with others?:P
btw the pug site we're talking about has pick system so if someone doesn't want to play with me/other specific player they can just simply don't pick that person. They don't have to kill whole site because of 1 or 2 players, right?
posted 1 month ago
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tikkehmost of those people wont change so im somewhat screaming into the void here
Maybe there is still a chance. They just need to chill a bit and try to understand that pugs won’t always be at such a high level or as perfect as they imagine. Perfect coordination and 100% tryharding is what scrims and offis with your own team are for and even those don’t always go the way you want. In that case, do players quit after 1 map of scrim and leave their teams, or do they keep trying to improve their teamwork and fix it? Or maybe they born as perfect players and played In prem div since 1st day?
posted 1 month ago
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_KermitwonderIdk why but there weren’t so many divides between people in the past (in old pugs)
What do you mean by "in the past" because pugchamp was 10 years ago (Sadge) and there was so much bullshit going in in them with people that didn't want to play with each other.
Idk maybe it's only from my pov but back then I didn't notice it and I had no problem with anyone and it was very active, many pugs everyday. Maybe from someone else pov it was different and I was lucky.
posted 1 month ago