At least I am "like" something and don't sit idly by, not even attempting to discuss the difficult shit like everyone else.

People "like" you stand for nothing, and when you do it's cause somebody told you to.

Most of zheep's post is a virtue signal, but I will attempt to show you how ideas like this are manufactured with emotion, and distrust propagated by the media.

That is not an argument.

That is not an argument.

I am actively speaking out against all major media conglomerates, I would never read any sad excuse for journalism that you could think of, if you read any of my first posts, that's clear.

I am exercising Freedom of Speech, if you are implying that I should not have that, you are evil.

That is not an argument.

My statistics, and others posted so far have been the only empirical data discussed in regards to this issue, if you have any others that refute them, I would be glad to read them and change my mind once you have proved your points. Remember just because you can parrot something that everyone is saying and agrees with, doesn't mean it's true, no matter how loud or how many times you say it.

This is a real problem that needs to be addressed, the blue code of silence is disgusting and our law enforcement needs an investigation done by an unbiased 3rd party into these things. That being acknowledged, I don't think it's racist to see issues like this, weigh them against issues I have brought up, and come up with a different opinion on what should be talked about in America.

Stop treating black people like children, they can have internal problems as a race that are cultural in nature without you making excuses for them. Every single day I see "news" and other white people tell me I need to address the privilege ever present in the white community, do you honestly not expect black people to be capable of the same self-reflection? Yes black communities are underfunded, yes they are underprivileged, the way to stop that is to come together in their community, stop getting fucking lied to by the media for 5 fucking seconds, and deal with the things that have actually been causing their problems. Like the direct correlation between all children being more likely to fall into crime without a father present, and the levels of fatherhood being the lowest in poor black areas. Let me clue you in on just how much more beneficial it is socially, and economically to strengthen the familial power of the impoverished rather than burn the city in which they live tojo. A lot. Even though the problem doesn't necessarily pertain to this, I see the trend of white people committing incredibly higher rates of suicide, not only at home but reflected in the data as well. Perhaps I am racist for believing that my and other people(s) should be focused on legitimate problems regarding life and death, instead of falsified privilege? Racial tensions being high should be a signal that we need to address problems that are difficult to discuss, and the media will stop at nothing from preventing you from having those conversations because they profit during chaos.

This is not a shitpost, I have never cared more about a topic on tftv or any online discussion. I spent hours trying to thoroughly explain my viewpoints and address every counterpoint, because I legitimately cannot stand watching idly by while my country is gas lit and destroyed by propaganda.

okay so, let me get this straight here. Murder statistics are now irrelevant because cops aren't actually killing black people when they interact, I thought that was supposed to be my point?

If you want to argue against me, shouldn't you first, respond to, I don't know any one of the statistics that I posted, clearly indicating lack of evidence supporting the reasons behind the protests first, before asking me to address different issues that weren't being discussed before? Obviously you won't do that, and if you do you will just point to mitigating factors instead of fact checking the data, like you would be doing vehemently if they in any way actually supported what you were saying.

I guess I will just continue to be the only one not talking to a wall and address your concern of black arrests. In 2018 there were nearly 500 black people shot, almost all by other blacks, in Chicago, this is incredibly concerning due to small area in which these shootings happen, and how many mass shootings there were. What's more concerning is that police only caught 1 out of 20 of the shooters https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-violence-clearance-rate-20180807-story.html

I don't want to seem like a racist by denying that there is cause for concern for police brutality. But if you were legitimately concerned about the well being of black people in your country, there are far greater issues that most people are afraid to discuss. By ignoring things like this and calling for protest, you are inciting further chaos in the communities that you claim to care about, and systematically ignoring/repressing the real issues plaguing these people you stupid fucks

le based anarchy bro, would be epig if we didn't have cops. Just look at all these super rad countries with the lease police per capita, im sure theseeee hot spots would be waaaaaay less dangerous than corrupt ol' AMERIKKA

https://i.imgur.com/kMMyTG5.png

This is the example of actual white privilege, if you don't see the need for police in your daily life you live in a safe area with little crime, guaranteed. You have no idea how drugs and violence actually affect communities, and how dangerous street culture is.

Fuck it's 4 am. No doubt euros will be up and about soon to derail my thread, in spite of the fact that not enough of them saw through this same ploy, that subsequently deceived them into legislating actual thought crimes.

Imagine that feeling but you're alone, I can't talk about my own ideas on social media due to fear of backlash, I can't talk to my family about this, even some of my friends, people in my hometown would get me fired if they saw that I was posting against the narrative. That's what it's like to seek the truth about what's going on in your country, it's terrifying, it's isolating, and my viewpoints are constantly obfuscated, or mocked by both parties. If I'm so wrong why won't they let me speak?

so shut the fuck up, why post after this? This is an accurate timeline of your thoughts so far

-LOl A poLITICS thread on tftv, lmaoooo im soo much smarter than these people! Welp! Better grab my popcorn and see the chaos LMAO

-LMaoooooo these nazi fucks are posting stats, im gonna call them retarded xD

-LOLLL they actually enganged me and called me out, if only they knew how smart I was and how many courses I have taken, fuckign retard:)))

- I could totally make you look like an idiot if I tried, but your too stupid, I will just make myself look like an idiot!

you literally come in here posting this just to not only, not give well reasoned analysis or discussion, but actively fight against it and deny that there is even a need for it. You are a coward, a liar, and much closer ideologically to a fascist than you could ever even know.

what is your argument? That I linked someone you didn't like, that I don't understand what im talking about, that the problems are more complex than im stating, yet you won't explain them. Now I understand tino, thank you, it makes sense why blacks kill blacks more than 50x more than whites do per 1,000,000, and killings in general are down yet there have been 7 days of destruction under duress of mass white on black violence. If you were to have told me that you took a bunch of media courses and have a political degree from the get-go, you could have cleared this right up for me, thanks tho!

I literally laid out the way this type of conversation usually works in like my second post. Lo and behold

someone posts stats> downvoted and nobody talks about it.

someone gives a personal account of how terrible all cops/white people are> OMG wtf He's SOOO brave updoot!

that same person farms more updoots off the meanie racist, calling them retarded, too stupid to respond to etc. obviously not providing any evidence to their cause and digging themselves further into logical fallacy/self absorption all the while believing it wholeheartedly.

People would be laughing at you in a thread where stats are actually taken into consideration

I'm sorry you guys hate yourself for the color of your skin and you feel ashamed, please don't. If you would have been taught how uncivilized all peoples were until very recently, you wouldn't have this viewpoint.

You have to be willing to accept that you could be wrong first, in this case people like tojo have the idea that when relevant statistics are brought up, they are systematically falsified, racist, and the person that is sharing them doubly so. Obviously it's very difficult to believe that you've been lied to your whole life and everything you were taught in cherry picked and scripted. You don't realize that most of the people that bring up statistics/large media gaslighting were once very liberal, before they started putting the pieces together and digging through the algorithms for google, youtube, twitter, that are designed to keep people outraged and left. So, tojo, if we're seeming a bit daft it's not because we have been brought up to hate minorities or worship a fascist state or whatever you believe. It's because we know where your coming from and it's easy to see why you and others fall so much in line with the corporations that taught you to think this way. I'm not trying to teach you how to view the world or patronize you, I am suggesting that the reasons your political opponents on these matters seem so off-base, and why nobody has called you dumb or stupid for ignoring the data while you call people retarded/racist, is because the only thing backing your argument at the end of the day is emotion, and I already know where it's coming from.

When people are this brainwashed by the media, that's exactly who they go to for validations for their actions. What would have been a partisan debate just 5-10 years has turned into most media inciting violence and categorically suppressing outside viewpoints. The end game here is, they want to polarize our nation racially, and down party lines for the sake of identity politics and talking points
It’s working

This is all a pervasive gaslight;

Black people do not get systematically murdered in this country by any group besides themselves, police included. So when someone posts something that seems like a measured response to this lie, it’s easy to feel like a revolutionary who is standing up against tyranny. I won’t lie and say this is the problem I’m trying to get at but let me explain how insidious this process really is.

1.) Like bear, people are manipulated that calling out police for misrepresented data points and figures is justified
2.) You become convinced that this is happening through the reinforcement of every single mogul you follow that doesn’t want to lose their platform. As well as the vast majority of media puppets.
3.) You are exposed to a manufactured and largely circulated counterpoint(s) that is supposed to representative of the other viewpoint, something that will attack not only your inaction towards their cause, but will vilify you for thinking wrong notice the jump from support of the “movement” to labelling those who argue against you as evil.) [/url]
4.) The narrative is manipulated to incite even more unrest. People vastly underestimate how fucking parasitic this type of journalism is to our country. At this point it should be obvious how the media pokes at our most sensitive issues as a nation and creates an environment where the more fucking lawlessness they provoke the more people will buy into it, and the easier it to propagate. This is pure evil.
5.) All of this is recycled into a nice little ideology of being an “ally” to the very doctrine that not only manipulated you from the get-go, but likely fueled an incomparable amount of violence/distrust towards whichever group you think you’re protecting.
6.) Our Nation burns for corporate gain and approval ratings
7.)They will cry out as they strike you

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