MaktwiikuuI'm not sure if this is established in the current conversation but it might be worth mentioning:
The plugin allows overriding the dimension of the hitbox (which is forced to be a cube) to any value, 4.0 being the one of default pipes, buffing all pipe launchers to be as big as IB is a possibility, so is finding a middle ground
The top part is the problem I have with plugins :P Not really playing tf2 if u can tweak things so massively. Yea u can say 6v6 tf2 isnt really tf2 either (wrong) because of whitelists, fixed/pro versions of maps etc, but I just find this a step too far.
if people have valid arguments about something being good/bad, and there is a way to fix it, why not to do so if it brings better quality of the games in general? the general talk here is whether this advantage is too op or not and the twiikuu's plugin resolves the problem
you may say different leagues may or may not use it and it's true, it's some sorta problem that we don't have a gold standard of everything, but it's mostly because all leagues regardless of the region will favor an opinion of their own gamers vs opinions of others, for example people in the EU think the market gardener is op and wanted it out from the game so we as the ETF2L banned it, simple as that
on the other hand people from NA don't seem to care much about a change and that's a clash between them and us
also this plugin (tf2-comp-fixes) is at some point a result of what competitive tf2 needed because there was a demand for it (changes not being done by valve in the game so we had to deal it by ourselves) and it's just a response for such, just as things being done by the Refresh Team with the most popular competitive map fixes and reworks
plugins as a "too much thing" is a shit argument because the requirements for applying it are so small so apparently it's not a huge deal to apply it everywhere since majority of the tf2 competitive world use serveme or qixalite and they can simply add the plugin to their server while we as the ETF2L can apply config changes to make it happen
moralexeitwiikuu made a fix for the pipe size a while ago its just not used
sm_override_pipe_size
https://github.com/ldesgoui/tf2-comp-fixes
apparently we on the ETF2L are likely to test it in the upcoming preseason 41 games
i think twiikuu made a good job by doing all of these changes, the main complaint about the IB was the pipe size and the plugin changes it, so i don't think it should be a problem to check if it works and if it does then we'll use it
based on our example while we are the very first league to use it, other leagues can take us as an example whether it works or not and apply it themselves