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Gazquintoshyou're still free to name whenever someone's been harassed, they've reported it to the admins and it's gone unpunished, otherwise you might as well stop pretending to be the saint that sees the big picture where admins are only biased towards certain people
This happened numerous times on TFTV, Twitter and even their own website. I don't see why I should name these situations. My point is that people did not care previously. You imply that ETF2L punished these kind of people before, but consider that a minor warning for flaming isn't the same as a deduction in prize money plus a 2-month and a 12-month ban.
for one thing, as far as im aware etf2l's policy has always been that if something is not reported, they won't deal with it. the uberchain incident has clearly been reported, and it probably wasn't just the initial twitter posts that got them banned but also the ignorance, blame shifting and name changing on steam after the major backlash from their actions
2nd off, people behaving like ass have been punished in the past, especially in the forums. most of the time people are banned from posting in the forums, have their avatars removed, and in the past they've also banned a player (taimou) for finding other ways to be racist on etf2l (such as changing team names)
thirdly, prem players have always been treated differently from the rest of the league in return for being able to shape the league's ruleset, whitelist, map pool, awards and winning money
all three points combined resulted in a case of precedence, funnily enough my ban back then has also been one and i know it sucks, but it's the right thing to do to show the league's stance on certain things.
after all certain possible sponsors have voiced their take on these people being able to play in the league and a sponsorship will keep competition going longer than toxicity, which kind of kills it. if you look at the old thread there's several ex-top players and other people who have done a ton for the community coming back after a long hiatus to express their thoughts on this kind of behaviour, with the underlying reason that it was probably why they stopped playing.
Gazquintoshu can start by naming some
Please, people only starting to care now that Uberchain has been a victim only confirms that people didn't give a shit about this matter in the first place
you're still free to name whenever someone's been harassed, they've reported it to the admins and it's gone unpunished, otherwise you might as well stop pretending to be the saint that sees the big picture where admins are only biased towards certain people
stephis it seriously that hard to ban people who are transphobic, homophobic, racist, etc.?? is it really THAT hard??
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GazStinson_OutOur statement:
http://etf2l.org/official-statement/
What a fucking joke
I'm not hating on Uberchain here, even though people lacking basic reading skills will surely think I am, however it's retarded that ETF2L and especially this community have ignored similar situations in the past and only now reacted to it because it is Uberchain. People talking about this never being acceptable under any circumstance are the same people that wouldn't have given a fuck if Pred and Degu would've harassed personXYZ instead, even if personXYZ would call them out for it publicly. This community surely isn't going to be better if people only care about a select few instead of everyone. Again, what a joke.
u can start by naming some
porky14:35 - o5.proky: ?
L 05/15/2018 - 14:26:50: "twitch.tv/b4nny<4><[U:1:10403381]><Spectator>" disconnected (reason "Double ragequit.")
Cole the Engy 21 engineer.tf (Score:20) defeats twitch.tv/b4nny (Score:11) on Viaduct Middle.
You gained 11 points.
Cole the Engy 21 engineer.tf : Haha b4nny I beat you as engineer while your playing soldier in front of 5 thousand viewers!
*SPEC* twitch.tv/b4nny : Nooooo!!!! I got beat by a engineer main!!!
*SPEC* ♔ peremptory proceedings: Holy shit b4nny you got fucking destroyed bro. That Cole Conagher gentlemen has only 3 thousand hours on his main account (he switched because he got account compromised/hacked) and you have over 15k+ wowowoww,
twitch.tv/b4nny left the game (Disconnect by user.)
Cole the Engy 21 engineer.tf : Yes that is right b4nny, because you see, engineer deserved a place in the 6 v 6 meta, because it is a superior class to soldier. But pretencious 6v6 elitists like you are biased against engy becasuse your jealous of his high skill ceiling P.S. Coheed and Cambria blows.
*SPEC* twitch.tv/b4nny : FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
twitch.tv/b4nny left the game (Disconnect by user.) <---- LOOOOOOOOOL
*SPEC* ♔ peremptory proceedings : Can I add you Cole?
Cole the Engy 21 engineer.tf : Maybe
viperthis is gonna be won by either cheaters or alters 100 fucking percent
yea like every other newbie tournament
Starkiewhy do these threads get made
to inform people
just because you're tired of it doesn't mean other people aren't interested in a discussion
community
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MR_SLIN1. Anecdotal evidence of comp players going to Valve HQ and them telling us they want to help grow the comp scene.
sounds like a good way to shut a community up without having to do anything
2. They created matchmaking, which is still a work in progress. It's definitely bad in its current state, but they did make improvements to it since launch and are still showing it way more support than they show other game modes they've created.
"work in progress"
"did make improvements since launch"
"showing it way more support than they show other game modes they've created"
if i ctrl+f 'competitive' here
one result on October 20, 2017: Moved the Casual and Competitive badge panels to the main menu
June 3, 2017: Fixed UI not displaying the "Searching..." panel when queued for competitive matchmaking
June 2, 2017: Fixed Competitive match history sometimes appearing as empty when connection to matchmaking servers is lost
Feb 14, 2017: Added new survey questions to the end-of-match survey for Casual and Competitive modes and fixed a bug where multiple surveys could be displayed at the same time
Dec 21, 2016: Players can now set their maximum acceptable ping by clicking the new gear icon in the top right of the Casual and Competitive matchmaking lobby screens and choosing "Ping Settings"
The Competitive maps list has been updated
Added cp_granary and cp_badlands ------------------------ on a sidenote, afaik they were gonna update the
Disabled cp_snakewater and cp_foundry ------------------------ maps list every week
Oct 25, 2016: Removed ctf_turbine from the Competitive maps list
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and other map updates and some elo updates (which to be honest, no one cares about, because barely anyone plays matchmaking for elo to be effective and it's full of cheaters). so i don't know why you'd say any of the three things you said
3. They put streams up on the main page of the game, which everyone knows are mostly comp-centered.
that was the very first thing they did after hundreds of people emailed them to finally do it. is this called "support"?
4. They pushed casuals into a more competitive pub game mode, which includes publicly-shown ranks and hidden MMR. These games are typically more competitive than your typical community server, which is a plus for the comp scene.
i don't know where you read that there's hidden MMR in casual matchmaking. publicly-shown "ranks" are actually levels that always go up. even if it was a plus ufor the competitive scene, it's a side effect of wanting to get rid of vip servers, all-skin-enabled servers and servers where people slowhack their users
5. They've made a ton of balance changes that favor the comp scene over the casual scene.
are you talking about the razorback/ambassador changes that favour highlander more than 6v6? should we list all the changes in the past two years and see which scene gets favoured more often? it's undeniable that valve is more on the economy focused side because they know tf2 is long past the way of becoming a big esport, but they are still making a shit ton of money off of casuals, so all they do is -just enough- to keep the competitive scene silent so they don't get spammed with emails.
like we get it you want to be optimistic about it but jesus.. it's not gonna happen. can we just do our own thing and not give a shit about valve?
T0mSo how many season has it been now since this idea of unbanning everything will encourage people to play comp tf2?
Numbers for leagues are still declining and fucking no one plays the actual matchmaking game mode. This whole if we unban the engie/pyro/heavy/spy will make the people who main those want to play 6s is just ridiculous. The game mode itself makes these classes pointless. Engie will get run over by everything, spy is easily counterable if u actually pay attention to the game, pyro will get run over by coordinated scouts. The argument for heavy might be there as there has been some success with muuki running it to mids but even then you can deal with it with some simple coordination.
People just dont wanna play competitive. How is this so hard to realise. Please just fucking give up with this bullshit as the numbers arent going to rise to where it actually means something. We are always going to be a small community. Tf2 is never ever ever going to be like dota/cs/lol/ow.
Can we just enjoy what we have and have a non aids whitelist?
xbow
ubersaw
kritz
gunboats
escape plan
class limits:
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i know this has been said over and over again but i sincerely believe most people never wanted any of the other unlocks if it wasn't for a single ex tf2 dev saying "i find 6v6 boring", which resulted in people going ahead and unbanning as much crap as possible in hopes of
1. getting more support from valve - which never happened, unless you consider a half-assed gamemode that calls itself "Matchmaking" which no one ever plays and is full of cheaters actual support
2. getting more pubbers to play competitive - has likely not happened much compared to tons of entertaining streamers and tons of resources built up and maintained by very few people (ToTH, huds.tf, whitelist.tf, comp.tf, serveme.tf, fps configs, logs.tf/sizzlingstats.com, tragicservers, tf2lobby.com/tf2center.com/tf2pickup.net/pugchamp.gg/, fragmovies/fragshows)
most recent windows 10 update caused a bunch of people to get input lag, try playing in fullscreen