truly the chosen people

if you say pumpkin you actually mean sweet potato but you just dont realize it yet

I make a mean pecan pie tho

nice 180 degree ninja edit side switch homie

that's cuz they're not as fun as pipes unless you care about winning scrims to a crazy degree

I would go hard-line and just revert the movement speed part of it entirely, or the health

it's weird how neither is even that great by itself but they become so powerful together

the nerf was pretty recent right? I forgot about that l0l my bad

I promise I still know what im talking about in regards to the booties!!!

because part of being a competent demo is ammo management, this ends up being less of a big deal than you might think (not that it isn't still a drawback obviously). with the addition of the movement speed it becomes worth it. the only way to show otherwise is if the theoretical downside of no pipes was leading to a tangible affect. that would probably mean that, if one looked at logs of a demo using booties, they'd either a) have less overall damage (because 8 projectiles instead of 12) or b) more deaths (cuz pipes are good at close-range protection). since neither seem to be the case (and in fact, it seems like booties demos die less and do the same or more dmg), we can conclude that their advantages make up for the pipes.

in practice that is definitely untrue

the movement speed enables you to hit stickies more quickly, especially on fast moving targets like scouts

hassassin abuses them better

it's better than focusing the demo, failing to kill him anyways, and giving their scouts a combined 6k every mid fight, but it still leads to demos going 20-2 and doing 400 dpm which is prolly not gonna help your chances of winning overall

the best abuser of the weapon is litearlly on your team b

Last season, we had a pretty serious discussion about banning the loose cannon. Yet, no one seems to bring them up anymore. Why is that? Well, I can't speak for anyone else but, frankly, the booties are so overpowered that I barely care about that other annoying demo unlock anymore. Any competent (not amazing, just competent) demo who runs them instantly has the potential to get fewer deaths than his medic while playing exactly as aggressive as he normally would. You're harder to kill, stickies are easier to hit, and in general it's just unbelievably annoying to play against.

Way back in November I had this conversation with tri:

WhiteRaceCadet: yo
WhiteRaceCadet: pls tell me yall are banning the booties
WhiteRaceCadet: next season
WhiteRaceCadet: pls
tri: should we
WhiteRaceCadet: its overpowered as FUCK
WhiteRaceCadet: its ridiculous
WhiteRaceCadet: seriously, make a thread floating the possibility on tftv and see what people think or something
WhiteRaceCadet: id be heavily surprised if people didnt agree with me
tri: are they overpowered
tri: lol
WhiteRaceCadet: insanely overpowered
WhiteRaceCadet: every demo who runs them like topdamages while dying less than either medic

I'm extremely lazy (and tri clearly didn't believe me) so I waited til now to make an actual thread. So, what do other people think on this topic?

WhiteRaceCadet: yo
WhiteRaceCadet: pls tell me yall are banning the booties
WhiteRaceCadet: next season
WhiteRaceCadet: pls
tri: should we
WhiteRaceCadet: its overpowered as FUCK
WhiteRaceCadet: its ridiculous
WhiteRaceCadet: seriously, make a thread floating the possibility on tftv and see what people think or something
WhiteRaceCadet: id be heavily surprised if people didnt agree with me
tri: are they overpowered
tri: lol
WhiteRaceCadet: insanely overpowered
WhiteRaceCadet: every demo who runs them like topdamages while dying less than either medic

this is from back in november b t w

at least half of my posts in the various political discussion threads on here are -fragged because, while people don't seem to mind when I point out the most egregious racists like SpaceCadet, they don't necessarily like when I call out people who seem more reasonable for also saying really prejudiced and/or irrational things (like blaming Muslims for all terrorist attacks based on a definition of terrorism specific to the U.S. in order to avoid labeling anything we do as a matter of foreign policy as terrorism

I've been accused of many things in my time on tf2 forums, but being a relentless pursuer of plusfrags is not one of them. I will point out racism when I see it, and it's been a calling card of racists to paint themselves as the victims rather than the perpetrators of hate since the dawn of time

fuck the map discussion, we need to get rid of the booties more than anything

to be fair, I don't think anyone past or present (with the exception of the guy who made borneo) has ever really taken vhalin seriously as a human being

plus he was the worst player on x6 heh

repeating a lie doesn't make it true