@TimTum

I appreciate the feedback and giving the map a fair shot :) nice to see. On one hand Im happy it got played, on the other im disappointed because i really do think that the way the pre season cups are ran are not a good environment for the map to be tested for league viability. I was watching some of the games and like you said, it was quite clear most people hadn't even bothered to look at the map before playing it which is going to skew the feedback pretty heavily.

The map has been one of the most tested in my group, and a large majority of the playtests I had on this map were extremely positive and hutty was in attendance for most of those. The simple fact is no map is ever fully league ready upon inaugural inclusion, The maps we have in rotation today started bad, and got a lot better over time though league feedback. Mist along with many of the other maps we have put a lot of work into testing are without a doubt more league ready than any other map that was added previously, absolutely no doubt in my mind about that. Snakewater, gully, process etc all those maps changed immensely through league play and were not considered very good when they first got added.

If you guys want the maps to improve and you want maps with active developers, the fact is you're going to have to just add the map and play it, no map is ever going to be perfect for league play when its added and frankly a lot of the current maps are not even close to perfect for the current meta of the game (along with none of those developers being around anymore to make changes)

gonna be running some maptest pugs for a couple hours around 5pm est today come play!

hello everyone im running more maptest pugs today at 5PM est! come join and play some wicked maps :)

I would die happy

Monsta isn’t on our team anymore and hasn’t played a match on demo for us lol exile is our demo, nomi is our second scout :) thanks for casting as always!

what are you looking for exactly? this map has been tested extensively in my group over the last 11 versions or so

https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=news&d=comments&id=15175

and they changed it for good reason, hardly single comment on this news post upset about the change. infact a word used pretty often is "progress"

for fun factor sure, but vetos is an objectively more competitive system by far. TF2 is one of the only map based games to have used a forced map rotation for a reason.

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my fault for not having all the information, i heard the rule wasn't applied anymore but didn't realise it still applied for 7v7

not sure why this is warranted, I was merely replying to the fact that unless some testimonials are provided from teams that permanently quit playing esea because of bitcoins i'm not really going to buy into that argument. Never been a fan of bandwagon mentality doesn't matter what its about and the sigafoo hate train is getting really old.

You can look back on this comment when everyone giving sigafoo and RGL shit right now are all going to be playing in that league if it ends up offering 10k and a LAN, if that becomes a reality and you don't play it then you're just spiteful and nothing else.

Ill be happy to see 31 more seasons of RGL then I guess lol

You realize he addressed the “salary cap” ruling against froyo a while back and removed it lol froyo has been allowed to compete with a full roster for a while now

maptest pugs today at 5 PM EST! we got some good ones today :)

Professor Hulk is a pretty well known comic book series and rendition of bruce banner, Im glad they ended up adding him in the end :)