but these things are played with in pubs and they pubbers say the same shit we do why dont they change to accommodate that?
for example the soda popper, crit a cola and baby face are, from my experience, the most complained about in the pubs that i play at least which is like purely harvest and those ones are sort of the main things we are keeping out of 6s (like top tier of shit we absolutely do not want) so if we are out right rejecting it as a community and the pubbers hate it so much too then why, if they are willing, have they not changed these things? or proof tested it or watever its been like months if not a year these things are exactly the same
idk where they get their pubber inspired changes from anyway because i never saw a pubber complain about stickies ever or ambassador
the conversation is kinda pointless anyway because i think enjoyment of the game for the top scene of tf2 is on thin ice atm players actually do not want to play it as it is and spend a fuck tonne of time complaining (tune into any prem/invite stream not playing scrims/officials) so giving them more shit to complain about will just end up losing valuable community members
i dont even want more shit in the game even if its not broken/annoying/bad or whatever its really a good thing that everyone plays with the same shit
if whatever stupid wep u can think of was unbanned it wouldn't effect the player base in a positive way at all because although pubbers are telling you that they're not playing because they want 6 pyros, really that's not the reason at all and its just an excuse. the real reason is that they have mad fragile egos and don't think they're good enough because they watch B4nny all day and think 'waw i cant do that' and then just don't play or have any desire to play and then even mock it, the idea that someone would wanna be good at this game. just talk to a pubber
if valve actually wanted us to use an open white list in exchange for support they would have made Sigafoo's league their own self with more money