for me personally the biggest issue is how uninteresting the iseries lans have been for the past 2(?) years. watching the game is just not entertaining at all anymore.

like i remember screwming at my facking monitor watching that froyo vs nR game and i didnt even have an interest at 6s back then. that’s completely gone now it was just pug teams and then some somewhat cringe finals

i think like banny is suggesting we need to change this format, and nows the best chance to do it in tbe winter season where teams just kinda fack around.

the iseries is really the most important part of the scene. it introduces the most people to the game and showcases it to the community where u will see pros from other games and twitch staff in the chat. we are showing these ppl some slug ass molasses shitty facking gameplay and we cannot expect anyone to give a shit when we dont really even care

needs to be like a fully charged or some shit to talk about this and bannys gotta be on board to give his own views and work together or he can just pack it in mate and go pub

fully charge should consist of kaido, twikuu, banny, sigafool and be hosted by Getawhale/eXtine/WARHURYEAH, wearing a suit.

yeah i get that but i dont think the goal for this game should be become an esport theres too many of those every game that comes out in 2019 is an esport

wats wrong with just being a good game? it should never be about money its just a little side hobby

like if i woke up tomorrow to a post saying how theres a 1m tourny, that will effect no other players lives than froyo and 7 members. idk about the other ppl here but i wouldnt care at all and just play the game the same way. it would kinda make it worse if the community just miraculously got bigger because we’d lose the ability to just kno everyone with it being a tight knit community

wed just get a bunch of ppl who dont give a shit about the game and then potentially u and Seagull but thats kinda the only bonus that will effect me, The Common Gamer.

no otherwise everyone wouldnt be saying how much they dont like playing tf2 and raging and crying all the time.

i think the majority of players would say they play tf2 because they dont kno wat else to do, not because they enjoy it. lots of players are mad frustrated all the time and yelling in twitch clips

ppl hate that the game is based around scouts
ppl hate the map selections (for some reason)
the pug systems
how slow the game has become

things like that. we should be attempting to fix these issues as a comunity bun watever valve is gonna do

u do not want a game like overwatch where people dont even like the game but are playing it as a job. u dont want some soulless meaningless shit. 1m tournamenr would just go to bannt no one even cared about sigafoo paying out of pocket they just let that go to banny a giant stadium and a million dollars isnt gonna change that if the games potential has already been reached

and if the games potential has already been reached and we cant fix these issues as a community then in no way do we even deserve that big stadium

we dont need and never have needed any support from valve. theyve only fucked the game

idk why u guys think if they just throw money at the game then itll be good thats not how it works and even if it is how it works thats awful

as a community our focus should purely be how can we make the game more enjoyable to play

hes right but his complete disregard of these forums and like giving us a proper solution to these issues demonstrates that he has lost all faith in the community as a whole, which then actually stagnates everything because hes not working with us, at least to a proper degree

a lotta shit he was saying when he was talking wouldnt solve those issues anyway

? then how u gonna kno wat the fuck going on son?

i was thinking about how a lotta froyo vs ascent or even some lower teams, froyo was often being beaten and then they have a huge comback and win. (like when cw is playing is what i mean)

thats probably because of the way they structure the games, but it shows how this rule set can have a major sway in how its played and i think i like the idea of there being a goal to reach. a lot of the games im playing now are slow as balls and are really decided at whoever has 3 rounds and then its just passive time wasting shit thats how a lotta EU players think and its not good for the game and i dont think it always says who really shouldve won

wat number would u rather space? i think 5 is not too little and not too much

playing 1 map per week i think is better easier to scrim gives teams enough time to think about how theyre gonna play it wasier to introduce new maps

its kinda weird how we play different rulesets from eachother especially when thinking about international lans. it changes the pace of the game and it would be better if we just had one.

wats the idea behind each one?

personally i think americans is better

Kinda pathetic

Its about individual style. If u need assistance trying to express your own style then u need srs help not just from the TFTV forums.

u can do it because theres no perfect way to play but its not fun so fuck it

i think they would have all class on regardless of what people felt just to include as much people as possible

and people didnt really care enough to complain because they play it for like 10mins and then go scrim. most people in TF2 don't conciously practice

lots of twitch streamers/youtubers started casting the spy v spy battles and shit instead because they thought it was funny that someone would waste their time doing shit like that

i think they played on AS because it was just always the most full one, not because they enjoyed that server particulary. it wasnt a concious decision its just u launch tf2, that one has the players on and u join it

? But like the next 3 comments are about how bad the idea of having other classes than just Scout and Soldier are. Nobody wants to have their map hogged up by Snipers or god knows what else. I thought you were beign sarcastic.

Im a big fan of Steph but her MGE server represents everything that I dont wanna play on.

Also, I know this is just a me thing but I like elo, especially on the American servers where everyone is using some dumb longass alias/japanese name and theres no !div.

Its demoralizing and kind of kills the urge to practice when you are vs a noob, and then that noob won't leave the arena even tho they're getting 20-0'd because they wanna prove something and then it turns into a big waste of time when u could be playing a real guy.

I understand the problems with ELO tho, which mostly ammounts to angry ass 1800s trying their absolute hardest to get ELO off of 2k+ people, so i think the best idea is to have a low ELO cap. that way u can see differentiate between who is a real player and who isn't and the people who are at the top have nothing to gain by playing tryhard and evnetually the 1800s 'wont have a reason' either (it wont make a difference)

i agree with trip kinda its not really to do with mouse control a lot of players have good mouse control and its not muscle memory its more ur brains/eyes ability to read movements and react which is also why u can not open the game for 3 years and still out aim ppl who play 24/7

however thats probably not the case for those ppl who aim and u cant even see wats on the screen cause its all wobbly