if we displayed the the game as actually fun we would attract the casual audience because atm all they got is banny crying his mind out and meatshotting and airshottimg everytnimg and the same with the ppl he pugged with

we really marketing this game as some kinda inescapable hell that is a plague to ur life that ppl are playing for no reason cause they hate it and cant not play it

hows it surprising that ppl dont wanna play then....

like i dont even think OW was popular because of the money, it just looked fun. same with fortnite. a HUGE population of those games dont even kno that shit exists they just play it because its Fun.

i dont need money to play a videogame

no because i dont think women would be able to have a flamethrower

i wish he said this earlier tho instead of ‘i got nothing to prove muahahaha >:)’ the whole time because we coulda made these changes and had this discussion earlier BEFORE viewership went from 10k to 1k

im sure itll grow more on me ive listened to the whole thing 3x

the first song is amazing i was so hyped but then as the songs went on i got bored towards the end

theres too much going on with it to think about it so quickly

He couldnt play his cringe rules if he wanted because no one else would want to waste their time on that shit so its understandable he obviously has to play it in RGL. he loses money to go iseries is the difference.

His goal in life is to make money off of video game... Thats all that matters. Shoulda just went OW

id be happy if our scene was what it was in 2013 the whole time

thats not what he actually wants tho BumFreeze hes jusr bending over for GabeN so he would throw money at him

for me personally the biggest issue is how uninteresting the iseries lans have been for the past 2(?) years. watching the game is just not entertaining at all anymore.

like i remember screwming at my facking monitor watching that froyo vs nR game and i didnt even have an interest at 6s back then. that’s completely gone now it was just pug teams and then some somewhat cringe finals

i think like banny is suggesting we need to change this format, and nows the best chance to do it in tbe winter season where teams just kinda fack around.

the iseries is really the most important part of the scene. it introduces the most people to the game and showcases it to the community where u will see pros from other games and twitch staff in the chat. we are showing these ppl some slug ass molasses shitty facking gameplay and we cannot expect anyone to give a shit when we dont really even care

needs to be like a fully charged or some shit to talk about this and bannys gotta be on board to give his own views and work together or he can just pack it in mate and go pub

fully charge should consist of kaido, twikuu, banny, sigafool and be hosted by Getawhale/eXtine/WARHURYEAH, wearing a suit.

yeah i get that but i dont think the goal for this game should be become an esport theres too many of those every game that comes out in 2019 is an esport

wats wrong with just being a good game? it should never be about money its just a little side hobby

like if i woke up tomorrow to a post saying how theres a 1m tourny, that will effect no other players lives than froyo and 7 members. idk about the other ppl here but i wouldnt care at all and just play the game the same way. it would kinda make it worse if the community just miraculously got bigger because we’d lose the ability to just kno everyone with it being a tight knit community

wed just get a bunch of ppl who dont give a shit about the game and then potentially u and Seagull but thats kinda the only bonus that will effect me, The Common Gamer.

no otherwise everyone wouldnt be saying how much they dont like playing tf2 and raging and crying all the time.

i think the majority of players would say they play tf2 because they dont kno wat else to do, not because they enjoy it. lots of players are mad frustrated all the time and yelling in twitch clips

ppl hate that the game is based around scouts
ppl hate the map selections (for some reason)
the pug systems
how slow the game has become

things like that. we should be attempting to fix these issues as a comunity bun watever valve is gonna do

u do not want a game like overwatch where people dont even like the game but are playing it as a job. u dont want some soulless meaningless shit. 1m tournamenr would just go to bannt no one even cared about sigafoo paying out of pocket they just let that go to banny a giant stadium and a million dollars isnt gonna change that if the games potential has already been reached

and if the games potential has already been reached and we cant fix these issues as a community then in no way do we even deserve that big stadium

we dont need and never have needed any support from valve. theyve only fucked the game

idk why u guys think if they just throw money at the game then itll be good thats not how it works and even if it is how it works thats awful

as a community our focus should purely be how can we make the game more enjoyable to play

hes right but his complete disregard of these forums and like giving us a proper solution to these issues demonstrates that he has lost all faith in the community as a whole, which then actually stagnates everything because hes not working with us, at least to a proper degree

a lotta shit he was saying when he was talking wouldnt solve those issues anyway

? then how u gonna kno wat the fuck going on son?

i was thinking about how a lotta froyo vs ascent or even some lower teams, froyo was often being beaten and then they have a huge comback and win. (like when cw is playing is what i mean)

thats probably because of the way they structure the games, but it shows how this rule set can have a major sway in how its played and i think i like the idea of there being a goal to reach. a lot of the games im playing now are slow as balls and are really decided at whoever has 3 rounds and then its just passive time wasting shit thats how a lotta EU players think and its not good for the game and i dont think it always says who really shouldve won