Ok none of that shit means anything. its lived that long because its free, the low graphic requirements and its made by valve. Thats why its the most downloaded game and thats what CS players have been saying the whole time they were making fun of the game.

It probably is the first thing any steam user installs, but that doesnt mean anything

You’ve misinterpreted what we are talking about when i said failed because i didnt say failed in what.

we’re both right in that it did succeed in what youre saying and it failed in the way im saying, but whether or not you agree or disagree im sure you would rather be playing this game 5 years ago than playing it right now for a reason and thats what i meant by failed.

most other ppl seem to be saying shit thats in the past like ‘the game DID this’ or ‘the game WAS this’.

its got nothing going for it now

im not taking it out on the community i asked the question in order to see wat ppl i dont kno have to say because i knew most people would disagree

a lot of ppl feel the same way as i do so i thought the conversation would be valid and the mixed response has made me reconsider certain aspects about it...

love my etymotic 4xrs even tho the filters need replacing snd stuff and its annoying to get in EU 100 percent worth it

jerma star and muselk dont count because they only made TF2 videos during the games peak and now with star and muselk have big overwatch platforms now like muselk was on TV and shit

dont think its possible for a new tf2 youtuber to do that i think bannys taken their spot and he doesnt get nearly that much views

yeah this is some real shit and now when theres ‘shit talk’ its just forced as a desperate attempt to make the game slightly more interesting because its dead and no one cares.

its what happened in my first season where the guys talking mad shit to my teammates calling them all sorts of racist shit towards russia, they lose the div and the guy just says nahh bro we were just joking to make it more interesting.

its very obviously failed. the game is universally regarded as boring, stagnant and shows no possibility to even get back to a state where people were already saying that the game was dead. we wish we were back up there. prem games fell down from 1.5-2k viewership down to struggling to get 100 and the number is only decreasing. unless youre actually going to the LAN and u wanna get drunk with a bunch of weaboos IRL, no one gives a shit if there was one or not.

i dont even kno the casters names anymore or what they even sound like

idk i started playing comp TF2 kind of late but a lot of the time i have been playin i wanna say a good 40 pct of my scrims on either my team or theirs the guys just go pootis or some shit and start trollin or losing their mind because they dont care at all. wat ive gathered from it so far is that ppl just play this because they dont really know what else to play because they started when the game was interesting and now that its not they don’t kno what else to do.

TLDR
no twitch views
boring
no reason to play
never gonna be money in game - never mattered to me but it clearly does to some ppl
only gettin worse

anyway hooli hit the nail on the head so i gues i just gotta wait till im 40 for a proper game to come out

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thats not wat im talking about im not talking about big brain banny plays or anything impressive im talking about actually playing the game

not try harding either just playing what the game is

why tho? they play the game thats in front of them

iv been playin quake this week and then i started thinking about how in games with some degree of depth and complication, like TF2 or quake, the playerbase seem batshit dumb as a rock and do not care, but in a game that has no depth whatsoever like Overwatch and Fortnite, every single player, whether casual or competitive, take it absolutely seriously, try their absolute hardest, pick the right classes to play, etc

wat do u think causes a thing like this? i don't think its money because these casual players don't earn any money playing this, but if this game offers more depth than Overwatch, why is it that ur much more likely to run into a friendly pootis than a friendly Winston?

in my opinion this is a big contributor on why this game failed

its obv not tho because they're going on about it still in the thread and not denying it at all tho.....

how does she have the guts to say something like that after this?

She dye her hair like Kanye did

Brits and Finns have completely unearned riddiculous disgusting makes no sense shouldnt be possible hitscan aim as in they just spin around and somehow hit u.

Brits more so. 80% of Brits no matter wat class just spin around and somehow are good players

because we are trying to work out the hardware of these ppl