yeah for people that practice everyday and make no progress might just need a more chilled out alternative that doesnt waste the time of their opponent where they can play and improved without caring about elo or being shit talked

dm in its current state is too flawed to meet that

there are lots of players with similar or some cases even more hours than me and they cant airstrafe and move in straight lines because they skipped steps in progression and didnt learn everything from pubbing. this is like a fun alternative with no pressure to do well where they can go back and improve

this could make it so these players or those open divs with 8000 tf2venters can see improving mechanics as fun and not a soulless grind

the issue with current dm with that is theres too much random spam , its too braindead, even more than a pub. by spreafing it out it would reduce this and u can havre fights on a lot more areas like last points for example

not even last points actually they dont need to be comp maps at all it should have its own

for me and why i want this is rly that it would be a more mechanically advanced harvest pub with a mixed bag of skill levels and a lot more optimal for how i play harvest, so i can also practice my aim (which i dont think current dm lets me)

not even gonna front peak tf2 for me is probably like an instant respawn harvest server woth just me and 23 MGE Mike levsl bots (not to say the dm server should be 24 players, but iust more than 8. depends on map pool)

i mean thats just about letting people practice aiming something ideally they wouldnt be there but this is just to make it more pubber friendly and i dont think it would lose the appeal dm already has when they are there

in the same way having 3 snipers on ur pub team doesnt effect ur pubbing u can just ignore that

i just only find killing scouts as aim intensive but i think i yet again didnt make what im trying to say clear enough for tftv cause in one part im just talking about how the only shit that is pravtive is killing scouts, makng it seem like i dont want other shit, but then i start talking about other shit and im assuming peeople didnt read that

but there also shouldnt be restrictions on demos/soldiers and with more ppl u can even have sniper (this with restriction) and in a more pub friendly server knife disabled amby spy

its literally just a pub gamemode with competitive attributes both sides of the community could enjoy something like this

less of a clusterfuck, more people to kill, more inclusive, beneficial to those who play mge for years and still 1600 elo, gets more pubbers involved with comp minded shit, more realistic because u would have fights in random areas as opposed to just shooting soldiers on gully nipple who are permanently there shooting down that arent satisfying when u kill and alla that

it would've been literally what the csgo version of dm is basically

dm in its current state is useless, shit and difficult to tell if ur even doing well in it or not

no it would've been a pub but without an objective and you would respawn in random points on the map and regen health like you would in a dm server. it would've been a much better way to bridge the gap between pubbers adn competitive that what they were given

which is seemingly what they want anyway with the way hightower is played and how popular instant respawn games are

would be much better for new players, particularly those who are 1400 elo in mge where no one wants to play them because they are so shit and as they see it, pubbing is too easy for them, because we wouldn't have to directly play vs them and they could get better much faster in this kind of half and half environment.

woudl also be much better for demos who currently in dm just sticky chokes and demo mge is stupid as we all know anyway. this would give a much more realistic way of training for them too

vs what we currently have which is:

long to get in because its only 8 people

a clusterfuck because its so small

just spam

so its not as useful as it could be and is gatekeeping from the pubbers who could use this sort of thing to improve quickly because of how long it is to join and then when u finally do theres class restrictions

instead of what they were given with matchmatching which was entirely alien to them so they wouldn't have even played it even if valve did what we told them to do. this would've been much closer to pubbing whilst still improve their skill level and then they would just play 6s how everyone else did traditionally

it would've been literally what the csgo version of dm is basically

this shit that im talking about shouldve been what matchmaking was

even expanding the maps to not just mid and then adding more players wuld be fun

this shit could be like a viable alternative to mge if it was just a bit better

whos that?

because that game is based on shit like bullet spread and like fuckin spray patterns and shit and i just want to click on the guy and not worry about some bullshit way of making an easy game difficult

anyway it would be a lot more fun and fulfilling if this gamemode wasnt just spam in chokes and shit

Started playing DM

should be able to have 4 scouts i dont even care about shooting the other classes i just wanna shoot scouts the other classes are kinda useless anyway soldiers just shoot down from high ground thats not practice

all the other classes do is shoot u in the back

koth is the best to play for me and i think most people woudl say most entertaining on stream too. we should have more of it ideally. koth always was the most fun shit to watch during hte iseries lans

dope would love to see it

U cant even see this shit when you are in close range - u just insta die. i can see stock pipes

Ban this shit im sick of dying across the map to shit that misses me T_T

in the two or so years during the development of the pyro update a thread asking for wat u just said was made on a weekly basis with 10000s of people saying the exact dame thing

as a 50 LG 30 rail player valves decisions to stunt my growth is a hate crime