incredible to misinterpret someones point that wildly and then still not even remotely counter the misinterpreted version of the point

im glad we all already speak english so we can have this discussion

im going to go insane if i have to argue to u any more that english is orders of magnitude more prevalent both as a native and 2nd language

no it doesnt man. it has a small community of hobbyist families who taught their kids the language alongside their actual local native language that they all speak in day to day public life

please read before u reply. i said its more demanding to request that ~600m+ ppl learn a language nobody speaks than to request that a much smaller group of ppl learn a language that most ppl around them speak

so u genuinely believe that if i ordered at a restaurant, or asked for directions, or talked about a football match, anywhere in europe, i would have better success in communication speaking esperanto than in english, on average. just want to make the question very clear here

i agree, but that applies for any language. spanish has a high success rate because you actually can be immersed with it

cos theres no reason to be bilingual at all for most americans? really not sure what yr getting at

people made fun of u for saying that because it was funny, not because they couldnt infer what u meant. u being able to completely make up a word that makes rough sense to most ppl is actually a great example of elasticity. either way im talking about the grammar not the vocab so idc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSzfB64p5TM&t=19s

this is the most anglocentric thing either of us have said

when your statistics are to be trusted completely:

https://i.imgur.com/GXdDdY4.png

i would be very sure this skews towards the lower end since it exists almost purely has a hobbyist language and has 0 native speaking cultures of any size

who are u quoting here?

what language would u recommend i learn if i want to go traveling around europe

sounds like u didnt practice very much. several ppl from my work who work with native spanish speakers talk to them in spanish purely from HS level education + practice/immersion

theres a lot of ppl in america who speak spanish as a 2nd language and almost none who speak esperanto

0% chance im discussing cross-cultural influence in europe with u but this is irrelevant and also not solved by esperanto

yes it does

unbelievable to me that a french person would complain about something foreign. this just made things serious

i guess i can be the one to take u seriously and present the impossibly obvious answers

main problem is that about half of non-slav europe (250m+) already speaks english conversationally, and the ratio is certainly much higher in younger international online communities. esperanto has probably fewer than 100,000 fluent speakers globally, with many of those in SEA. asking what, 10-20% at most of tf2 euros to learn conversational english is less demanding than asking 99.9% of tf2 euros to learn esperanto

also keep in mind youd be asking those 99.9% to learn a new language purely to comm in tf2. they would still want to learn english to be able to communicate with foreigners in the real world. even if people wanted to move to an easier-to-learn, more structured language then spanish would be a much more useful alternative

english also actually works really well as an auxiliary language, at least for europe, mostly due to the elasticity of its grammar, but also from broad similarities to germanic structure and romance vocabulary. esperanto is probably also fine, but if you look empathetically at the real world usefulness of language, its only real advantage is ease of learning. if you wanted to talk about a global auxiliary language then its worth discussing constructed languages but thats not rly relevant in tf2

should also be noted that 95% of the problems ive seen about language barrier in euro gaming come from slavs (who have a different standard language) playing on euro servers, and most of the rest are about french people refusing to learn english

trying to get global sports fans to care about baseball is even funnier than trying to get americans to care about soccer. NFL global expansion next pls

hey keith

i saw the first 6 letters of the thread title and knew exactly what this was + who posted it, didn’t even see his thread from yesterday first

problems like these where the answer is just "communication" are so odd to me. like unless ur talking about running tryouts whats so complex here that warrants using an app or spreadsheet?

imo if yr gonna leave your team with no communication the day before a match bc u desperately want to make playoffs, u should probably make sure to actually make playoffs. lol

whats your shortlist for the main cast

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just now learning that rgl pugs released

all of my best friends play there every night and i get picked every pug and they let me play soldier

wow they finally looked at all my reports