i know more about the game mechanics than most people but you wouldn't believe me if i said that

how is this forum not a circlejerk

reddit actually talks about the game ;)

frankly i'm fucking sick of every discussion about gameplay getting shut down by circlejerkers, i honestly prefer reddit over tf2tv for this kind of thing nowadays. i can't talk about an aspect of the game i'm interested in (and countless others are too) without someone trying to be funny and doing the ugc profile shtick and then going on to make worthless fragbait posts. it's fucking tiring, imagine new players who come to tf2tv for the first time and all they see are shit irrelevant threads. it's a great way to kill a competitive scene for sure

a 5 sticky trap kills every class in the game no matter what you stupid fuck. this must be some kind of joke

your steam profile is covered in pictures of a half-naked anime girl dude, i'm sure you feel real big talking down to me

sydney sleeper, crit a cola, jarate, beggar's bazooka, those are just the obvious examples. no one's even really delved into the items that are unbanned. what happened to sticky traps?

i'll just end this here though because i've talked myself to death over this topic

real mature, someone already posted that profile though

thanks for proving my point, dumb videos like that don't help any weapon's cause. it's been discussed to death that there were far more important factors than the QF that caused the stalemates, but whatever

i didn't say unlocks were the only solution. and i guess counterplay isn't valued?

it's already hopeless when people have their minds made up about "stupid" weapons from the moment they read the stats

any nerf would have to be handled delicately so it wouldn't go back to collecting dust. on that note i think most players agree stickies could stand to be nerfed, but the difference is they've been around forever and earned "staple" status in 6s. in comparison to that i don't really think QF got a fair trial.

there are a lot of great QF counters that are banned (stuff that enables burst damage) and that's part of the problem too. can't cut out certain parts and expect the machine to run smoothly

shit, i remember a video where a sniper quickscoped a medic three times while he was megahealed and didn't drop him, instead of just charging a shot for a second more. it was so dumb but enough people bought it i guess

to me 50/50 quickfix/kritz is more exciting than 70/30 uber/kritz.

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/11550/esea-quick-fix-ruling/?page=1

The consensus was not as one-sided as you think. Players like Seagull and Platinum vouched hard for QF and made incredibly good points in its defense. On top of that, it's been a year and it hasn't been looked at once since the LAN.

and the "fun" argument is stupid

his point is you can talk yourself in circles about why this weapon is bad for 6s or you can just swallow your pride and try it out

wow pyro sounds amazing, why isn't he run in 6s more.

crits on pyro's weapons don't mean shit when other classes outdamage him all the time. like all the time. soldiers/demos can already explosive stall classes and stuff ubers.

the thing is pyros have to put in far more effort for something resembling what the other combat classes can do effortlessly.

all i can get out of your post is that you feel entitled to be able to spam out pyros with rockets (RL is way easier than airblast timing). in a good soldier/pyro matchup the pyro is fucked unless the soldier makes a mistake.

that's how it functions, but why does it need to be banned for that?

i don't see buff banner in 6s ever. you can actually pop conch and i suspect that's why people don't like it, because it does something.

i don't see a problem with that. are you afraid of having to fight the worst class in the game? if someone runs a pyro to mid they're down a scout (maybe soldier?) and your scouts can always make mid faster (and completely kite the pyro). demos and soldiers too if they have good rollouts.

no i'm convinced it's just because it's a popular roamer item now. it has its counters but some of them are banned. and that brings up another set of problems. also i know unlocks have been banned in the past for that exact reason.

please don't ban conch just because it's popular. it would be fun to see widowmaker unbanned on the rare chance of an engie going huge. he'd only have 125 hp anyway, no wrangler so sentries are trivial, etc.

would like to see liberty and powerjack unbanned too.