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#223 December Global Whitelist Changes in TF2 General Discussion

If it came across that I said money was the only reason teams wanted to play then I've worded what I wanted to say wrong, tbh I did get sidetracked and didnt really say anything of substance.
80 euros per player is better than nothing so it is an incentive to an extent (this will change on a player to player basis). Obviously money would be a big reason if the prize pools were drastically different.

To be clear all I've wanted to say is that more unlocks will not grow the game. TF2 is past the stage of becoming big. I'm not saying it to harm the scene, I just think we are better off actually keeping the scene alive. In my opinion it could be done by having a global everything, whitelist and map pool but not with the intetion of hurr durr this will make casual players want to play. Its not even to drive them away as well. A big part of this comes down to the players wanting to improve as well.
Obviously Smash can be used as a counter argument to this, but still, in my opinion I just cant see tf2 getting the treatment smash got.

And yes Josh you are right. I dno about champ but yes lego and lowpander for sure has had an impact. However these are the only other teams apart from full tilt to have an impact.

posted about a year ago
#218 December Global Whitelist Changes in TF2 General Discussion

Its my opinion and I doubt it will change anything. If its wrong then fair enough. Just wanted to express my opinion.

posted about a year ago
#216 December Global Whitelist Changes in TF2 General Discussion

Its not even about the money, well it is to an extent. As you said its negligible the amount of money won buts its still an incentive. The main thing is there just isnt any competition for teams to get to that next level in terms of skill and to actually have the drive to push themselves to the next level.
No team in Europe, since full tilt, have posed such a threat to Se7en for them to actively go over stuff and be keen to fix their mistakes. Full tilt was a team that could take coudl regularly take maps off Se7en/Crowns. Yeah I know arctic foxes beat them in the grand finals that time but it was a Se7en who had no drive or anything they literally showed up to officials and that was it.
I'm not making excuses up for them losing to them, I can see why Se7en didnt practice that season and yeah it fucked them over but as I said it was a team which had no drive as there was no actual rivals for them to deem it necessary for them to be keen.
Around the time of last rewind, in my opinion was the last time Se7en gave a shit. i61 was going to be another time you would see an eu team be really fucking keen and strong but Froyo decided the smartest decision was to not attend.
Now the next rewind is soon, Froyo are attending and so is Se7en and guess what? Se7en are actually playing and preparing themselves for this as there is actually going to be some competition for them.

In the past things just seemed so much more organised, more keen and there was more drive to improve.
I know I've just used Se7en as an example but its the only team in europe thats been able to stick together and continuously improve.

posted about a year ago
#214 December Global Whitelist Changes in TF2 General Discussion
DwapkingT0metf2l becomes worse every season.
How come?

Legitimate question. I've only played one season.

I'm only going to go off prem as I honestly haven't looked at the other divisions in a long time. The best team in europe doesn't play etf2l currently. The incentive to play just isn't there so the effort put in is just non existent.
The actual games have become very sloppy and unorganised in my opinion. I'm not saying this like I'm really good and the teams I've played in have been perfect. They have been far from that and some were the worst offenders for sloppy play. Top teams from other games just seem to have much more of a drive and have much more incentives to put in the effort. Yeah its in their contracts and shit that they have to do this but still all of the top teams in any game which has had a shred of support and not the "just wait and see guys its gonna happen".
Se7en is the only team that gives off the impression that they don't just show up to scrims and officials and thats it and as I said before they don't even play etf2l atm, they might in the future for rewind practice but I'm not a mind reader it just makes sense for them to next season.

posted about a year ago
#211 December Global Whitelist Changes in TF2 General Discussion
MR_SLINYou guys are right, Valve is so slow at making changes that we shouldn't rely on them to grow our scene for us. I'm not advocating that we sit around and wait for them to help us.

What I'm saying is, there's more productive ways to grow the scene besides hating on Valve.

There's two camps:
1. People who think we shouldn't change anything in comp. They're happy with the game being small and hated by the casual community, and they want to continue excluding others to preserve the game they love so much. "The game is fine as is, let us play our game."

See this is what is ridiculous. People who are being realistic and not completely delusional are given such a bad name. No one has the opinion that they don't want new players to play etc. For sure an increased playerbase for comp would be great but its just not going happen. Having the old school whitelist wont bring in new players and this new whitelist also wont bring in new players.

Razer cups died, matchmaking died, faceit is dead, pugchamp is just the same aids every map, esea numbers are falling (invite doesnt even have the required teams atm unless 2 im teams follow through with b4nny's repayment thing he proposed), etf2l becomes worse every season. How many things are going to have to be tried and fail for people to realise its just not going to happen. Yes I know faceit is getting an update/refurbished.

People just want to play non aids tf2. This whole idea that people dont want new players and want a more severe whitelist so pyro mains can fuck off is just plain stupid. I'm tired of this idea that "valve are really listening guys things are going to change just you wait". I've played comp for 9 years now I've seen the attempts at getting tf2 bigger, I've seen the attempts at changing things its all just come to the same conclusions, failure. I'd love tf2 to be at the stage where I can stream all day and that would be my job but its simply not going to happen.

posted about a year ago
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posted about a year ago
#3 Comp pick-up games in TF2 General Discussion

tf2center until you learn whats actually going on and what to do etc. You'll only get drama or you wont get picked at all if you jump straight into pugchamp

posted about a year ago
#10 Class Change Nerf Idea in The Dumpster

will just slow the game down even further

posted about a year ago
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posted about a year ago
#150 December Global Whitelist Changes in TF2 General Discussion

So how many season has it been now since this idea of unbanning everything will encourage people to play comp tf2?
Numbers for leagues are still declining and fucking no one plays the actual matchmaking game mode. This whole if we unban the engie/pyro/heavy/spy will make the people who main those want to play 6s is just ridiculous. The game mode itself makes these classes pointless. Engie will get run over by everything, spy is easily counterable if u actually pay attention to the game, pyro will get run over by coordinated scouts. The argument for heavy might be there as there has been some success with muuki running it to mids but even then you can deal with it with some simple coordination.

People just dont wanna play competitive. How is this so hard to realise. Please just fucking give up with this bullshit as the numbers arent going to rise to where it actually means something. We are always going to be a small community. Tf2 is never ever ever going to be like dota/cs/lol/ow.

Can we just enjoy what we have and have a non aids whitelist?

posted about a year ago
#3 Leagues don't try new maps in TF2 General Discussion

Theres been no decent maps to include so whats the point?

I've played in the older seasons when there was freight, bazillion, obscure, logjam etc. The maps were fucking awful and I would have loved to have the map pool we have now back then. I would take reckoner any day over those maps and I fucking hate reckoner.

posted about a year ago
#112 lol b4nny in TF2 General Discussion

b4nny goes on about hating idiots etc yet comes across as the biggest idiot out there

posted about a year ago
#3 dogs in the EU in Off Topic

ur dog is awesome

posted about a year ago
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posted about a year ago
3006T0m3006T0mYou do realise that having a pyro will just mean no sacs from soldiers or anything. They will see the pyro then just play safe as fuck and run a sniper. Have fun covering all that ground to get to the sniper as pyro. Or they can just run 2 scouts into you and then ur just dead.
Then why does he go 13-1 playing pyro if peoples are so smart
Its a pug...
And the main conversation is about pugs

urm people are going on about changing the meta and I was saying theres no point changing it?

posted about a year ago
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