You honestly expected b4nny to have a shred of human compassion?

Try using a push to mute button. I know you said you go silent and that but you could just the push to mute when it gets bad and then u can let off some steam without disrupting everything then unmute and back to ownage

get some naphthenic acid and then palmitic acid, mix it with some gasoline and then u got napalm

https://youtu.be/9AOFZKPXp-8

called it

Boy I cant wait for the next arms race cs major or the next 10v10 dota major.

There is a good reason why one game mode is fully supported competitively in games.

of course. you forgot about me choking as well tho

probs skeej or smirre

No need for massive changes to second like that. Granary just needed a few small changes to make it less aids than it was like rc8 seems good enough.

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best map pool in years

If it came across that I said money was the only reason teams wanted to play then I've worded what I wanted to say wrong, tbh I did get sidetracked and didnt really say anything of substance.
80 euros per player is better than nothing so it is an incentive to an extent (this will change on a player to player basis). Obviously money would be a big reason if the prize pools were drastically different.

To be clear all I've wanted to say is that more unlocks will not grow the game. TF2 is past the stage of becoming big. I'm not saying it to harm the scene, I just think we are better off actually keeping the scene alive. In my opinion it could be done by having a global everything, whitelist and map pool but not with the intetion of hurr durr this will make casual players want to play. Its not even to drive them away as well. A big part of this comes down to the players wanting to improve as well.
Obviously Smash can be used as a counter argument to this, but still, in my opinion I just cant see tf2 getting the treatment smash got.

And yes Josh you are right. I dno about champ but yes lego and lowpander for sure has had an impact. However these are the only other teams apart from full tilt to have an impact.

Its my opinion and I doubt it will change anything. If its wrong then fair enough. Just wanted to express my opinion.

Its not even about the money, well it is to an extent. As you said its negligible the amount of money won buts its still an incentive. The main thing is there just isnt any competition for teams to get to that next level in terms of skill and to actually have the drive to push themselves to the next level.
No team in Europe, since full tilt, have posed such a threat to Se7en for them to actively go over stuff and be keen to fix their mistakes. Full tilt was a team that could take coudl regularly take maps off Se7en/Crowns. Yeah I know arctic foxes beat them in the grand finals that time but it was a Se7en who had no drive or anything they literally showed up to officials and that was it.
I'm not making excuses up for them losing to them, I can see why Se7en didnt practice that season and yeah it fucked them over but as I said it was a team which had no drive as there was no actual rivals for them to deem it necessary for them to be keen.
Around the time of last rewind, in my opinion was the last time Se7en gave a shit. i61 was going to be another time you would see an eu team be really fucking keen and strong but Froyo decided the smartest decision was to not attend.
Now the next rewind is soon, Froyo are attending and so is Se7en and guess what? Se7en are actually playing and preparing themselves for this as there is actually going to be some competition for them.

In the past things just seemed so much more organised, more keen and there was more drive to improve.
I know I've just used Se7en as an example but its the only team in europe thats been able to stick together and continuously improve.

I'm only going to go off prem as I honestly haven't looked at the other divisions in a long time. The best team in europe doesn't play etf2l currently. The incentive to play just isn't there so the effort put in is just non existent.
The actual games have become very sloppy and unorganised in my opinion. I'm not saying this like I'm really good and the teams I've played in have been perfect. They have been far from that and some were the worst offenders for sloppy play. Top teams from other games just seem to have much more of a drive and have much more incentives to put in the effort. Yeah its in their contracts and shit that they have to do this but still all of the top teams in any game which has had a shred of support and not the "just wait and see guys its gonna happen".
Se7en is the only team that gives off the impression that they don't just show up to scrims and officials and thats it and as I said before they don't even play etf2l atm, they might in the future for rewind practice but I'm not a mind reader it just makes sense for them to next season.