That was infact, the only single "what if" thing I have said in any of my posts. Can you point out another?

You also dodged my main point with that "asinine scenario" that could have easily been reality. I did point out several facts, you on the other hand have said nothing of substance related to what happened to this guy.

Right, because you know me so well. I am not some 15 year old who plays TF2 all day and posts on the boards for fun. I have been in several potentially fatal situations in my life, I have been in jail so I have first hand experience with police on this level.

If you want to go around listening to the media all day and let them determine your opinions for you, then that is your right. Never once did I say police brutality does not happen.

If this guy would have pulled out a gun and accidentally shot a little kid instead of the police, you and others in the media would be the first people to point that same finger at the police and say "Why did they wait so long to get him in cuffs?".

Essentially most view points are simple based on what is popular at the moment. The media is a perfect example. Anything that has popular opinion is the view point media will support because they fear the backlash on a business level. Media never goes against popular opinion but they are very quick to add fuel to any fire.

I don't allow emotions or the opinions of others to make my decisions. I look at the facts and do it for myself.

You should watch the whole video of this incident and not just the 10 second edit showing the takedown and choke hold. For at least 3-5 minutes ,prior to the physical stuff, the police were simply talking and giving instructions. The police were not being aggressive in any manner. This guy was getting more and more agitated as the seconds passed. When people act that way, it raises the tension level for everyone involved. He could snap and go for a weapon at any second.

Like I said before. If he was innocent (and he may well have been), then he should have taken them to court and got paid. At most, he would have been taken to the police station and detained for a few hours and let go. You can't fight or resist arrest on the spot, it is NEVER going to work and it has NOTHING to do with his skin color.

When the police have determined you have to be detained or arrested for whatever reason, they do not have to sit around and wait for you to decide when you want to be arrested. They have a job to do and it is dangerous and can cost a life in a moments notice. If you show resistance during the process, you are going to be forcefully detained. Go watch the whole video and face the facts, this guy resisted arrest.

Ok, I understand that 95% of the ppl here and on the news just want to bash the police because it is convenient. This is what I see.

1- The police were there cause he was supposedly caught doing something illegal.
2- He was going to get arrested on that basis. He knew that fact and so did the police.
3- At this point, the police have 1 objective, and that is to subdue the criminal and get him in handcuffs before he can do anything dangerous.
4- That does NOT mean there is any discussion required between the police and the criminal so he can get arrested at his leisure.
5- He made a (fatal) decision to resist arrest by saying "Don't Touch me" over and over. His better choice would have been to get arrested and call his lawyer.
6- His saying "I can't breathe" over and over is one of many overused things people say when police need to get physical with criminals. Most times people complain about one thing or another wrong with their body when that happens. It is akin to "crying wolf" since everyone does it all the time.

The bottom line is, police can't take chances with anyone these days. Look at it from the police point of view. This guy could have a hidden weapon at any place on his person. Until the police get him in cuffs and searched, he is a potential threat.

This guy's death was unfortunate and was totally avoidable. His decision to resist arrest is the major issue. His Asthma and overweight body contributed heavily to his death as well. If he was innocent, it can be proven in court, then he can sue and get paid. On the street, you can't argue with police in these situations. You have to pick your battles and play things smart. This guy made a mistake and caused a physical confrontation that his medical issues could not handle causing his death.

When you resist arrest you are inviting trouble for yourself. In these cases they got death.

When an officer, or in the NYC case a group of officers, tells you to do something. Just fucking listen.

The time to tell your side will come but not until they have removed you from being a threat. It is really plain and simple to understand.

No

Since the start of the human race, we been advancing our weapons. From picking up a rock and throwing it at someone to using a strong animal bone as a club. As a species we have always looked for a better weapon and we likely always will. If you took all the guns away, we would find something else.

You're right, black/white and every corner of the globe riot for one reason or another. Perhaps the only difference in his analogy was that in all 4 of his examples there were likely a total of 0 gunshots at the "white riots". Ferguson had what?...150+ in 2 hours? very chilled

Alosec is an extremely underrated medic. Provided the rest of this team can gel together, you have a very solid open squad.

Marxist, everything you are saying in your posts sounds like what you would hear from a seminar on civil unrest from a speaker who doesn't have a clue how things work on the streets and would be refered to as "book smart".

Have you ever been in a life threatening situation with weapons involved? I have on several occasions and while I have not killed anyone yet I do know how it feels in those situations. You don't sit back and think things over like a classroom. You react on your training and your mental makeup, it is that simple. Hindsight is fantastic for the biased news media and the classroom. Both can afford to fan the flames and sit back and watch the results. When you are on the street and in action like this it is kill or be killed. It is really no more complex than that. The jury saw the FACTS, not the EMOTIONS of the incident.

Mike Brown picked a fight with a white cop who had training and a gun. He make a huge mistake and paid the price. Get over it.

I live in Philadelphia and I was at Broad Street for this. Every fucking ghetto in the city rolled out for this "celebration" so don't even try and say this was a "white" riot. Were you there? I don't think you were, so sit the fuck down.

Any competent backup that plays with us consistently leading into the season will not have to pay fees if asked to cover a starters spot in matches.

If interested, you are especially guaranteed to see lots of playing time in this next month.

When I miss an extremely easy shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0iRbfxPpVY

I am happy to see this change. Thank you ESEA

Bump , still interested in playing on a weekly basis right away.

I see often how people "talk up" demo's who have awesome pipe aim. I see often it really is just talk.

Avast is one of the exceptions. When specing him throughout the season, he amazed me with his aim and DM ability quite often. A fantastic pickup for any team that needs a demo.