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#269 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayer.......................

I could really just keep thinking of scenario after scenario where transgender people could cause quite a disruption in rest rooms and locker rooms.

And this pretty much sums up your entire nonsensical argument. You just sit there and imagine up scenarios where it could cause an issue, while ignoring reality. By reading your post you get the idea of OMG HOW COULD TRANS PEOPLE IN BATHROOMS EVER WORK, ignoring the fact that it has already worked perfectly fine for years. I don't even have to deconstruct your shitty arguments because reality has already done the job for me

posted about 8 years ago
#267 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster

Really, the "OMG THINK OF THE WOMEN" falls apart immediately when you look at the actual stats of violence of people abusing gender laws vs violence towards trans.

If you actually cared about reducing sexual violence then there's only one position you can take, and you are on the wrong side of the issue.

posted about 8 years ago
#229 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_handif you can find studies to support this I will give that idea a chance

lmao

sheepy_dogs_handok im tired and can't be bothered so ill just say again what I said from the start. I do think that having straight parents has certain benefits considering being heterosexual has certain benefits. I have seen studies that say one thing and others that say something else and even so there is no way to prove any of this. I think having a father is a benefit compared to having 2 mothers because it's good to have a father figure and I do not think it is homophobic to think this like people here are saying.

how quickly we went from that to "WELL THERES NO WAY TO PROVE ANYTHING SO IM JUST GONNA BELEIVE WHAT I BELIEVE"

posted about 8 years ago
#228 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
dollarlayerWe have some obvious liberals and then some people that fall more on the conservative side of the political spectrum (at least in regards to this subject). When a liberal disagrees with a conservative poster When a person makes an extremely poorly reasoned argument often times there are some direct attacks and name calling. Such as "you're an idiot" or "you have no brain" or "you are a retard."

I try to avoid name calling but its exceedingly hard when people do incredible things like post articles that state exactly the opposite of what they are claiming it says

dollarlayerConservatives are labeled as being intolerant racists bigots for not accepting that being transsexual is not normal and doesn't require any mental treatment or therapy for having intolerant, racist opinions

dont wanna get called a racist/bigot etc, dont post racist/bigoted stuff

dollarlayerThe same liberals however are ironically being intolerant for not accepting that someone else may have a varying opinion on the subject and a varying idea on how to treat the individual.

"People who criticize _______ are the real _______!"

Please. heard it all before. You want to spout stupid stuff and not be criticized about it. Yawn.

dollarlayerThe liberals want to ban people and tell them to stop posting when the post a valid argument which they are unable to refute in many cases.

l m a o

posted about 8 years ago
#220 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_hand
Yes this doesn't prove anything about me being wrong about heterosexual marriages being better for a child growing up. I could probably find other studies because it seems logical to me.

1. It proves your claim has no scientific basis and is instead a product of your own preconceived biases

sheepy_dogs_handYou are trying to argue that homosexual marriages and heterosexual marriages are exactly the same and it make's no difference how many mothers or fathers you have, if you can find studies to support this I will give that idea a chance but from my own sense and research it seems like you are wrong about this.

2.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00678.x/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=userIsAuthenticated=false
and a direct link to the article
http://faculty.law.miami.edu/mcoombs/documents/Stacey_Biblarz.pdf

note that this is a meta-analysis of multiple studies

studyToward this end, we examined the findings of 21 psychological studies (listed at the bottom of the Table 1)
published between 1981 and 1998 that we considered best equipped to address sociological questions about how
parental sexual orientation matters to chil- dren. One meta-analysis of 18 such studies (11 of which are included among our 21) characteristically concludes that"the results demonstrate no differences on any measures between the
heterosexual and homosexual parents regarding parenting styles, emotional adjustment, and sexual orientation of the
child(ren)
posted about 8 years ago
#211 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_hand
I disagree, I don't think a few scientists disagreeing with it means it isn't true.

at least 150 scientists and literally the journal it was published in considering it later published an audit saying the original study should have never made it through peer review and a counter study that concluded the original study was flawed

posted about 8 years ago
#200 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_handEdit: Here http://i.imgur.com/k93IyxS.png I was right in thinking that having homosexual parents can have a negative impact in certain areas for a child growing up. So can you explain how this has anything to do with "hating gays"

i love the "you post a shitty study and i refute it" game

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Family_Structures_Study

"Cynthia Osborne, who is on the UT-Austin faculty along with Regnerus, argued the study was unable to show "whether same-sex parenting causes the observed differences."[1] She also said that "Children of lesbian mothers might have lived in many different family structures, and it is impossible to isolate the effects of living with a lesbian mother from experiencing divorce, remarriage or living with a single parent."[1] Similarly, Gary Gates of the Williams Institute argued that the study's comparison of children of lesbian mothers was a less fair comparison than, for instance, comparing "children of heterosexual or same-sex couples who were raised in similar homes".[1]

Several writers criticized Regnerus' study for classifying children as being raised by gay parents merely if one of their parents ever had a same-sex relationship until the child turned 18.[9][10] Additionally, Regnerus himself acknowledged that other factors might explain the differences observed in his study, including "...a lack of social support for parents, stress exposure resulting from persistent stigma, and modest or absent legal security for their parental and romantic relationship statuses."[11] In the July 2015 issue of Social Science Research, Cheng and Powell reanalyzed the data from Regnerus' study and found numerous potential measurement errors, and concluded that Regnerus' conclusions were due to these errors "and other methodological choices"

In July 2012, over 150 scientists wrote a letter to the editor of Social Science Research criticizing the study and raising concerns about the journal's peer review process.[4] In the November 2012 issue of the journal, an audit was published by Darren Sherkat of Southern Illinois University regarding the peer-review process with respect to the Regnerus study (as well as another study from the same issue). The audit concluded that the peer-review process failed in these instances because of “both ideology and inattention” by the reviewers; he added that of the six reviewers, three of them were on record as opposing same-sex marriage.[16] Sherkat also dismissed the study as "bullshit" in an interview and argued that its definition of gay fathers and lesbian mothers should have “disqualified it immediately” from being considered for publication.[17]

second study refuting the first
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0049089X1500085X

posted about 8 years ago
#197 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
sheepy_dogs_handI'm sorry but a picture of a married couple with writing over it saying "Marriage" does not have anything to do with hating gay people. You should find something that actually says they're against gay people before calling them out.

lest there be any more doubt about the "FAMILY POLICY institute of washington"

http://www.fpiw.org/resources/#toggle-id-8

Look at the articles on same sex marriage, featuring great articles such as
"What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality?" and
"How Same-Sex Marriage Threatens Freedom"

also

http://equalitymatters.org/blog/201202030004
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/02/26/washington-state-anti-lgbt-group-launches-campa/208831

posted about 8 years ago
#143 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster

To add on to my last post, this is what an ACTUAL pediatrician group has to say on the issue

http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2016/02/24/peds.2015-3223

note that the membership of ACPeds is estimated at around 200 people while the membership of APP is 60,000 with a staff of 400

posted about 8 years ago
#139 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
solainteresting read, sex change for children is classified as abuse for pediatricians http://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children

ah yes
ACPEDS

all you really need to do is do two seconds of research about them really people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_College_of_Pediatricians

"The ACPeds letter to the superintendents primarily addressed same-sex attraction, and recommended that “well-intentioned but misinformed school personnel” who encourage students to “come out as gay” and affirm them as such may lead the students into “harmful homosexual behaviors that they otherwise would not pursue"

Clearly a non-biased organization

posted about 8 years ago
#135 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
Nub_DanishLsRainbowsNub_Danishhttp://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=79
i have more sources saying essentially the same thing about the relevance of race in medicine if you wanna get past the first paragraph of any of them

Are you trolling? This paper also says there's no basis for biological racial difference...like its right there in the title

I refuse to believe someone is seriously this dumb
it supports the idea of differences based on ancestry not just black, white, yellow etc which supports the arrangement I've made that people are not inherently equal and your ancestry not race in the traditional sense does mean that people are genetically superior and inferior from one another not necessarily based on the race as in skin color and what not because race is not specific enough

this is a far cry from what you said earlier

Nub_Danishraces can be genetically superior to one another this is correct

But no, that paper is literally saying that race is a social construct, from the first paragraph to the last, perhaps you were confused by the wording?? i know words are hard

"As a biological rather than a social construct, “race” has ceased to be seen as a fundamental reality characterizing the human species. "

"If it were admitted that the category of “race” is a purely social construct, however, it would have a weakened legitimacy. Thus, there have been repeated attempts to reassert the objective biological reality of human racial categories despite the evidence to the contrary."

posted about 8 years ago
#125 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster
Nub_Danishhttp://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=79
i have more sources saying essentially the same thing about the relevance of race in medicine if you wanna get past the first paragraph of any of them

Are you trolling? This paper also says there's no basis for biological racial difference...like its right there in the title

I refuse to believe someone is seriously this dumb

posted about 8 years ago
#114 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster

The "white race" has done many shitty things too, but i bet you aren't rushing to take credit or feel pride for those things

posted about 8 years ago
#106 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster

BTW that dumb ass study was not intended to show whether transitioning was an effective treatment for transitioning or not

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

IN THAT VERY STUDY

" It does not, however, address whether sex reassignment is an effective treatment or not."

" Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group."

Note the word suffice. That does not mean we get rid of the treatment, only improve it!

"For the purpose of evaluating whether sex reassignment is an effective treatment for gender dysphoria, it is reasonable to compare reported gender dysphoria pre and post treatment. Such studies have been conducted either prospectively or retrospectively, and suggest that sex reassignment of transsexual persons improves quality of life and gender dysphoria"

another study showing that 95 percent of individuals who transitioned report positive life outcomes as a result.

https://www.skane.se/Upload/Webbplatser/USIL/Dokument/Sjukhusbibliotek/Johansson,%20Annika.pdf

more studies showing acceptance is what affects suicide rates

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2265.2009.03625.x/abstract?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20461468

more studies in favor of gender assignment

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/262734734_An_Analysis_of_All_Applications_for_Sex_Reassignment_Surgery_in_Sweden_1960-2010_Prevalence_Incidence_and_Regrets

http://www.cakeworld.info/transsexualism/what-helps/srs

BUT WHAT ABOUT REGRET

"Surgical regret is actually very uncommon. Virtually every modern study puts it below 4 percent, and most estimate it to be between 1 and 2 percent"

http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=-qtlZDCMAZ4C&oi=fnd&pg=PR7&dq=transgenderism+and+intersexuality+in+childhood+and+adolescence&ots=A4yTHR-Fvd&sig=n8CXw7NhWSbNS33fsgam3XGu1PQ#v=onepage&q=transgenderism%20and%20intersexuality%20in%20childhood%20and%20adolescence&f=false

http://www.iiav.nl/ezines/web/ijt/97-03/numbers/symposion/ijtc0502.htm

bla bla bla
even more sourced studies here
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/myths-about-transition-regrets_b_6160626.html

posted about 8 years ago
#94 Watch: College Kids idea of identity in The Dumpster

wow i sure love reasonable discussions on the topic of gender

hoolipeople don't always know what's best for them and the argument of "I want it so it's good for me." is not very sound.

you apparently know whats best for them

hooliI don't claim to have a solution, just that we should try to treat it rather than enable it.

Yes, the solution and treatment of gender dysphoria is transitioning.

posted about 8 years ago
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