rcrsvsDid i miss it? :(
Just barely, sorry! We'll be around next week!
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rcrsvsDid i miss it? :(
Just barely, sorry! We'll be around next week!
Thanks for playing guys! If you have any frag-clip moments, please post them in the demo call section in our steam group. Consider donating to REALTourney's next event (http://teamfortress.tv/thread/21721/real-mge-2v2-tournament-2015/?page=1)
Here are the placements:
1st place: TFTV #61 Watermelon Spacejam
2nd place: TFTV #20 corsa & nursey
3rd place: TFTV #97 #FreeWarMachine
4th place: TFTV #47 Matthew DeLisi
5th place tie:
TFTV #68 Mom's Spaghetti
TFTV #80 GrantnarG
7th place tie:
TFTV #66 connor blows
TFTV #33 figsy & ggglygy
9th place tie:
TFTV #56 The Meme Team
TFTV #29 TeavC
TFTV #32 slapchat
TFTV #99 Ibby & Mausy
13th place tie:
TFTV #75 Nick & Geknaiir
TFTV #43 BIG BOYS
TFTV #48 CJ & Yeremy
TFTV #52 chillhop.com
17th place tie:
TFTV #51 GUMBO MOBSTERS
TFTV #12 asianriceguy & caboose
TFTV #14 Keywork eSports
TFTV #16 HONG KONG KIDS
TFTV #65 its n0t even Equestrian
TFTV #81 "Alien vs. Predator vs. Brown vs. Board of Education"
TFTV #86 I'm literally playing with my cousin.
TFTV #58 ultiduo players xd
25th place tie:
TFTV #13 redc & evil mrmuffinz
TFTV #72 brown boy wonder and friend love hii
TFTV #55 Danerzdz & Rick
TFTV #70 Dangerous Dudes
TFTV #102 We will Finnish you
TFTV #44 tony jawk's hospital flip on control point
TFTV #53 Thigh High Socks
TFTV #63 Blanc Esports
33rd place tie:
TFTV #36 paddie & overseer
TFTV #54 gruesome twosome
TFTV #21 cody & Aurora
TFTV #26 MadHucksurious
TFTV #104 High Five Me
TFTV #27 Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
TFTV #82 the maddest and the baddest
TFTV #60 clockwork & blaze
TFTV #78 Team Booty Tang
TFTV #95 ec2evoQckHW
TFTV #106 35th Infantry Gaming
TFTV #50 C9
TFTV #87 br0, where you at?
TFTV #100 alfa sucks
TFTV #57 caffine crew
TFTV #105 LIPS
49th place tie:
TFTV #15 homo homies
TFTV #64 fuck we hate 14 year olds
TFTV #18 ed & newspeak
TFTV #71 Ya Boys
TFTV #76 GaTr & Tenna
TFTV #34 Waifus Are People Too
TFTV #49 Aquatic Gaming
TFTV #84 im dead medic is lit
TFTV #89 immigration enforcement
TFTV #37 *:??? sanDalf
TFTV #98 Shoot the Breeze
TFTV #88 mark dice and the goons
Thanks to a really generous donation by Karabear and a few smaller donations (notably alkaline among others), the prizepot is sitting at around 220 dollars and some keys. I'd like for the prize pot to be more comparable to the ultiduo prize pot, so if you have a cash or key donation (big or small) please hit me up on steam or tftv to talk about it.
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Rules and brackets posted! Good luck guys.
If you haven't sent me your payments (non esea/ cevo players) or your collateral (esea or cevo players), please do that within a few days.
Brackets: http://challonge.com/REAL2v2MGE2015
Rules: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19UmCRZeM3dTMneiBsnBQZYAEfqcAWH6mzUbkhwS7LjE/pub
I know it's hard to see the calendar right now. The first round of the challonge bracket (only three matches) must be played by this coming Wednesday night.
Koobadoobslvl4u have noticed how ESEA is likeUGC has hired three new admins specifically for their 6v6 division. Expect big changes over the coming months.
incredibly lazy and not at all good at anything right
ur best bet is to get UGC to funnel Plat and gold UGC teams into open as a sponsorship program where they get 3 matches a week or something
that'd actually be good and fun and finally make UGC useful, but UGC is just as incompetent and lazy as ESEA so like whatev
Will any of us recognize any of the names of these admins? I'm not trying to be mean but rather realistic. What will be different?
DreamerKevinIsPwnThat's basically what has been said over and over in this thread except for some reason you think it's a good thing. If the only way to counter a weapon is for the other team to use that weapon then the meta shrinks. So despite having a broader whitelist, the meta is shrunk. This happens with a lot of the weapons that are in the game, they just aren't designed for competitive.
I'm not sure where you got that I think it is a good thing. I am in complete agreeance with you. I believe most unlocks make the game less interesting because they slow the game down and force other people to run certain strategies that are usually less fun to watch and to play.
I feel like 6s is more akin to traditional sports in how strategies develop. The rules stay relatively constant and no new mechanics are introduced and yet you still see evolution in the game. I don't really understand why everything nowadays has to follow the "include a million items and characters" when it comes to esports just because that's what works in Dota/LoL.
Okay, I guess I misread oops.
DreamerFrost_BiteRadmanWhat does "not competitive" even mean to you guys? I'm seeing it used to describe any mode that doesn't happen to be your favorite.It means that the format doesn't have the same skill ceiling as sixes. When discussing TF2 unlocks in particular, this is because tf2 unlocks become a game of weighted rock paper scissors with a million different combinations that turns the game into a complete guessing game.
Most players here would rather reward strong dm, good teamwork, and correct positioning than happening to guess the correct unlock to deal with your opponents'. The sixes gamemode and whitelist is the one that is most effective at doing this.
The quickfix for example was countered just as well by the quickfix, and not just the kritz.
That's basically what has been said over and over in this thread except for some reason you think it's a good thing. If the only way to counter a weapon is for the other team to use that weapon then the meta shrinks. So despite having a broader whitelist, the meta is shrunk. This happens with a lot of the weapons that are in the game, they just aren't designed for competitive.
micspamReposting what I said on the reddit thread:
What I think everyone can agree on is this, comp tf2 in its current state isn't working to the degree which we all want. I believe that this isn't a White-list issue, its not a 'meta' issue, its not even a gamemode issue, its a money issue. There is no money entering the scene so players aren't willing to compromise on competitiveness so no money enters the scene.
If eXtine's plans for creating sponsored LANs in the PNW work, and people start making money, what you'll see is that money talks and players will be willing to compromise on their beliefs about competitiveness. The only way this works, is if someway, A:R or not, comp TF2 becomes fun to spectate. And odds are, the mode that people will be willing to watch the most, isn't going to be the most competitive.
I responded to your full post on reddit with a video because I'm busy with IRL stuff and tournament stuff.
FrootalooWhat did you guys do for new years?
I added people to groups for a 2v2 mge tournament and worked on brackets
FrootalooWhat are you going to do?
School and video games (in that order)
Okay, everyone who's URL is posted in this thread got invited to a group that I'll be sending out alerts to over the course of the tournament. Remember that everyone is required to pay 2 keys to play in this tournament. If you were in ESEA last season and you play all of your matches on time, you will get these 2 keys back when you finish the tournament.
To pay the fee/ collateral, send me a trade offer here: https://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=67060201&token=E9edW9ve
Along with the trade request, please past a link to your trade offer and the number of our TFTV thread. I'd prefer to get both keys from one person, but I will deal with it if people don't want to do that. To get your trade offer link, follow this short step tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c7BuytNR_s
Brackets will start with a few teams playing an extra round tomorrow, then everyone will start playing next week. Check for a challonge link tomorrow afternoon!
Did you just recommend we make tf2 a reality show?
bastidKevinIsPwnNonono, it's a straight upgrade from stock in any form of competitive. As a heavy in 6s, you will never pull out your melee, meaning you'll never deal with any of the negatives of GRU, meaning it's a straight upgrade.
Yeah, and? Not like his Fists are balanced
Yes it... is. What?
bastidKevinIsPwnI can't tell if this is a troll or not because that's really not a reasonable thing to say but neither are the other things in your post.
It's the truth, but since you're on the inside it's not apparent to you.
You say that like actually playing competitive tf2 disqualifies me from having an opinion on competitive tf2, which is really really really stupid, sorry that's just the truth. Me being "on the inside" isn't like some sort of mental disease. I understand how this game works from the stance of a 6v6 player, HL gold player, and a fanatic pubber (yeah i still like pubs and unlocks a lot). Maybe I don't understand as much as some, but I know enough to call out ignorance when I see it. And calling the GRU balanced in a competitive format is stubborn and ignorant.
bastidI mean just by definition... the way the rules are set up it is most definitely a hugbox. Soldier gets his funstick but Heavy doesn't get his fungloves, because everyone in the hugbox plays Soldier and no one plays Heavy...see? No hurt feelings and baby gets his rattle.
Except I told you why one of those weapons was balanced and the other one isn't so that's a completely invalid example.
bastidAnd for A:R: Of course it hasn't been played competitively at a high level - It's new. Oh except for those casted matches with the high level players
The majority of players that played in those pugs said they were fun but that it wouldn't work out at a high level of competitive with anything on the line.
SIGNUPS CLOSED BEYOND THIS POINT
No more signups guys, sorry. I'll be sending info to everyone signed up soon (tonight or tomorrow), and the first few matches will be played starting January 1st!
Bastid:
bastidKevinIsPwnDid you hear yourself say that? There is no downside to running GRU on heavy over stock. You run with it during rollout and don't switch when you're at mid and you get to mid with your team for no downsides. Which makes it OP.
It's overpowered compared to the underpowered existing options (minus FOS I guess). By itself it's fine, Heavies don't make big impacts at mid anyway, any good team can focus fire them down, as has been demonstrated in the recent showmatches.
Nonono, it's a straight upgrade from stock in any form of competitive. As a heavy in 6s, you will never pull out your melee, meaning you'll never deal with any of the negatives of GRU, meaning it's a straight upgrade.
bastidAlso isn't Escape Plan the same thing?
That's a bit of a streth imo. Soldiers much more regularly use their melee, so the downsides are more apparent. Also, soldiers would get to mid just as fast without the upgrade, maybe with a bit lower health. Midfights aside, you can't use escape plan to get to transition fights after respawn without a risk of dying, but GRU is pretty safe. I just listed the easiest to visualize issue with GRU, and the one extine mentioned in the vlog.
bastidKevinIsPwnWHY WOULD YOU WANT THAT? There are people that have devoted 1000s of hours to this game why the FUCK would you want random shitters to replace them? I'm sure your youtube audience loves to hear that, but like... that just sounds like a really stupid idea. You can do the local thing with good players...
Random shitters = new players???
I'm all about bringing new players into the game. I coach/admin newbie mixes, I talk to people about competitive (6v6, hl, and even 4v4), I try my best to promote people to try competitive with my tournaments, etc. But in terms of spectating, yes that's exactly what I'm saying. If you've ever watched a UGC 6v6 cast or low level UGC HL cast you'd understand.
bastidKevinIsPwnBecause that version of tf2 is the one we can play 5 nights a week 3 hours a night without having fucking aneurysms and killing ourselves.
This must mean 6s is an anti-competitive hugbox :)
I can't tell if this is a troll or not because that's really not a reasonable thing to say but neither are the other things in your post.
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eXtineKevinIsPwn ... any competitive format that plays with the "meta" (see: random silliness and stupidity) will be taken seriously by no one, valve included.
Valve eXplicitly told me they'd like to see a competitive format more in tune with their meta.
They said that years ago why are you all of a sudden trying so hard to change it now rather than then? Also I feel like changing from something we (most of us) all love to something we're (most of us) all skeptical of isn't the best of ideas.
eXtineKevinIsPwnit's not a competitive form of tf2
We take 5 people we put them up against 5 people. How is that not a competition? You're welcome to the opinion that 6s is MORE competitve, but A:R is definitely a competitive format.
What I meant by saying that is that it's not a format that has been played competitively at a high level (and never will be with your/PBL's current plan).
eXtineKevinIsPwnThere's no reason you have to switch the entire structure of competitive tf2 so you can have your 20-person burnsider lan.
That's pretty much what I was trying to say with my Vlog and dispel the idea that I'm trying to force everyone to adopt A:R over 6s. I'm hoping we can build up passion for TF2 and establish local groups through A:R, I'm not trying to dictate how you should play the game.
That's not at all what the vlog came off as. Regardless of your intent (which a very small fraction of your youtube audience will see), the vlog came off as a "we need to do this as a community together" type thing. The fact that you tell users actively that you think UGC 6s is something they should support shows just how disconnected you are from the community you claim to represent.
At this point it honestly (and this might seem harsh) seems like you're desperately clinging to the notion that this will work out in a way that Valve accepts it and it becomes big and you're able to make this league a big thing that you're able to work with full time. And to claim this last bit of hope you have to make tf2 a "real esport" or whatever you're willing to destroy what this fantastic community has built up over the past 6 years.
And you can say "you do your thing" all you want to save face on the forums that a few hundred people read but that means literally nothing when you just made a vlog for your 100,000+ youtube subscribers denouncing 6v6 and supporting a new, unproven format in a foreign game mode.
I'm really appreciative of all you've done for this community. You (along with Salamancer) were one of the driving recruiters for competitive back when I started playing, and you convinced me to hop on a 6s team in late 2012. But sometimes it's good to know when your goals are fogging up your view of the present and tampering with your ability to see a reasonable future ahead, especially when your view has so much influence on the view of others.