kKaltUuCollaidecan we force head admins from different leagues to talk to each other somehow ?
What would that result in?
Hopefully a compromise
kKaltUuin the past few years ETF2L has reached out to other leagues for different cooperation projects. In those talks, everyone always sticks to their rulesets and map pool.
Then why is this? People being unable to a) make a compromise or b) finding the best ruleset? Either way it's an inconvenience that we probably dont' want or need.
kKaltUuIt's something that defines a league and their own player base has shaped up over the years.
Why can we not have a map pool and a ruleset that defines the player base of the entire community? I thought we wanted to expand our communities not isolate them.
kKaltUuI get what you're saying, but SOP for a league is listen to their own players. Not to the competition.
Sure etf2l and esea might be competing with ugc (at least in lower levels of play) but they're not competing with leagues in other continents, which is what the problems is. I'm sure if all asiafortress, ozfortress, etf2l and esea used the same ruleset and mappool ugc would adapt it as well.
rhKCollaidecan we force head admins from different leagues to talk to each other somehow ?
The problem with this is we try to accommodate our own region.
Because people generally don't like change? Who would have thought.
rhKI may be wrong here as I am not in Euro; but if a very large portion of the community wanted the NA rule set, I'm sure they could talk to the admins and try and get it changed.
Correct me if I'm wrong but ESEA rules are harder to change than etf2l rules. ETF2L have been changing maps and unbanning lots of weapons recently, I don't really see the same things happening in ESEA. This is (imo) the reason why I've personally heard NA players complain about the ruleset more than I've heard EU players complain.
Playing 2 different maps for a match rather than 1 also assures us that your team doesn't get lucky. Maybe ur the best team at all maps except reckoner, and then you play 1 map against a team who is better than you on reckoner. This can seem unfair since overall, you're the better team. In EU there would be 2 maps in that week, thus making sure that the best team can at least secure a draw.
rhKThe AU rule set was very similar to the NA rules in previous seasons but a large portion of the scene wasn't happy with it so we changed it in OWL12 iirc.
So you guys didn't like NA rules what makes you think europeans would like to switch to it? Sure if everyone in the community wanted change it would be MORE LIKELY to happen.
rhKHaving all the league admins together wont solve much. It needs to be the community as a whole that makes a obvious choice between the 2 rule sets.
As I previously have said, and I know this is anecdotal, I've heard more complaints from NA than any other region about the ruleset, so why are they not changing it?
rhKAs GJon stated, NA have a client that also provides some difficulty to change rules and but I don't think this means we should default to NA rules because they can't change it.
And here we have the problem.