For anyone ignorant to passtime, if any hitscan class hits the jack for any point of damage it immediately goes neutral, and while neutral it can't score, therefore anything short of dunking the ball is easily denied which takes away from the skill of being a defender and makes it less fun for offensive players. This was the main reason that in 4v4 passtime we banned shotgun on soldier and ruled out scout.

if i downfrag can i extend his ban?

You should contact Jaguarfiend about this as we've have been experimenting with Passtime for over a year now. We did lots of testing with many different versions of passtime with many different class limits and many different weapon restrictions. He's even created his own custom map that gets play tested almost every week on Saturday at 10 est.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/jaguarfiend/

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/4v4PassTime

Some of the biggest issues we came across were allot like 6's in that inherent classes made the game unfun for others. Passtime inherently needs open spaces to allow for teamplay but in order to achieve this sniper sight lines become huge. Trying to score past an engineer and a heavy is also annoying. Whats more heavies can run at scout speed as long as they stay withing the range of their scout holding the ball/jack, Using high movement classes to try and traverse ground and stop ball carriers proves futile if they have a heavy ready to deny them. Once more Krits after capture is an annoying thing to deal with. these are some of many issues inherent with stock valve passtime.

On jag's current map there are only 3 classes allowed (gunboats soldier, demoknight, and uber medic). there are hard weapon restrictions as to make it not mega aids. And through this after lots of play testing a meta has even formed in terms of play styles and roles. view videos below for more info.

https://clips.twitch.tv/AntsyInventiveCatPoooound

link anyone?

I wonder why....

on the other hand,

Newbie Mixes is a group that has been alive for many years now, helping people get into 6v6. Basically every Friday we organize new players into pugs with a mentor and they play the pug getting feedback from the mentor.

These last 2 seasons we've also had the newbie drive which allows players to sign up and be a part of a team in ESEA open. You will be given a season long mentor and some help with ESEA fees. Many very good players ranging between High Open-Invite this last season got their start on a Newbie Mixes open team. If you plan on playing the official valve chosen format and extend from either pubs, valve matchmaking or lobbies, please consider joining the group and showing up to Newbie Mixes every Friday starting at 9 pm est.

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/na6v6newbiemix

If any newer players want to see why 7's is a bad game mode and why 6's is better, there is a heated discussion on this forum post: http://www.teamfortress.tv/46925/rgl-gg-is-coming-to-europe-with-a-1-000-prizepool

it is the shortbus

enough tryouts for now

legit on his main

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BountifulNextGalah-size_restricted.gif

Yeah because people who scrim their team, people who do demo reviews for members of the team, people who can look up my newbie team in the newbie mixes drive thread/steam thread, people who can look at your own esea history aren't gonna know who you are talking about and judge those players accordingly.

You just blatantly lied about your situation on a public popular forum making your ex-teammates look bad for no reason and I called you out for it.

Thanks, Best of luck to you in UGC Steel knowing you threw away a team dedicated to improving, A free dedicated mentor that wouldve helped you improve drastically, because your toxic attitude and ego got in the way.

most of us are not talking about open. we are talking about sniper in general, especially at higher levels

edit:someone make a thread so we dont derail open thread further
(unless this is a tactic to get more posts on the open thread)

edit: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/278601868?t=58m29s

but we ban every other thing that forces the other team to run it.

yeah fuck that class