Sorry, but taking quake and modding it so it does not play like quake, then making a game that completely changes the mechanics, aesthetics, and removes a lot of the "quake-y" aspects of the mod that already doesn't play much like quake so it plays even less like quake, is similar to quake?

Having played a bunch of tf2 and spent some time on quake-type games, I feel like if I didn't know QTF existed I would have literally no clue that tf2 was even related to quake. The similarities between quake and tf2 (like some of the weapons) seem kind of superficial and minor to me...

It seems like I'm in the minority with this opinion so I expect I am dumb :( but I've spent way too much time thinking about this and I need to focus on work now :p.

Maybe I'm dumb but I really don't see many similarities between quake and tf2.
This is definitely a stretch, but I can't help but feel like saying "tf2 is quake based" is saying something akin to "fortnite is arma 3 based" because fortnite is based off of (but plays differently than) pubg which is based on (but plays differently than) dayz, which is a mod of arma 3. but Dayz is really its own game.
tf2 is clearly based off of QTF, but QTF isn't really quake. Obviously, it's a mod so it has the same mechanics, but imo it was effectively a different game (it seems like it goes beyond just being like a custom gamemode in quake.) Tf2 keeps the general idea of QTF, but basically none of its mechanics. The mechanics of QTF were the real "quake-y" parts of it. So tf2 doesn't have many of the aspects of QTF that were inherited from quake, just the ideas that were unique to QTF.
I like both games a bunch, I just can't see it. Could someone explain why they think they are similar (or reasons why my argument is stupid, I'm legitimately curious)? They just feel very different to me. :(

bob

name it "TF2 ShaDowBurn Frag Clip #9"

despacitno more

I took a shower then had a bagel and some coffee for breakfast. I am now at work.

Wow, congratulations. That's really cool (and impressive!)

rome: total war, fallout 3, minecraft beta, runescape, battlefield 1943, MW2, l4d2, fly for fun, oblivion

Edit: Is kingdoms of amalur actually good? It's one of those games I got during a steam sale and played for 30 minutes and forgot about... Lol. All I hear about it is that it did really badly and the company went under.

didn't like it much. I think I'll just stick to bob.

I like your dog reero :)

acceptance of perversion, racism, stupidity, misogyny, violence, incest, and pedophilia is common enough in the anime I have watched for me to generally avoid it nowadays.

I miss lansky. :(

Never. Drugs are bad for you

you should be able to ctap as far if you turn a full 180 and press s when you jump with the original instead of whatever people normally do with the stock, right? (I never really started doing that so I don't actually know for sure.) I agree that how I normally jump with the original I can't get as far as far as when I ctap with the stock, even though I used the original much more often when I played. But I always assumed it was just because of this:

https://imgur.com/1WbH19d

https://imgur.com/fTUa7Ud