Nah I definitely agree, I may be an advocate for full time offclassing but it’s mostly for making a team around one class, that’s it. I find it the most silly to try and say “all classes should be viable.” Because you would essentially make scout with a flamethrower or scout tank with a minigun it’s just not what the classes are, if you can make offclassing work along with a weapon you like? Cool, awesome! But leave the specialists how they are and keep them unique which is what their strengths are, defense and pick classes. That or using them on KOTH which works as well I guess.

skill issue

So far from what I am gathering from this thread is:

- some want a tutorial for the basics of 6s to help people ease into the scene.

- a lot of balances for the generalists weapons but not a lot in favor for changing the specialists, keeping them specialists. (Besides allowing to air-strafe from pyro’s airblasts)

- a functioning anti cheat of some kind.

- Your med percentage on top of the statues board.

- some form of matchmaking systems or at least pug systems/ casual servers

- LOTS of QoL features and fixes.

Anything I’m missing? To try and simplify our thoughts about this promod idea.

What about megascatterbomb and his development through demos in matches? If not, why?

It would definitely be tough. Would probably have to make new weapons for 4 of the 5 offclasses maybe less (cause sniper is already crazy as it is without movement) and if so what for what class to make them viable without making them OP or annoying which some by nature is already annoying?

It’ll be honestly way better than having to shift through forums, YouTube videos, discord servers, websites that you probably didn’t know existed till looking up things, what have you just to figure out what the hell does this specific term means, hell we can’t even agree on certain callouts or terms like gullywash’s elbow or is it banana?? You have to do homework on this gamemode just to feel like you are contributing in some way let alone know what the hell is going on. Which is fine, but be consistent, we are definitely not consistent in many ways, different regions with different rulesets and whitelists, different callouts for the same spots on the same maps, hell grape juice had to make a video about terminology’s of comp tf2 because how poorly people used them.

It’ll at least be something is what I’m trying to say for the community to direct the new players to to ease them in more easier.

you are right tho we have to put the work in or even could’ve done it awhile back when VScript came out which really got on my nerves when it came out barely anyone cared about it in this community, at least from what I saw.

just saw the video and yeah that's rough for how long and complicated it is, how can we not do that if we want to make a short but effective tutorial if we decide to do that?

all I can think of is give the essentials and make the complicated stuff more optional to read or learn.

I would say not mention a lot of the terms that higher level players use and let them learn that on their own or have it as an optional thing for them to read, same with some callouts with that website that shows all the callouts for every map, but give universal callouts like choke, last, 2nd, mid, etc.

S TF2 Guides can be a good example to go by

this is just the rough draft of the idea, but feel free to add your thoughts.

what did they do? i never played dota 2.

I will say one big thing for the community, we need some kind of tutorial for new players who are interested and downloads the mod to help them understand and help them get up to speed with changes if anything, that's all I want honestly.

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it's gonna be fun for me to watch both casual and hard stuck comp players react to that

Edited the Firesidecasts documentaries, it isn't a bad thought with the thought of the community behind it and NOT to help it be an Esport. I know joining with Fireside I thought if we had more stories besides b4nny then we can get somewhere and people will be more interested in the scene, which did work to a degree. When people found out ROME ( https://youtu.be/bs0wrRWYm0U?si=xOILJmH9z-2odoG0 ) broke up it was an instant turn off to a lot of people, before that they were excited and we had more views on our stream on a low invite team than most because they knew the story behind it thus got invested. The highlander one ( https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLSw7XtwkU5aQH81veh2Y_nJgsencBXmpj&si=3Bd5DHAn7rVbmqqb ) inspired people but it's tough to get 9 people including you to join a league unless you have all the time in the world so ultimately a turn off as well.

I'm more hoping our recap series will be more helpful to connect the scene and also get people interested in the scene as well since the history of the players and stuff going on in the scene is right there and who ever watches it can go "who is this "Yight" guy and why is he so important when he left the B4nny team Froyotech?" and also "B.A.S.E JUMPER IS UNBANNED?!?" etc.

I always appreciate Siyo for his work, without him I'd probably be pumping out bad inconsistent videos with no connection with players and staff members and all so thank him for most of the leg work.

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big smile :)

chicken alfredo is banger

well that sucks, but they have every right to feel that way so. ggs