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looking to upgrade pc - gfx card problem?
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So as of recently I've been having this weird problem with my computer/monitor. Whenever I first turn my computer on the monitor light is lit up showing its plugged into a power outlet but sometimes when I turn my computer on the monitor shows nothing. To fix this I usually just turn my computer off, remove the dvi-d cable from the back of my computer and blow on it and plug it back in and usually doing that once or twice fixes it and I'm really not sure what's the problem. I thought it might just be the dvi-d cable so I bought a brand new one but its still happening. I've been told that it could possibly be my graphics card or my motherboard (most likely my graphics card though). I'm really not sure which one it is but its most likely my graphics card. If you have any idea feel free to post in thread or add me on steam

I'm also looking to upgrade most parts in my computer as it is very old and runs like shit and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for good cheap gaming graphics cards as well as a cheap motherboard, cpu, ram, power supply, and case. I need parts that will run overwatch/tf2 and most games at 120 fps+ because currently I get 30-40 fps in overwatch with big fps lag spikes and tf2 usually runs fine but with like every update i lose 10 fps.

My Current Setup: (my pc is about 8 or 9 years old as well as all the parts inside except for my cpu is about 6 or 7 years old)
Motherboard: Intel DG41TY
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 @ 2.33 GHz
RAM: 4 GB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2265wm 120Hz
Power Supply: 500w I'm pretty sure

I have about 400-500$ I got for Christmas that i'm wanting to spend on parts and I don't know where I should start, I'm probably going to start with a new case and power supply but after that I'm just unsure if I should try to get a graphics card first and hope it'll work with my old parts for now or if I should get a new cpu,motherboard, and ram and get a new graphics card down the road and hope my 460 will last me. I've been looking at this cpu: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Skylake-Desktop-Processor-BX80662I56600K/dp/B012M8M7TY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482794989&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+6600k and been thinking about getting this cpu but still not sure.

Feel free to add me on steam if you can help me out at all. Thanks!

So as of recently I've been having this weird problem with my computer/monitor. Whenever I first turn my computer on the monitor light is lit up showing its plugged into a power outlet but sometimes when I turn my computer on the monitor shows nothing. To fix this I usually just turn my computer off, remove the dvi-d cable from the back of my computer and blow on it and plug it back in and usually doing that once or twice fixes it and I'm really not sure what's the problem. I thought it might just be the dvi-d cable so I bought a brand new one but its still happening. I've been told that it could possibly be my graphics card or my motherboard (most likely my graphics card though). I'm really not sure which one it is but its most likely my graphics card. If you have any idea feel free to post in thread or add me on steam

I'm also looking to upgrade most parts in my computer as it is very old and runs like shit and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for good cheap gaming graphics cards as well as a cheap motherboard, cpu, ram, power supply, and case. I need parts that will run overwatch/tf2 and most games at 120 fps+ because currently I get 30-40 fps in overwatch with big fps lag spikes and tf2 usually runs fine but with like every update i lose 10 fps.

My Current Setup: (my pc is about 8 or 9 years old as well as all the parts inside except for my cpu is about 6 or 7 years old)
Motherboard: Intel DG41TY
Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 @ 2.33 GHz
RAM: 4 GB
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460
Monitor: ViewSonic VX2265wm 120Hz
Power Supply: 500w I'm pretty sure

I have about 400-500$ I got for Christmas that i'm wanting to spend on parts and I don't know where I should start, I'm probably going to start with a new case and power supply but after that I'm just unsure if I should try to get a graphics card first and hope it'll work with my old parts for now or if I should get a new cpu,motherboard, and ram and get a new graphics card down the road and hope my 460 will last me. I've been looking at this cpu: https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Skylake-Desktop-Processor-BX80662I56600K/dp/B012M8M7TY/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482794989&sr=1-1&keywords=i5+6600k&tag=teamfortresst-20 and been thinking about getting this cpu but still not sure.

Feel free to add me on steam if you can help me out at all. Thanks!
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Setsul will be with you shortly, please have a seat over there.

Setsul will be with you shortly, please have a seat over there.
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Setsul might have an appointment with his bed, this can take till tomorrow morning...

Setsul might have an appointment with his bed, this can take till tomorrow morning...
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core 2 quad whew that's a bit dated

setsul can probably hook you up with a nice part list, especially since it's right after christmas

core 2 quad whew that's a bit dated

setsul can probably hook you up with a nice part list, especially since it's right after christmas
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I wouldn't bother with a case or power supply since I've honestly been using the same power supply since about 2007 (650watts antec earthwatts) and right now I'm running a 980ti... Your money will be better spent with a cpu motherboard ram graphics and probably a solid state drive. Your case and psu have very little to do with actual performance and honestly can be reused build after build granted all the proper power connectors are there for the graphics and don't exceed your 500watt limit

I wouldn't bother with a case or power supply since I've honestly been using the same power supply since about 2007 (650watts antec earthwatts) and right now I'm running a 980ti... Your money will be better spent with a cpu motherboard ram graphics and probably a solid state drive. Your case and psu have very little to do with actual performance and honestly can be reused build after build granted all the proper power connectors are there for the graphics and don't exceed your 500watt limit
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mobo>cpu>solid state drive>graphic card

mobo>cpu>solid state drive>graphic card
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frenzyxcpu>mobo>graphic card>solid state drive

ftfy

[quote=frenzyx]cpu>mobo>graphic card>solid state drive[/quote]
ftfy
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wrechedddddI wouldn't bother with a case or power supply since I've honestly been using the same power supply since about 2007 (650watts antec earthwatts) and right now I'm running a 980ti... Your money will be better spent with a cpu motherboard ram graphics and probably a solid state drive. Your case and psu have very little to do with actual performance and honestly can be reused build after build granted all the proper power connectors are there for the graphics and don't exceed your 500watt limit

Oh I already have a 120 gb ssd as well as a 500 gb hard drive and a 1 tb external hdd, forgot to include that in the post. Also I wanted a new case because my case is kind of small and I feel like I'll need a bigger case to get everything into and the power supply im just unsure about. My friend looked at it last time he was over and he said it almost looked like it was like attached the case or something This is my current case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3912D88177

Also after looking at the case on newegg it looks like my power supply does come with the case and is 500w

[quote=wrecheddddd]I wouldn't bother with a case or power supply since I've honestly been using the same power supply since about 2007 (650watts antec earthwatts) and right now I'm running a 980ti... Your money will be better spent with a cpu motherboard ram graphics and probably a solid state drive. Your case and psu have very little to do with actual performance and honestly can be reused build after build granted all the proper power connectors are there for the graphics and don't exceed your 500watt limit[/quote]

Oh I already have a 120 gb ssd as well as a 500 gb hard drive and a 1 tb external hdd, forgot to include that in the post. Also I wanted a new case because my case is kind of small and I feel like I'll need a bigger case to get everything into and the power supply im just unsure about. My friend looked at it last time he was over and he said it almost looked like it was like attached the case or something This is my current case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3912D88177

Also after looking at the case on newegg it looks like my power supply does come with the case and is 500w
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dflame how did you managed to be a top IM scout player with this kind of setup?

dflame how did you managed to be a top IM scout player with this kind of setup?
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murkscribedflame how did you managed to be a top IM scout player with this kind of setup?

I mean my computer runs pretty fine for tf2 (100+ fps) but with overwatch and newer games that are coming out my computer can't handle them. I had a really shitty laptop that I played on before I got this computer though and i would run tf2 at the lowest possible settings with custom skins to make the game look worse and ran at 640x480: heres what that looked like lol : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEeX1LdTR0U

[quote=murkscribe]dflame how did you managed to be a top IM scout player with this kind of setup?[/quote]

I mean my computer runs pretty fine for tf2 (100+ fps) but with overwatch and newer games that are coming out my computer can't handle them. I had a really shitty laptop that I played on before I got this computer though and i would run tf2 at the lowest possible settings with custom skins to make the game look worse and ran at 640x480: heres what that looked like lol : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEeX1LdTR0U
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You might wanna go to your nearest microcenter if there's any close by and get up on this sick deal they have.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/451885/Core_i5-6600K_SkyLake_35GHz_1151_Boxed_Processor

No other place I found online, has price like these, although the downside is that you have to go there physically. they also have those 30 dollars off combo thing going for them.

You might wanna go to your nearest microcenter if there's any close by and get up on this sick deal they have.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/451885/Core_i5-6600K_SkyLake_35GHz_1151_Boxed_Processor

No other place I found online, has price like these, although the downside is that you have to go there physically. they also have those 30 dollars off combo thing going for them.
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Speaking of microcenter you can get crazy deals on open box/returned parts especially cases that are slightly dented/scratched, got a corsair d600(?) for like $10 bucks since the side was badly scratched. Sandpaper+black spray paint and it was fine. I have no hesitations buying used cases as long as the power button works lol

Speaking of microcenter you can get crazy deals on open box/returned parts especially cases that are slightly dented/scratched, got a corsair d600(?) for like $10 bucks since the side was badly scratched. Sandpaper+black spray paint and it was fine. I have no hesitations buying used cases as long as the power button works lol
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If I were in your position I would go with something like this

  • These upgrades will put TF2 in a headlock and they won't let go, ever... (300+ fps)
  • They'll easily run Overatch and games like this at ultra settings 1080p 120+ fps
  • Included a mini version of the gtx 1060 so that it will fit in your micro atx case
  • Your 500 watt power supply will be plenty enough

If you have more money you can go with the i5-6600K and add a cooler such as the 212 evo or even get 16gbs of ram for like, $20 more

If I were in your position I would go with something like [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Andrew44771/saved/Jtspgs]this[/url]

[list]
[*] These upgrades will put TF2 in a headlock and they won't let go, ever... (300+ fps)
[*] They'll easily run Overatch and games like this at ultra settings 1080p 120+ fps
[*] Included a mini version of the gtx 1060 so that it will fit in your micro atx case
[*] Your 500 watt power supply will be plenty enough
[/list]

If you have more money you can go with the i5-6600K and add a cooler such as the 212 evo or even get 16gbs of ram for like, $20 more
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s1keIf I were in your position I would go with something like this
  • These upgrades will put TF2 in a headlock and they won't let go, ever... (300+ fps)
  • They'll easily run Overatch and games like this at ultra settings 1080p 120+ fps
  • Included a mini version of the gtx 1060 so that it will fit in your micro atx case
  • Your 500 watt power supply will be plenty enough

If you have more money you can go with the i5-6600K and add a cooler such as the 212 evo or even get 16gbs of ram for like, $20 more

I'll have to check this out, this might be exactly what I need. Thanks for this, I might add you later if I have any questions

[quote=s1ke]If I were in your position I would go with something like [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Andrew44771/saved/Jtspgs]this[/url]

[list]
[*] These upgrades will put TF2 in a headlock and they won't let go, ever... (300+ fps)
[*] They'll easily run Overatch and games like this at ultra settings 1080p 120+ fps
[*] Included a mini version of the gtx 1060 so that it will fit in your micro atx case
[*] Your 500 watt power supply will be plenty enough
[/list]

If you have more money you can go with the i5-6600K and add a cooler such as the 212 evo or even get 16gbs of ram for like, $20 more[/quote]

I'll have to check this out, this might be exactly what I need. Thanks for this, I might add you later if I have any questions
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#2/#3
Setsul might actually be on a vacation for once and after not getting added by anyone for a month gets added by 4 people within 2 days and a gazillion new threads and posts pop up.

There's new CPUs coming january so you might want to hold off for a few weeks if you can.
6600K isn't a good idea because I don't think I'd trust you with overclocking and you can't afford it anyway.
I'm not a fan of the 1060 3GB, it's actually a different GPU than the 1060 6GB so it usually loses to the RX 480 4GB.
Not that AMD finally got the drivers up to scratch the 480 is on par with the 1060 6GB actually, so I'd go for that.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html

If you want high settings I'd actually go for an i3.
More cores don't help at all in TF2 and Overwatch doesn't need an i5 to get >120fps either. So a higher clocked i3 is ideal. Kaby Lake will be clocked another 0.2GHz higher at the same price, so if you can wait for that...
For new games a better GPU would definitely be beneficial. Then the usual "don't get shitty low end mobos with only 2 RAM slots, you'll regret not spending those extra 10$" advice.

So maybe something like this:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($65.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($48.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 480 8GB Red Devil Video Card ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $474.95
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-29 07:44 EST-0500

There's no amazing deals on cases and PSUs right now, your old ones should be fine, but you could replace them anyway.

It sounds like your GPU is dying, so get that first, maybe a case that's easier to build in, maybe a new PSU if you're really not comfortable with reusing the old one (depends on which model it is though), then wait a bit for the new CPUs, get mobo, CPU and RAM.

#2/#3
Setsul might actually be on a vacation for once and after not getting added by anyone for a month gets added by 4 people within 2 days and a gazillion new threads and posts pop up.


There's new CPUs coming january so you might want to hold off for a few weeks if you can.
6600K isn't a good idea because I don't think I'd trust you with overclocking and you can't afford it anyway.
I'm not a fan of the 1060 3GB, it's actually a different GPU than the 1060 6GB so it usually loses to the RX 480 4GB.
Not that AMD finally got the drivers up to scratch the 480 is on par with the 1060 6GB actually, so I'd go for that.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review.html

If you want high settings I'd actually go for an i3.
More cores don't help at all in TF2 and Overwatch doesn't need an i5 to get >120fps either. So a higher clocked i3 is ideal. Kaby Lake will be clocked another 0.2GHz higher at the same price, so if you can wait for that...
For new games a better GPU would definitely be beneficial. Then the usual "don't get shitty low end mobos with only 2 RAM slots, you'll regret not spending those extra 10$" advice.

So maybe something like this:
[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxHpD8]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FxHpD8/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hV7CmG/intel-cpu-bx80662i36100]Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor[/url] ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tn648d/asrock-b150m-pro4v-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b150m-pro4v]ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard[/url] ($65.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xjp323/gskill-memory-f42400c15d8gvr]G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory[/url] ($48.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BZJkcf/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-8gb-red-devil-video-card-axrx-480-8gbd5-3dhoc]PowerColor Radeon RX 480 8GB Red Devil Video Card[/url] ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Total:[/b] $474.95
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-12-29 07:44 EST-0500[/i]

There's no amazing deals on cases and PSUs right now, your old ones should be fine, but you could replace them anyway.

It sounds like your GPU is dying, so get that first, maybe a case that's easier to build in, maybe a new PSU if you're really not comfortable with reusing the old one (depends on which model it is though), then wait a bit for the new CPUs, get mobo, CPU and RAM.
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UPDATE: Well I upgraded my graphics card from a 460 to 1060 superclocked and so far my monitor problem seems to be fixed (i will update this thread in a day or two and confirm if the problem is fixed) and I'm getting slightly better performance. Next I'm going to upgrade my cpu/mobo/and ram. Any recommendations on those parts? Mostly the mobo/ram/power supply/case I already know what CPU I want. I want the best possible parts I can get for the cheapest price because I don't plan on upgrading for a long time.

UPDATE: Well I upgraded my graphics card from a 460 to 1060 superclocked and so far my monitor problem seems to be fixed (i will update this thread in a day or two and confirm if the problem is fixed) and I'm getting slightly better performance. Next I'm going to upgrade my cpu/mobo/and ram. Any recommendations on those parts? Mostly the mobo/ram/power supply/case I already know what CPU I want. I want the best possible parts I can get for the cheapest price because I don't plan on upgrading for a long time.
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Would you mind telling us which CPU you have in mind?
Or are we going to play a nice game of "let's hope this mobo's compatible"?

Would you mind telling us which CPU you have in mind?
Or are we going to play a nice game of "let's hope this mobo's compatible"?
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I already posted which one I have in mind, its in the main post...

i5 6600k/i5 6500. Not really looking to spend more than that on a cpu unless I end up having more money

I already posted which one I have in mind, its in the main post...

i5 6600k/i5 6500. Not really looking to spend more than that on a cpu unless I end up having more money
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dflameI already posted which one I have in mind, its in the main post...

i5 6600k/i5 6500. Not really looking to spend more than that on a cpu unless I end up having more money

have the 6500k and it is great for tf2 and OW

[quote=dflame]I already posted which one I have in mind, its in the main post...

i5 6600k/i5 6500. Not really looking to spend more than that on a cpu unless I end up having more money[/quote]
have the 6500k and it is great for tf2 and OW
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#18
Well as it turns out there's a tiny, but kind of important difference between the two.
You know, buying a non-Z mobo kind of blocks overclocking on the 6600K and turns it into a waste of money. And buying a Z mobo and a 6500/6600 kind of makes its overclocking function a bit useless, don't you think?

And maybe, just maybe, there was a chance that you might have been able to afford a 7600K instead, which is clocked 300 MHz higher. I know it's more expensive, but I thought you might be able to stretch your budget and get a 243$ CPU instead of a 242$ CPU.

#19
6500 or 6600 or 6600K? There is no 6500K.

#18
Well as it turns out there's a tiny, but kind of important difference between the two.
You know, buying a non-Z mobo kind of blocks overclocking on the 6600K and turns it into a waste of money. And buying a Z mobo and a 6500/6600 kind of makes its overclocking function a bit useless, don't you think?

And maybe, just maybe, there was a chance that you might have been able to afford a 7600K instead, which is clocked 300 MHz higher. I know it's more expensive, but I thought you might be able to stretch your budget and get a 243$ CPU instead of a 242$ CPU.

#19
6500 or 6600 or 6600K? There is no 6500K.
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Setsul#18
Well as it turns out there's a tiny, but kind of important difference between the two.
You know, buying a non-Z mobo kind of blocks overclocking on the 6600K and turns it into a waste of money. And buying a Z mobo and a 6500/6600 kind of makes its overclocking function a bit useless, don't you think?

And maybe, just maybe, there was a chance that you might have been able to afford a 7600K instead, which is clocked 300 MHz higher. I know it's more expensive, but I thought you might be able to stretch your budget and get a 243$ CPU instead of a 242$ CPU.

#19
6500 or 6600 or 6600K? There is no 6500K.

6500 my b still great

[quote=Setsul]#18
Well as it turns out there's a tiny, but kind of important difference between the two.
You know, buying a non-Z mobo kind of blocks overclocking on the 6600K and turns it into a waste of money. And buying a Z mobo and a 6500/6600 kind of makes its overclocking function a bit useless, don't you think?

And maybe, just maybe, there was a chance that you might have been able to afford a 7600K instead, which is clocked 300 MHz higher. I know it's more expensive, but I thought you might be able to stretch your budget and get a 243$ CPU instead of a 242$ CPU.

#19
6500 or 6600 or 6600K? There is no 6500K.[/quote]
6500 my b still great
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