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Good PC but low FPS
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I used to have decent fps (~200) in most games even with decent graphics settings, but recently all of my games have like 60 fps and dips to <20 constantly. I have no idea what changed, and have tried de-fragging HDD, running virus scan, reinstalling games, but nothing seems to fix the problem. If someone could offer some insight I would be really thankful.
SPECS:
-AMD FX-6300 six-core @3.5 GHz
-8 GB RAM
-AMD Radeon R9 380 series 4 (4 GB memory)
-Windows 7 64 bit
- 1 TB wdc wd10ezex-00bn5a0 storage with 500GB avaliable

I used to have decent fps (~200) in most games even with decent graphics settings, but recently all of my games have like 60 fps and dips to <20 constantly. I have no idea what changed, and have tried de-fragging HDD, running virus scan, reinstalling games, but nothing seems to fix the problem. If someone could offer some insight I would be really thankful.
SPECS:
-AMD FX-6300 six-core @3.5 GHz
-8 GB RAM
-AMD Radeon R9 380 series 4 (4 GB memory)
-Windows 7 64 bit
- 1 TB wdc wd10ezex-00bn5a0 storage with 500GB avaliable
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Make sure your CPU and/or GPU are at stable temps.

Make sure your CPU and/or GPU are at stable temps.
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CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C

CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C
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redi-CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C

I'm not an expert, but your CPU being over 150 degrees can't be good.

[quote=redi-]CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C[/quote]
I'm not an expert, but your CPU being over 150 degrees can't be good.
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Tsarbucksredi-CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C
I'm not an expert, but your CPU being over 150 degrees can't be good.

Those temperature are normal.

Things only start to get bad when they reach the high 80's in Celsius

[quote=Tsarbucks][quote=redi-]CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C[/quote]
I'm not an expert, but your CPU being over 150 degrees can't be good.[/quote]
Those temperature are normal.

Things only start to get bad when they reach the high 80's in Celsius
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AMD processor suck

AMD processor suck
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run a http://www.userbenchmark.com/ test to see if all of your stuff is working as expected

run a http://www.userbenchmark.com/ test to see if all of your stuff is working as expected
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redi-CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C

are these temps while you're in game or out of a game?

load up the most intensive game you usually would play for a few minutes and then post your temps

[quote=redi-]CPU: 65-70 C
GPU: 50-55 C[/quote]
are these temps while you're in game or out of a game?

load up the most intensive game you usually would play for a few minutes and then post your temps
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edit: I quoted my own post sorry

edit: I quoted my own post sorry
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CPU: 84 C
GPU: 62 C
these numbers seem above normal, could it be a heat sink or fan issue?

CPU: 84 C
GPU: 62 C
these numbers seem above normal, could it be a heat sink or fan issue?
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aieraAMD processor suck

friend had a 8150 or 8350 and ran tf2 fine. i don't think it's because of his cpu because they're more or less the same architecture. i would mess around with settings in tf2. changing resolution, graphics, dx level etc and see if you're ever getting the fps u want

[quote=aiera]AMD processor suck[/quote]

friend had a 8150 or 8350 and ran tf2 fine. i don't think it's because of his cpu because they're more or less the same architecture. i would mess around with settings in tf2. changing resolution, graphics, dx level etc and see if you're ever getting the fps u want
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redi-CPU: 84 C
GPU: 62 C
these numbers seem above normal, could it be a heat sink or fan issue?

Yeah I have an i7 4790k and I was running it w/ stock heatsink. Was fine for about 2.5 years but then started crashing overwatch all the time. I found it was a cpu overheat error and got a new cpu cooler.. Everything has been perfect since. My temps were getting close to 100 C tho, so it might not be that for you.

Make sure to update ALL your drivers, and you might have to update bios.

[quote=redi-]CPU: 84 C
GPU: 62 C
these numbers seem above normal, could it be a heat sink or fan issue?[/quote]

Yeah I have an i7 4790k and I was running it w/ stock heatsink. Was fine for about 2.5 years but then started crashing overwatch all the time. I found it was a cpu overheat error and got a new cpu cooler.. Everything has been perfect since. My temps were getting close to 100 C tho, so it might not be that for you.

Make sure to update ALL your drivers, and you might have to update bios.
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redi-CPU: 84 C
GPU: 62 C
these numbers seem above normal, could it be a heat sink or fan issue?

I guess there's your problem.
At 84C your CPU is probably throttling and not working at it's full speed and you get bad FPS.
Are your FPS bad right from the second you start a game or do they get worse as you play?
You should try to fix the temp problem either way but you could test if temps are really the cause by running a program like CPU-Z while playing and see if your CPU is in fact throttling.
Open task manager and see if anything else is using your CPU besides the game you're playing.
Maybe it heads up so much because it's at 100% all the time.

As for fixing the temp problem: Just buy a new CPU fan. You can get a decent one for like $30-40 that will be worlds better than the stock cooler.
I also recommend using speedfan to control your CPU fans speeds and make it so the fan works at minimum speed while you PC is idling (to make it quiet) and goes to full speed before your CPU is over heating.
Could also be a short term fix for your FPS problems - set it up in a way that the CPU fan goes to 100% when your CPU reaches 75C so it won't get any hotter than that and won't throttle.
Make sure you have 2 case fans. One in the front blowing inside, one in the back blowing out so you have a constant stream of fresh air going through your PC.

[quote=redi-]CPU: 84 C
GPU: 62 C
these numbers seem above normal, could it be a heat sink or fan issue?[/quote]

I guess there's your problem.
At 84C your CPU is probably throttling and not working at it's full speed and you get bad FPS.
Are your FPS bad right from the second you start a game or do they get worse as you play?
You should try to fix the temp problem either way but you could test if temps are really the cause by running a program like CPU-Z while playing and see if your CPU is in fact throttling.
Open task manager and see if anything else is using your CPU besides the game you're playing.
Maybe it heads up so much because it's at 100% all the time.

As for fixing the temp problem: Just buy a new CPU fan. You can get a decent one for like $30-40 that will be worlds better than the stock cooler.
I also recommend using speedfan to control your CPU fans speeds and make it so the fan works at minimum speed while you PC is idling (to make it quiet) and goes to full speed before your CPU is over heating.
Could also be a short term fix for your FPS problems - set it up in a way that the CPU fan goes to 100% when your CPU reaches 75C so it won't get any hotter than that and won't throttle.
Make sure you have 2 case fans. One in the front blowing inside, one in the back blowing out so you have a constant stream of fresh air going through your PC.
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1. You should disable AMD Turbo Core feature in BIOS because it can cause overheat. If you want to overclock you really should do it manually (just change the multiplier).
2. If you're not going to overclock your CPU you should undervolt it (set lower CPU voltage without changing the frequency). This helped me a lot. Temperatures in TF2 dropped from 55-60 to 40-45, but performance stayed the same.
https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95088
http://www.ronwoods.us/2013/08/the-fx-8320my-journey-into-under.html

AMD says 62C is the maximum allowed temperature for AMD FX CPUs. For me, anything higher than 60C for prolonged periods of time (over 15 minutes) causes memory parity errors and crashes.

1. You should disable AMD Turbo Core feature in BIOS because it can cause overheat. If you want to overclock you really should do it manually (just change the multiplier).
2. If you're not going to overclock your CPU you should undervolt it (set lower CPU voltage without changing the frequency). This helped me a lot. Temperatures in TF2 dropped from 55-60 to 40-45, but performance stayed the same.
https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95088
http://www.ronwoods.us/2013/08/the-fx-8320my-journey-into-under.html

AMD says 62C is the maximum allowed temperature for AMD FX CPUs. For me, anything higher than 60C for prolonged periods of time (over 15 minutes) causes memory parity errors and crashes.
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