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C9 disbands, Aui kicked from EG for RTZ, are you guys ready for drama?

C9 disbands, Aui kicked from EG for RTZ, are you guys ready for drama?
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#2
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getting cut after winning the largest prize in esports history that's new

getting cut after winning the largest prize in esports history that's new
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#3
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They dont have much time to do roster changes because theres roster locks in dota now
apparently roster locks sept 1

They dont have much time to do roster changes because theres roster locks in dota now
apparently roster locks sept 1
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#4
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Also 2nd time RTZ got Aui kicked from a team (the secret shuffle indirectly got him kicked).

Also 2nd time RTZ got Aui kicked from a team (the secret shuffle indirectly got him kicked).
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#5
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its crazy man

its crazy man
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#6
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s4 back to Alliance, Secret disbanded

s4 back to Alliance, Secret disbanded
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ChinGooThey dont have much time to do roster changes because theres roster locks in dota now
apparently roster locks sept 1

Roster locks? wtf... I haven't played dota for a few months now, but do they have some federation or something with rosters regulations now?

[quote=ChinGoo]They dont have much time to do roster changes because theres roster locks in dota now
apparently roster locks sept 1[/quote]
Roster locks? wtf... I haven't played dota for a few months now, but do they have some federation or something with rosters regulations now?
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#8
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I paid not so much attention this past year to the dota scene (for shame) but I'm genuinely curious (for anyone who watches streams, see's how the teams REALLY interact behind the scenes) why would Aui be cut?

Toxic or something?

I paid not so much attention this past year to the dota scene (for shame) but I'm genuinely curious (for anyone who watches streams, see's how the teams REALLY interact behind the scenes) why would Aui be cut?

Toxic or something?
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#9
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http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn8s65
https://twitter.com/SumaaaaiL/status/632370926869331968
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/30907-ti5-winner-aui_2000-kicked-from-eg-to-be-replaced-by-arteezy

Also from 1437's stream:

    Fear to probably play support
    Kuro to make a team with Germans, probably with FATA
    1437 to make his own team outside of Secret
    Puppey to reform Secret in the future
    Zai going to school for 8 months, to stay as a sub on Secret and will return for TI6

Aui didn't play very well imo in the finals but I still can't believe he was kicked, think ppd is being dumb. I don't get why Arteezy wouldn't just replace Fear if he's thinking of retiring soon due to injury.

Edit: Arteezy confirmed on his stream Fear is playing support

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn8s65
https://twitter.com/SumaaaaiL/status/632370926869331968
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/30907-ti5-winner-aui_2000-kicked-from-eg-to-be-replaced-by-arteezy

Also from 1437's stream:
[list]
Fear to probably play support
Kuro to make a team with Germans, probably with FATA
1437 to make his own team outside of Secret
Puppey to reform Secret in the future
Zai going to school for 8 months, to stay as a sub on Secret and will return for TI6
[/list]

Aui didn't play very well imo in the finals but I still can't believe he was kicked, think ppd is being dumb. I don't get why Arteezy wouldn't just replace Fear if he's thinking of retiring soon due to injury.

Edit: Arteezy confirmed on his stream Fear is playing support
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#10
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fear wants to play support so they need a carry/mid player
ppd is the captain so aui gets the boot

I heard ee s4 puppey iceiceice +1???

fear wants to play support so they need a carry/mid player
ppd is the captain so aui gets the boot

I heard ee s4 puppey iceiceice +1???
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ChinGoofear wants to play support so they need a carry/mid player
ppd is the captain so aui gets the boot

I heard ee s4 puppey iceiceice +1???

s4 is going back to Alliance and Puppey's remaking Secret.

Brodogshttp://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn8s65
https://twitter.com/SumaaaaiL/status/632370926869331968
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/30907-ti5-winner-aui_2000-kicked-from-eg-to-be-replaced-by-arteezy

Also from 1437's stream:
    Fear to probably play support
    Kuro to make a team with Germans, probably with FATA
    1437 to make his own team outside of Secret
    Puppey to reform Secret in the future
    Zai going to school for 8 months, to stay as a sub on Secret and will return for TI6

Aui didn't play very well imo in the finals but I still can't believe he was kicked, think ppd is being dumb. I don't get why Arteezy wouldn't just replace Fear if he's thinking of retiring soon due to injury.

Edit: Arteezy confirmed on his stream Fear is playing support

Aui wasn't a star player but he seemed to get the job done whenever it counted. I don't know how good Fear's support is but still, it's really fucking surprising to kick someone on their high like that (though with majors I guess they have to). Whatever they were doing clearly worked. I do think the major reasons they won TI is because they only fought Chinese teams in the main event, who didn't know how to play Techies or vs Techies (ignoring col because they're not on the same level). I say don't fix what's not broken even if Aui is arguably replaceable, but behind the scenes ppd seemed to not really like Aui's communication.

[quote=ChinGoo]fear wants to play support so they need a carry/mid player
ppd is the captain so aui gets the boot

I heard ee s4 puppey iceiceice +1???[/quote]
s4 is going back to Alliance and Puppey's remaking Secret.

[quote=Brodogs]http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sn8s65
https://twitter.com/SumaaaaiL/status/632370926869331968
http://www.joindota.com/en/news/30907-ti5-winner-aui_2000-kicked-from-eg-to-be-replaced-by-arteezy

Also from 1437's stream:
[list]
Fear to probably play support
Kuro to make a team with Germans, probably with FATA
1437 to make his own team outside of Secret
Puppey to reform Secret in the future
Zai going to school for 8 months, to stay as a sub on Secret and will return for TI6
[/list]

Aui didn't play very well imo in the finals but I still can't believe he was kicked, think ppd is being dumb. I don't get why Arteezy wouldn't just replace Fear if he's thinking of retiring soon due to injury.

Edit: Arteezy confirmed on his stream Fear is playing support[/quote]
Aui wasn't a star player but he seemed to get the job done whenever it counted. I don't know how good Fear's support is but still, it's really fucking surprising to kick someone on their high like that (though with majors I guess they have to). Whatever they were doing clearly worked. I do think the major reasons they won TI is because they only fought Chinese teams in the main event, who didn't know how to play Techies or vs Techies (ignoring col because they're not on the same level). I say don't fix what's not broken even if Aui is arguably replaceable, but behind the scenes ppd seemed to not really like Aui's communication.
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Honestly I think its as simple as fear wants to support -> aui gets the boot

Honestly I think its as simple as fear wants to support -> aui gets the boot
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ChinGoofear wants to play support so they need a carry/mid player
ppd is the captain so aui gets the boot

I heard ee s4 puppey iceiceice +1???

ice wants to stay in china/sea

[quote=ChinGoo]fear wants to play support so they need a carry/mid player
ppd is the captain so aui gets the boot

I heard ee s4 puppey iceiceice +1???[/quote]
ice wants to stay in china/sea
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KanecoChinGooThey dont have much time to do roster changes because theres roster locks in dota now
apparently roster locks sept 1
Roster locks? wtf... I haven't played dota for a few months now, but do they have some federation or something with rosters regulations now?

valve announced majors (think csgo) that will happen 4 times a year (including TI) in an attempt to keep the scene more stable in terms of players/teams. if they decide your team is switching too many players around, you don't get invited.

[quote=Kaneco][quote=ChinGoo]They dont have much time to do roster changes because theres roster locks in dota now
apparently roster locks sept 1[/quote]
Roster locks? wtf... I haven't played dota for a few months now, but do they have some federation or something with rosters regulations now?[/quote]
valve announced [url=https://www.dota2.com/majors/]majors[/url] (think csgo) that will happen 4 times a year (including TI) in an attempt to keep the scene more stable in terms of players/teams. if they decide your team is switching too many players around, you don't get invited.
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BUICKI paid not so much attention this past year to the dota scene (for shame) but I'm genuinely curious (for anyone who watches streams, see's how the teams REALLY interact behind the scenes) why would Aui be cut?

Toxic or something?

auis pretty friendly to everyone in his teamspeak

strongly doubt it's anything personality-wise on his end

[quote=BUICK]I paid not so much attention this past year to the dota scene (for shame) but I'm genuinely curious (for anyone who watches streams, see's how the teams REALLY interact behind the scenes) why would Aui be cut?

Toxic or something?[/quote]

auis pretty friendly to everyone in his teamspeak

strongly doubt it's anything personality-wise on his end
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#16
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don't get why every1 is upset, RTZ is finally back with his father...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohcdMkQrUQg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMbSdoBWIAAaKFj.jpg

don't get why every1 is upset, RTZ is finally back with his father...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohcdMkQrUQg

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMbSdoBWIAAaKFj.jpg[/img]
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I don't know man, I think I love AuixUniverse and DendixPuppey more than ArteezyxFear.

I don't know man, I think I love AuixUniverse and DendixPuppey more than ArteezyxFear.
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#18
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just because you're the best in the world doesn't mean you shouldn't take whatever steps you can to get better. if ppd, universe, sumail thinks they'll do better with fear + rtz than rtz + aui or fear + aui, you make the switch.

just because you're the best in the world doesn't mean you shouldn't take whatever steps you can to get better. if ppd, universe, sumail thinks they'll do better with fear + rtz than rtz + aui or fear + aui, you make the switch.
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Honestly i think it's safe to say they made this decision because fear is nearing retirement, and they need someone to cover for him. Now whether or not Arteezy leaves if they start doing poorly is another can of worms. i also agree with #12, considering that ppd said during TI5 that he has more respect for fear than any other player on the team because of how long he's been around.

Honestly i think it's safe to say they made this decision because fear is nearing retirement, and they need someone to cover for him. Now whether or not Arteezy leaves if they start doing poorly is another can of worms. i also agree with #12, considering that ppd said during TI5 that he has more respect for fear than any other player on the team because of how long he's been around.
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https://www.facebook.com/TeamSecretDOTA2/posts/1036488536361760 Zai just confirmed to be inactive on team secret.

https://www.facebook.com/TeamSecretDOTA2/posts/1036488536361760 Zai just confirmed to be inactive on team secret.
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I never liked Aui on c9 and I never liked him on EG, although I'm am an EG fanboy. I think aui leeched off of fear and envy a lot more than other supports in order to gain farm. On top of that I think the playstyle of aui revolved a lot around split pushing and playing "scrappy" a lot like the original c9 team. I think EG takes a much more teamfight playstyle rather than that scrappy split pushy dota. With the addition of Arteezy I think EG has arguably the best drafter, carry, mid, and offlaner in the game. With that said I'm not sure how good fear is at a 4, but with his experience and his knowledge I doubt it'll be too hard to transition. Overall I think this change is actually incredible for EG. They have 5 players who mesh the best of any team in the world and possibly the most skill in the world. Great things to come

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I never liked Aui on c9 and I never liked him on EG, although I'm am an EG fanboy. I think aui leeched off of fear and envy a lot more than other supports in order to gain farm. On top of that I think the playstyle of aui revolved a lot around split pushing and playing "scrappy" a lot like the original c9 team. I think EG takes a much more teamfight playstyle rather than that scrappy split pushy dota. With the addition of Arteezy I think EG has arguably the best drafter, carry, mid, and offlaner in the game. With that said I'm not sure how good fear is at a 4, but with his experience and his knowledge I doubt it'll be too hard to transition. Overall I think this change is actually incredible for EG. They have 5 players who mesh the best of any team in the world and possibly the most skill in the world. Great things to come

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMdhe_GWwAAu8pF.png

[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMdhe_GWwAAu8pF.png[/img]
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Red_I never liked Aui on c9 and I never liked him on EG, although I'm am an EG fanboy. I think aui leeched off of fear and envy a lot more than other supports in order to gain farm. On top of that I think the playstyle of aui revolved a lot around split pushing and playing "scrappy" a lot like the original c9 team. I think EG takes a much more teamfight playstyle rather than that scrappy split pushy dota. With the addition of Arteezy I think EG has arguably the best drafter, carry, mid, and offlaner in the game. With that said I'm not sure how good fear is at a 4, but with his experience and his knowledge I doubt it'll be too hard to transition. Overall I think this change is actually incredible for EG. They have 5 players who mesh the best of any team in the world and possibly the most skill in the world. Great things to come

Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)

[quote=Red_]I never liked Aui on c9 and I never liked him on EG, although I'm am an EG fanboy. I think aui leeched off of fear and envy a lot more than other supports in order to gain farm. On top of that I think the playstyle of aui revolved a lot around split pushing and playing "scrappy" a lot like the original c9 team. I think EG takes a much more teamfight playstyle rather than that scrappy split pushy dota. With the addition of Arteezy I think EG has arguably the best drafter, carry, mid, and offlaner in the game. With that said I'm not sure how good fear is at a 4, but with his experience and his knowledge I doubt it'll be too hard to transition. Overall I think this change is actually incredible for EG. They have 5 players who mesh the best of any team in the world and possibly the most skill in the world. Great things to come [/quote]


Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)
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#24
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I think this is also a case of EG making sure nobody else getting rtz, the guy is probably the best player in the world and can literally carry games himself. With secret folding why would they risk him being set up in another team that could be much stronger? If team secret had more team chemistry they would be #1 and don't forget, they had a strong showing before ti5.

I think this is also a case of EG making sure nobody else getting rtz, the guy is probably the best player in the world and can literally carry games himself. With secret folding why would they risk him being set up in another team that could be much stronger? If team secret had more team chemistry they would be #1 and don't forget, they had a strong showing before ti5.
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aimanfire
Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)

Yeah that actually doesn't make sense and EGs a very aggressive team so you're out of ur fukn mind

[quote=aimanfire]

Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)[/quote]

Yeah that actually doesn't make sense and EGs a very aggressive team so you're out of ur fukn mind
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http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/492658-thoughts-1-from-zai

Arteezy is not from what I’ve read and seen, wrong on any of the matters he’s touched on. All in all, the things I’ve seen him write or talk about are not false, nor are they heavily biased but they are mostly true.
Much of Kuro’s statement is misleading and only serves to shift the blame away from him.

zai dropping the truth bombs god damn

http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/492658-thoughts-1-from-zai

[quote]Arteezy is not from what I’ve read and seen, wrong on any of the matters he’s touched on. All in all, the things I’ve seen him write or talk about are not false, nor are they heavily biased but they are mostly true.
Much of Kuro’s statement is misleading and only serves to shift the blame away from him. [/quote]

zai dropping the truth bombs god damn
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Red_aimanfire
Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)

Yeah that actually doesn't make sense and EGs a very aggressive team so you're out of ur fukn mind

Fear wasn't as aggressive as SumaiL though. But Arteezy is. I'm just saying, there's a difference there.

[quote=Red_][quote=aimanfire]

Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)[/quote]

Yeah that actually doesn't make sense and EGs a very aggressive team so you're out of ur fukn mind[/quote]

Fear wasn't as aggressive as SumaiL though. But Arteezy is. I'm just saying, there's a difference there.
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Update! NutZ (from MVP Phoenix) is leaving Korea and going back to singapore https://twitter.com/NutZdoto/status/632906634910527488

Update! NutZ (from MVP Phoenix) is leaving Korea and going back to singapore https://twitter.com/NutZdoto/status/632906634910527488
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aimanfireRed_aimanfire
Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)

Yeah that actually doesn't make sense and EGs a very aggressive team so you're out of ur fukn mind

Fear wasn't as aggressive as SumaiL though. But Arteezy is. I'm just saying, there's a difference there.

yeah there's a difference but it's not risky dude that literally just reinforces the natural mesh between them. You're contradicting yourself

[quote=aimanfire][quote=Red_][quote=aimanfire]

Keep in mind however, the biggest issue is that now you have 2 risky and arrogant cores than an arrogant mid and a conservative 2. But if it pays off, then these guys will have little to no competition :)[/quote]

Yeah that actually doesn't make sense and EGs a very aggressive team so you're out of ur fukn mind[/quote]

Fear wasn't as aggressive as SumaiL though. But Arteezy is. I'm just saying, there's a difference there.[/quote]

yeah there's a difference but it's not risky dude that literally just reinforces the natural mesh between them. You're contradicting yourself
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anyone have a link to the kky/rtz thing zai is talking about? or can sum it up for me?

thnx

anyone have a link to the kky/rtz thing zai is talking about? or can sum it up for me?

thnx
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