burning god
in jacky mao's defense i am pretty sure burning lives in a pile of gold or soemthing so.
MonkeySuitYeah HR vs VG should be interesting. I guess this tournament will dictate if they cut black or not.
edit: Holy shit that BG v C9 game. Lanm and Burning were flawless.
From what I've read on chinese forums black is getting cut no matter what. The chinese see many issues with black's play and you can see some obvious communication issues when he plays with vg. cloud9 continues to play poorly no surprise
edit: Holy shit that BG v C9 game. Lanm and Burning were flawless.[/quote]
From what I've read on chinese forums black is getting cut no matter what. The chinese see many issues with black's play and you can see some obvious communication issues when he plays with vg. cloud9 continues to play poorly no surprise
but hey burning and xiao8 are comin back after this tourney
ward traps himself
uses his refresher stupidly multiple times
fucks up every double ult by getting caught or using too much mana
uses his refresher stupidly multiple times
fucks up every double ult by getting caught or using too much mana
2cward traps himself
uses his refresher stupidly multiple times
fucks up every double ult by getting caught or using too much mana
the best part was when c9 was pushing mid and you watch misery casually walk mid, drop wards, then walk to the radiant fountain and tp out
uses his refresher stupidly multiple times
fucks up every double ult by getting caught or using too much mana[/quote]
the best part was when c9 was pushing mid and you watch misery casually walk mid, drop wards, then walk to the radiant fountain and tp out
hr got destroyed by vici; that was an embarrassing series to watch
C9 to cut misery, EE goes support again and black^ joins as carry!!!
Getting notail was so good for c9 but then they ruined it with getting misery
Getting notail was so good for c9 but then they ruined it with getting misery
I doubt he's actually that bad was probably a one game disaster
The above idea is real not good
The above idea is real not good
Agree with 2c - that sounds terrible. Misery is actually not even that bad, although I do miss seeing him on a core position =[
I feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret and now he has to deal with someone who watches anime. Yikes.
This is by far Na'Vi's best performance post TI4 qualifiers. They really seem to know what they're doing now, especially with xboct farming out of his mind.
Probably Secret to take it overall but I hope to god they don't. I want a Chinese team to take it, ideally Vici. I'd settle for anyone but Secret really.
This is by far Na'Vi's best performance post TI4 qualifiers. They really seem to know what they're doing now, especially with xboct farming out of his mind.
Probably Secret to take it overall but I hope to god they don't. I want a Chinese team to take it, ideally Vici. I'd settle for anyone but Secret really.
falconI feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.
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sleeepyfalconI feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.[/quote]
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.
bl4nksleeepyfalconI feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.[/quote]
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.[/quote]
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.
analysis of game3 has somehow ignored s4 feeding the opposing team from start to finish
notail is good, aui/zai are better. secret upgraded c9 downgraded from the trade overall. misery is probably better than pld which theoretically would offset. my guess is it's leadership issues moreso than any playeskill issues.
brownymaster2canalysis of game3 has somehow ignored s4 feeding the opposing team from start to finishThey did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.
if after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll
They did talk about him being awful game 3 during the game though. So many retarded dives and just being out of position in general.[/quote]
if after the game they endlessly talk about an sf losing his lane vs a sniper + sd mir roam theres issues
in general they spoke as if the game was hopeless very early on. thjere was a fight top where sf got arrowed at sideshop and the positioning was just awful and secret still almost won. if s4 didnt have bad game it would have been a 20minute steamroll
sleeepybl4nksleeepyfalconI feel really bad for n0tail. He was the most talented player on Secret
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.
I'd argue that n0tail is just as (or close to as) talented as the other players in Secret in general, but if you have a choice between n0tail/Fly and Arteezy/zai who have a fuckton of experience playing together and a lot of chemistry in general not to mention their individual skill it's really a no brainer.
I'd even maybe argue that n0tail isn't quite as at home as he could be playing the roles he is. I think later this year we might see him in a different position or even just getting used to the position he's in because the guy REALLY has a lot of skill as a mid if you look at his HoN days. Chemistry is the most important thing in a team though and it just seems like C9 doesn't have any with these people.
I've seen people dickride notail before but this the next level. Listen notail's a cool guy but he's average for a pro and not even close to the most talented played on Secret.[/quote]
Average for a pro? You never saw him be the best mid in HoN by a mile when fnatic was trashing everyone. His talent is on par with people on Secret for sure. Just because an all star player doesn't end up on staying on an all star team doesn't mean he's not good anymore. Secret was probably not meshing with him as well as they wanted so they went separate ways.[/quote]
Thats cool and everything but HoN was 3-4 years ago. What has he accomplished in Dota2? Comparing him to the rest of Secret is a joke. Everyone on that team is far better and more importantly more proven than notail. Zai and Arteezy have done a lot more in much less time. Kuroky and Puppey are legends. Everyone on Secret is an elite-level player. You can't compare notail to them, so yeah he's an average pro.[/quote]
I'd argue that n0tail is just as (or close to as) talented as the other players in Secret in general, but if you have a choice between n0tail/Fly and Arteezy/zai who have a fuckton of experience playing together and a lot of chemistry in general not to mention their individual skill it's really a no brainer.
I'd even maybe argue that n0tail isn't quite as at home as he could be playing the roles he is. I think later this year we might see him in a different position or even just getting used to the position he's in because the guy REALLY has a lot of skill as a mid if you look at his HoN days. Chemistry is the most important thing in a team though and it just seems like C9 doesn't have any with these people.
brownymasterHoly fuck these 8 slotting games. Rave surprisingly strong.
pinoy power
honestly when i saw this team form i thought it was a joke because jeyo basically got rejected out of NA
pinoy power
honestly when i saw this team form i thought it was a joke because jeyo basically got rejected out of NA