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So I have two minor problems here.

First, when I try to stream with no downscale at 1920x1080 I can maintain solid fps but there's a strange sort of jitter. When I down scale it by 1.25 it goes away so it's not a huge problem. I have tried using v-sync on and off but no fix.

Second, my friend told me there was a lot of buffering for him, and since I am not partnered there is no quality option. Is there anything I can do to help that?

Thanks in advance.

So I have two minor problems here.

First, when I try to stream with no downscale at 1920x1080 I can maintain solid fps but there's a strange sort of jitter. When I down scale it by 1.25 it goes away so it's not a huge problem. I have tried using v-sync on and off but no fix.

Second, my friend told me there was a lot of buffering for him, and since I am not partnered there is no quality option. Is there anything I can do to help that?

Thanks in advance.
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A lot of people actually set their game to play at 720p resolution - no downscaling then, less work.

What is your bitrate set to when you stream? I assume you use OBS, assuming you also use 30fps.

A lot of people actually set their game to play at 720p resolution - no downscaling then, less work.

What is your bitrate set to when you stream? I assume you use OBS, assuming you also use 30fps.
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1) I'd recommend, if you want to play at 1920x1080, that you use at least a resolution downscale of 1.5. If you're on an 1920x1080 monitor, a resolution downscale of 1.5 will give you a stream in 1280x720 quality (or 720p, which is still HD). It'll put less of a strain on your CPU, and using a resolution downscale of 1.25 will give your stream a rather odd resolution (1536x864, or 864p) that's not much better than what you'd get with a resolution downscale of 1.5. Also, the FPS you're streaming at puts a strain on your CPU as well. Most people stream at 30 and it looks fine, but if your PC can handle it, you could try streaming at 45 or 52 fps (because apparently there's minimal to no difference from 45-52fps up to 60fps).

2) Even if your upload is really good, if you make your bitrate too high, people with a download speed less than what your bitrate is set to will struggle to be able to watch your stream. From my experience, you can have a perfectly clear stream with your bitrate at 2000 to 2500 kbps, so even if your upload is significantly higher, making your bitrate higher just makes it more difficult for those with worse internet to watch.

Also, quality options will come in when you're not partnered when you have a certain percentage of all of twitch's viewers. I don't know what exactly that percentage is, but it's typically easier to get quality options later at night when less people are streaming (I've gotten it as low as 40-45 viewers), rather than in the day where it usually takes 100+ people watching in order for them to be enabled.

1) I'd recommend, if you want to play at 1920x1080, that you use at least a resolution downscale of 1.5. If you're on an 1920x1080 monitor, a resolution downscale of 1.5 will give you a stream in 1280x720 quality (or 720p, which is still HD). It'll put less of a strain on your CPU, and using a resolution downscale of 1.25 will give your stream a rather odd resolution (1536x864, or 864p) that's not much better than what you'd get with a resolution downscale of 1.5. Also, the FPS you're streaming at puts a strain on your CPU as well. Most people stream at 30 and it looks fine, but if your PC can handle it, you could try streaming at 45 or 52 fps (because apparently there's minimal to no difference from 45-52fps up to 60fps).

2) Even if your upload is really good, if you make your bitrate too high, people with a download speed less than what your bitrate is set to will struggle to be able to watch your stream. From my experience, you can have a perfectly clear stream with your bitrate at 2000 to 2500 kbps, so even if your upload is significantly higher, making your bitrate higher just makes it more difficult for those with worse internet to watch.

Also, quality options will come in when you're not partnered when you have a certain percentage of all of twitch's viewers. I don't know what exactly that percentage is, but it's typically easier to get quality options later at night when less people are streaming (I've gotten it as low as 40-45 viewers), rather than in the day where it usually takes 100+ people watching in order for them to be enabled.
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Thats about what I wanted to say rays. Streaming a game like tf2 in 1080p is pointless, better stick to 720p. Also difference between 45 and 60 fps is quite noticable unless you are on a 60hz monitor, then it looks the same.
Resolution downscale doesnt affect the strain on cpu, so setting your game resolution to 720p is not needed.

Thats about what I wanted to say rays. Streaming a game like tf2 in 1080p is pointless, better stick to 720p. Also difference between 45 and 60 fps is quite noticable unless you are on a 60hz monitor, then it looks the same.
Resolution downscale doesnt affect the strain on cpu, so setting your game resolution to 720p is not needed.
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GetawhaleA lot of people actually set their game to play at 720p resolution - no downscaling then, less work.

What is your bitrate set to when you stream? I assume you use OBS, assuming you also use 30fps.

My bitrate was 3500 but I just changed it 2000. I stream 60 fps.

[quote=Getawhale]A lot of people actually set their game to play at 720p resolution - no downscaling then, less work.

What is your bitrate set to when you stream? I assume you use OBS, assuming you also use 30fps.[/quote]

My bitrate was 3500 but I just changed it 2000. I stream 60 fps.
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This happens to me sometimes. Usually if I update drivers it goes away.

This happens to me sometimes. Usually if I update drivers it goes away.
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chugsMy bitrate was 3500 but I just changed it 2000. I stream 60 fps.

3500 can be a bit on the high side. When I used to stream around that range, occasionally I'd get comments that peoples' systems/connections couldn't handle it. Twitch "officially" advises not to go above 3500. Their page here has some helpful info including a chart with recommended bitrates for OBS.

[quote=chugs]My bitrate was 3500 but I just changed it 2000. I stream 60 fps.[/quote]

3500 can be a bit on the high side. When I used to stream around that range, occasionally I'd get comments that peoples' systems/connections couldn't handle it. Twitch "officially" advises not to go above 3500. Their page [url=http://help.twitch.tv/customer/portal/articles/1262922-open-broadcaster-software]here[/url] has some helpful info including a chart with recommended bitrates for OBS.
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