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So since it is black friday I figured I might as well upgrade my motherboard and CPU right now since I've been meaning to anyway.

I have this RAM
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=70119&vpn=F3-12800CL7D-8GBXM&manufacture=G%2ESkill
and this graphics card http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=84734&vpn=02G-P4-2773-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1244

I want a CPU that is fast enough to run Battlefield 4 smoothly and other new games. I'd like to spend under $400-500 for the combination of the two but that may not be ideal I realize. Can someone lend me a hand in choosing parts please?

So since it is black friday I figured I might as well upgrade my motherboard and CPU right now since I've been meaning to anyway.

I have this RAM
http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=70119&vpn=F3-12800CL7D-8GBXM&manufacture=G%2ESkill
and this graphics card http://www.ncix.ca/products/?affiliateid=7474144&sku=84734&vpn=02G-P4-2773-KR&manufacture=eVGA&promoid=1244

I want a CPU that is fast enough to run Battlefield 4 smoothly and other new games. I'd like to spend under $400-500 for the combination of the two but that may not be ideal I realize. Can someone lend me a hand in choosing parts please?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Probably better deals around but meets your price point easily

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131837


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

Probably better deals around but meets your price point easily
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but freakn, that chipsets on the way out man.

cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116898
mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131981

but freakn, that chipsets on the way out man.

cpu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116898
mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131981
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#4
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http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=90231&promoid=1029

http://www.ncix.ca/products/?sku=90231&promoid=1029
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CPU: i5-4670K
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ; GA-Z87MX-D3H ; GA-Z87X-OC ; GA-Z87X-UD3H ; GA-Z87X-UD4H
MSI Z87-G45 ; Z87-GD65

All good motherboards in your price range.

CPU: i5-4670K
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ; GA-Z87MX-D3H ; GA-Z87X-OC ; GA-Z87X-UD3H ; GA-Z87X-UD4H
MSI Z87-G45 ; Z87-GD65

All good motherboards in your price range.
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CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($234.99 @ NCIX)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $429.97
Do yourself a favour and get a good cooler if you don't have one, if you've got one already, disregard.

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k]Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($234.99 @ NCIX)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14]Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-gaz87xd3h]Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($109.99 @ NCIX)
[b]Total:[/b] $429.97
Do yourself a favour and get a good cooler if you don't have one, if you've got one already, disregard.
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extracrispybut freakn, that chipsets on the way out man.

Yes, but performance difference is negligible between 3570k and 4670k. Realisticly, if you go 4670k, it won't be worth upgrading until yet another chip set is out; judging by Intel's recent track record and roadmap.

Unless you need z87 exclusive features, it doesn't make a difference. However if you can find 4670k and a decent z87 board for only a small amount more, you should go that route.

[quote=extracrispy]but freakn, that chipsets on the way out man.[/quote]
Yes, but performance difference is negligible between 3570k and 4670k. Realisticly, if you go 4670k, it won't be worth upgrading until yet another chip set is out; judging by Intel's recent track record and roadmap.

Unless you need z87 exclusive features, it doesn't make a difference. However if you can find 4670k and a decent z87 board for only a small amount more, you should go that route.
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CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $344.97

or

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $354.97

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637i53570k]Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($194.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s]Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z77extreme4]ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard[/url] ($99.99 @ Newegg)

[b]Total:[/b] $344.97

or

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i54670k]Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($209.99 @ Newegg)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhu12s]Noctua NH-U12S 55.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z87a]Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard[/url] ($94.99 @ Newegg)

[b]Total:[/b] $354.97
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^^good prices, go with the haswell

^^good prices, go with the haswell
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

lange pointed me toward this CPU, but I'm not really sure on the mobo/cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

lange pointed me toward this CPU, but I'm not really sure on the mobo/cooler
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kirbyhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

lange pointed me toward this CPU, but I'm not really sure on the mobo/cooler

Any z77 motherboard and LGA1155 cooler

[quote=kirby]http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

lange pointed me toward this CPU, but I'm not really sure on the mobo/cooler[/quote]
Any z77 motherboard and LGA1155 cooler
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care to link? i'm not really the smartest w/ PC hardware/building a computer :V

care to link? i'm not really the smartest w/ PC hardware/building a computer :V
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kirbycare to link? i'm not really the smartest w/ PC hardware/building a computer :V

added to help out

[quote=kirby]care to link? i'm not really the smartest w/ PC hardware/building a computer :V[/quote]
added to help out
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No point in getting one of the best air coolers on the market (Noctua NH-D14) and pairing it with a motherboard that can't provide the power to use it. Personally I'd go with a 4670k, NH-D14 and a Gigabyte Z87x UD3H over the D3H, despite Haswell's overclocking headroom being much lower. That said, if you aren't the smartest with PC hardware and don't really want to learn about overclocking, you can save a fair amount of money by going with a 4670 (identical to a 4670k but can't be overclocked), something less beefy like a Noctua U12S or U14S and the D3H motherboard.

Overclocking total: $224 (4670k) + $85 (NH-D14) + $150 (Gigabyte Z87x UD3H) = $459
Non-overclocking total: $220 (4670) + $62 (U12S, $75 if you go for the U14S) + $140 (Gigabyte Z87x D3H) = $422 ($435 with the U14S)
Difference: $37
Personally, I'd go for the overclocking one with the deals you can get, sure it costs 8% more but if you can learn to overclock (it really isn't that hard, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBEeXajbG2o even though it's an older socket all the advice still applies, although expect lower clocks, e.g. 4.3 max instead of 4.6 max maybe) it will last you longer before you need to upgrade.

The 3570k/Z77 route is also an option, one that can save you even more money for potentially the same performance but only if you are willing to overclock. Haswell (LGA1150, Z87) is faster than Ivybridge (LGA1155, Z77) at the same clock speed, but Ivybridge overclocks higher in general compared to Haswell, so if you achieve the "average" overclock, probably around 4.2Ghz for Haswell compared to 4.5Ghz for Ivy, the 3570k can start to pull ahead. Personally, I'd go for the newer Z87 platform since you aren't guaranteed the higher clocks of the 3570k and the Z87 chipset offers more features than the Z77 chipset. For me, the main advantage would be that Haswell has much lower power consumption than Ivybridge, depending on your location this might be a non-issue such as in Canada where energy is much cheaper in comparison to England.

Z77 route: $200 (3570k) + $85 (NH-D14) + $124 (Gigabyte Z77x UD3H) = $409
Difference: $50

No point in getting one of the best air coolers on the market (Noctua NH-D14) and pairing it with a motherboard that can't provide the power to use it. Personally I'd go with a 4670k, NH-D14 and a Gigabyte Z87x UD3H over the D3H, despite Haswell's overclocking headroom being much lower. That said, if you aren't the smartest with PC hardware and don't really want to learn about overclocking, you can save a fair amount of money by going with a 4670 (identical to a 4670k but can't be overclocked), something less beefy like a Noctua U12S or U14S and the D3H motherboard.

Overclocking total: $224 (4670k) + $85 (NH-D14) + $150 (Gigabyte Z87x UD3H) = $459
Non-overclocking total: $220 (4670) + $62 (U12S, $75 if you go for the U14S) + $140 (Gigabyte Z87x D3H) = $422 ($435 with the U14S)
Difference: $37
Personally, I'd go for the overclocking one with the deals you can get, sure it costs 8% more but if you can learn to overclock (it really isn't that hard, check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBEeXajbG2o even though it's an older socket all the advice still applies, although expect lower clocks, e.g. 4.3 max instead of 4.6 max maybe) it will last you longer before you need to upgrade.

The 3570k/Z77 route is also an option, one that can save you even more money for potentially the same performance but only if you are willing to overclock. Haswell (LGA1150, Z87) is faster than Ivybridge (LGA1155, Z77) at the same clock speed, but Ivybridge overclocks higher in general compared to Haswell, so if you achieve the "average" overclock, probably around 4.2Ghz for Haswell compared to 4.5Ghz for Ivy, the 3570k can start to pull ahead. Personally, I'd go for the newer Z87 platform since you aren't guaranteed the higher clocks of the 3570k and the Z87 chipset offers more features than the Z77 chipset. For me, the main advantage would be that Haswell has much lower power consumption than Ivybridge, depending on your location this might be a non-issue such as in Canada where energy is much cheaper in comparison to England.

Z77 route: $200 (3570k) + $85 (NH-D14) + $124 (Gigabyte Z77x UD3H) = $409
Difference: $50
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