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New Intel Generation
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http://puu.sh/36Oti.jpg

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050001157%2040000343%20600436886&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%201150

I'm thinkin' about it but I don't want to get stiffed like I did with my i5 760 when they released the i5 2500k.

[img]http://puu.sh/36Oti.jpg[/img]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100006519%2050001157%2040000343%20600436886&IsNodeId=1&name=LGA%201150

I'm thinkin' about it but I don't want to get stiffed like I did with my i5 760 when they released the i5 2500k.
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What I think about it.. MEH

I'm still happy with my 2500k, I see no reason what so ever to upgrade.
Unless you just HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE NEW COOL STUFF.

Besides if you want this, you need to buy a new motherboard.
Maybe even a new PSU, since it has a new 'LET'S NO USE SO MUCH POWAH' feature to it.

Upsides. You can do some serious RAM overclocking with this and most likely you can overclock some of these CPU's to an extent...

What I think about it.. MEH

I'm still happy with my 2500k, I see no reason what so ever to upgrade.
Unless you just HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE NEW COOL STUFF.

Besides if you want this, you need to buy a new motherboard.
Maybe even a new PSU, since it has a new 'LET'S NO USE SO MUCH POWAH' feature to it.

Upsides. You can do some serious RAM overclocking with this and most likely you can overclock some of these CPU's to an extent...
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There's no reason to upgrade if you have a recent intel processor. but if you're building a new system or upgrading from something older you should go for haswell

There's no reason to upgrade if you have a recent intel processor. but if you're building a new system or upgrading from something older you should go for haswell
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Reasons to Believe:

Intel HD Graphics

Reasons to Believe:

Intel HD Graphics
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Everything below the 2nd bullet point I have no care for, and both were already in earlier chips.

Everything below the 2nd bullet point I have no care for, and both were already in earlier chips.
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alfaReasons to Believe:

Intel HD Graphics

I can attest to the greatness of Intel HD Graphics.
http://puu.sh/2Pu2O.png

[quote=alfa]Reasons to Believe:

Intel HD Graphics[/quote]
I can attest to the greatness of Intel HD Graphics.
[url]http://puu.sh/2Pu2O.png[/url]
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gr8stalinI'm thinkin' about it but I don't want to get stiffed like I did with my i5 760 when they released the i5 2500k.

If you're worried that they'll release something better, they're always going to release something better.

But their next generation is rumored to be an almost entirely mobile launch so (assuming that's true) it'll be two years before something significant comes out for desktops (ignoring AMD, it'd be cool if they put some pressure on intel)

[quote=gr8stalin]
I'm thinkin' about it but I don't want to get stiffed like I did with my i5 760 when they released the i5 2500k.[/quote]

If you're worried that they'll release something better, they're always going to release something better.

But their next generation is rumored to be an almost entirely mobile launch so (assuming that's true) it'll be two years before something significant comes out for desktops (ignoring AMD, it'd be cool if they put some pressure on intel)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylNT1Co-Q6k

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylNT1Co-Q6k[/youtube]
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PhelixIf you're worried that they'll release something better, they're always going to release something better.

They released the 2500K six months after the 760 which I got three months before the 2500K, and the 2500K was just straight up better for the same price. That's the kind of release I'm worried about. If it's a year or two later that they release a new socket and cpu, I'm not gonna shed any bitch tears over it.

[quote=Phelix]If you're worried that they'll release something better, they're always going to release something better.[/quote]
They released the 2500K six months after the 760 which I got three months before the 2500K, and the 2500K was just straight up better for the same price. That's the kind of release I'm worried about. If it's a year or two later that they release a new socket and cpu, I'm not gonna shed any bitch tears over it.
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Haswell has Intel HD5000 graphics which are over twice as fast as Intel's HD4000 graphics and pretty much makes lower end dedicated cards from NVIDIA and AMD obsolete. You can actually play games alright on these chips.

Haswell has Intel HD5000 graphics which are over twice as fast as Intel's HD4000 graphics and pretty much makes lower end dedicated cards from NVIDIA and AMD obsolete. You can actually play games alright on these chips.
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gr8stalinThey released the 2500K six months after the 760 which I got three months before the 2500K, and the 2500K was just straight up better for the same price. That's the kind of release I'm worried about. If it's a year or two later that they release a new socket and cpu, I'm not gonna shed any bitch tears over it.

Yeah, that makes sense, and sucks.
But it's looking like this stuff will be here to stay for a while.

m4risaHaswell has Intel HD5000 graphics which are over twice as fast as Intel's HD4000 graphics and pretty much makes lower end dedicated cards from NVIDIA and AMD obsolete. You can actually play games alright on these chips.

Yeah, it's looking much better. My laptop has HD3000 graphics and I'm able to get by in tf2, but it's min quality and even then not the best fps. I bet you'd be able to do pretty well with HD5000 though.

[quote=gr8stalin]
They released the 2500K six months after the 760 which I got three months before the 2500K, and the 2500K was just straight up better for the same price. That's the kind of release I'm worried about. If it's a year or two later that they release a new socket and cpu, I'm not gonna shed any bitch tears over it.[/quote]

Yeah, that makes sense, and sucks.
But it's looking like this stuff will be here to stay for a while.

[quote=m4risa]Haswell has Intel HD5000 graphics which are over twice as fast as Intel's HD4000 graphics and pretty much makes lower end dedicated cards from NVIDIA and AMD obsolete. You can actually play games alright on these chips.[/quote]

Yeah, it's looking much better. My laptop has HD3000 graphics and I'm able to get by in tf2, but it's min quality and even then not the best fps. I bet you'd be able to do pretty well with HD5000 though.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7-4770K_Haswell/ is a pretty good review. Besides the integrated graphics improvement they have improved temps drastically. Everything else seems like a small improvement.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7-4770K_Haswell/ is a pretty good review. Besides the integrated graphics improvement they have improved temps drastically. Everything else seems like a small improvement.
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2 videos on the new Haswell chips

Overclock3d(TinyTom): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrLtjgbga5g - this is a loooooong one
NCIX(Linus): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnnwnSt4Sk

Few things to note:

Power usage! Haswell uses very little power, which conflicts with current PSU trend of more-power-more-efficency, which can be problems for low-end PSU to stable low voltage to the CPU. Be sure to check with PSU manufacturers compatibility charts before risking frying a haswell chip. (also buy a more recent decent quality one just to be extra safe?)

Overheating? Tinytom's vid points out this issue with the 4770k which ran at almost over 90c for 30mins at 90% load, which is a bit worrying, although the chip was OCed to 4.6

1150: No long the old 1155/6 socket, 1150 is the new direction. Cannot just direct upgrade without a new motherboard.

2 videos on the new Haswell chips

Overclock3d(TinyTom): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrLtjgbga5g - this is a loooooong one
NCIX(Linus): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxnnwnSt4Sk

[b]Few things to note:[/b]

Power usage! Haswell uses very little power, which conflicts with current PSU trend of more-power-more-efficency, which can be problems for low-end PSU to stable low voltage to the CPU. Be sure to check with PSU manufacturers compatibility charts before risking frying a haswell chip. (also buy a more recent decent quality one just to be extra safe?)

Overheating? Tinytom's vid points out this issue with the 4770k which ran at almost over 90c for 30mins at 90% load, which is a bit worrying, although the chip was OCed to 4.6

1150: No long the old 1155/6 socket, 1150 is the new direction. Cannot just direct upgrade without a new motherboard.
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only thing that is coming up in the short term for desktop is IVB-E, which is the sucessor to the i7-3930k /3960x. (6c/12thread beasts).

I would only expect incremental improvements there though over the 3930k, and haswell will still likely be faster when 8 or less threads are utilized. Also, they cost more.

only thing that is coming up in the short term for desktop is IVB-E, which is the sucessor to the i7-3930k /3960x. (6c/12thread beasts).

I would only expect incremental improvements there though over the 3930k, and haswell will still likely be faster when 8 or less threads are utilized. Also, they cost more.
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