https://etf2l.org/forum/user/147864/
About a week ago I was banned off serveme for the detection of psilent in a 6s center game https://logs.tf/3996757#76561199034220088. When I saw it I went to the serveme discord server to see what went wrong when Arie(serveme owner) said this https://imgur.com/a/HMqQuhu. I told him it is a false flag since why would I start blatantly cheating after 2 years of playing in a random center game while going 14-24 with 40 acc because like he said it is my only flagged game. Arie did not respond any more and another admin came to say this https://imgur.com/a/5PUbLYK like how is it weird to not record center games?
After that I made an ETF2L ticket in which they said they can not do anything about serverme bans. Few days pass and I get a cheating ban on ETF2L for 4 years. When I saw that I contacted the admins to see any proof of me cheating which they did not provide saying it could help cheaters avoid their mistakes in the future which is completely irrelevant since they gave me the demo that they banned me on.
From what I understand the ETF2L ban is based on one Serveme anticheat detection, a game played outside of ETF2L, no POV demo and no other flagged games or history
What I’m trying to understand is, can ETF2L ban someone for cheating based only on a non-league game? Is a single anticheat detection enough on its own without POV or repeated behavior?
Smac is a 10+ year old anticheat which is always known for being inconsistent, Zambz a prem demo was flagged for aimbot while on a Lan game. Emiel(etf2l admin) said this https://streamable.com/ir4i27 which is exaggerating the detections and not including that it was only a single game that was flagged plus he is trying to say because of these detections I have to be cheating concluding that my ban was most likely mirrored and the refusal of proof making it impossible to appeal and hard to trust by the community.
Pootis addition
The ETF2L rules are enforced at the discretion of the admin team. Any complaints related to rule breaking will be judged on a case by case basis, and different punishments may be handed out in each case. From my side, this rule feels like it’s being applied inconsistently. Just because it exists doesn’t mean it should be used without clear reasoning behind it. After the discussion, the reasoning shifted to me not providing a POV demo. But not providing a POV demo was already dealt with earlier as a warning, not a ban. Now it seems like rule 7.3 is being used to justify the final decision anyway. Using admin discretion like this makes it hard to understand what the actual standard is.
I know this will probably not get me unbanned but at least clear the situation.
Shout out to Pootis for helping me make this. #freebigeyeguy
[u]https://etf2l.org/forum/user/147864/[/u]
About a week ago I was banned off serveme for the detection of psilent in a 6s center game [u]https://logs.tf/3996757#76561199034220088[/u]. When I saw it I went to the serveme discord server to see what went wrong when Arie(serveme owner) said this [u]https://imgur.com/a/HMqQuhu[/u]. I told him it is a false flag since why would I start blatantly cheating after 2 years of playing in a random center game while going 14-24 with 40 acc because like he said it is my only flagged game. Arie did not respond any more and another admin came to say this [u]https://imgur.com/a/5PUbLYK[/u] like how is it weird to not record center games?
After that I made an ETF2L ticket in which they said they can not do anything about serverme bans. Few days pass and I get a cheating ban on ETF2L for 4 years. When I saw that I contacted the admins to see any proof of me cheating which they did not provide saying it could help cheaters avoid their mistakes in the future which is completely irrelevant since they gave me the demo that they banned me on.
From what I understand the ETF2L ban is based on one Serveme anticheat detection, a game played outside of ETF2L, no POV demo and no other flagged games or history
What I’m trying to understand is, can ETF2L ban someone for cheating based only on a non-league game? Is a single anticheat detection enough on its own without POV or repeated behavior?
Smac is a 10+ year old anticheat which is always known for being inconsistent, Zambz a prem demo was flagged for aimbot while on a Lan game. Emiel(etf2l admin) said this [u]https://streamable.com/ir4i27[/u] which is exaggerating the detections and not including that it was only a single game that was flagged plus he is trying to say because of these detections I have to be cheating concluding that my ban was most likely mirrored and the refusal of proof making it impossible to appeal and hard to trust by the community.
Pootis addition
The ETF2L rules are enforced at the discretion of the admin team. Any complaints related to rule breaking will be judged on a case by case basis, and different punishments may be handed out in each case. From my side, this rule feels like it’s being applied inconsistently. Just because it exists doesn’t mean it should be used without clear reasoning behind it. After the discussion, the reasoning shifted to me not providing a POV demo. But not providing a POV demo was already dealt with earlier as a warning, not a ban. Now it seems like rule 7.3 is being used to justify the final decision anyway. Using admin discretion like this makes it hard to understand what the actual standard is.
I know this will probably not get me unbanned but at least clear the situation.
Shout out to Pootis for helping me make this. #freebigeyeguy
people need to accept that the league is terrible
people need to accept that the league is terrible
The league is absolute shyt and should revamp it or remove the one rule that literally bypasses every other rule. Just saying; why have rules when you have 7.3.? It not a reliable league if that rule is there. Every player will be chill until something happens to them and admins don’t give a shit and enforce that rule.
Free my boy
The league is absolute shyt and should revamp it or remove the one rule that literally bypasses every other rule. Just saying; why have rules when you have 7.3.? It not a reliable league if that rule is there. Every player will be chill until something happens to them and admins don’t give a shit and enforce that rule.
Free my boy
As stated in the ticket that we replied to you with, your ban was a result of a manual review by the AC team which while prompted by the serveme ban, was not the sole reason for us mirroring on ETF2L. We found enough evidence in the demo we reviewed to go forward in enacting the cheating ban for the league as a whole. The AC team has never and will not for the foreseeable future reveal any proof of our investigations as that is simply an aspect in the nature of our work.
As stated in the ticket that we replied to you with, your ban was a result of a manual review by the AC team which while prompted by the serveme ban, was not the sole reason for us mirroring on ETF2L. We found enough evidence in the demo we reviewed to go forward in enacting the cheating ban for the league as a whole. The AC team has never and will not for the foreseeable future reveal any proof of our investigations as that is simply an aspect in the nature of our work.
LilliputtAs stated in the ticket that we replied to you with, your ban was a result of a manual review by the AC team which while prompted by the serveme ban, was not the sole reason for us mirroring on ETF2L. We found enough evidence in the demo we reviewed to go forward in enacting the cheating ban for the league as a whole. The AC team has never and will not for the foreseeable future reveal any proof of our investigations as that is simply an aspect in the nature of our work.
“We don’t have anything but if serveme put the ban, we follow it” - Lilliput
Atp, every heavy should be banned then lmao. If it were a prem player, it would’ve been different as we all know it
[quote=Lilliputt]As stated in the ticket that we replied to you with, your ban was a result of a manual review by the AC team which while prompted by the serveme ban, was not the sole reason for us mirroring on ETF2L. We found enough evidence in the demo we reviewed to go forward in enacting the cheating ban for the league as a whole. The AC team has never and will not for the foreseeable future reveal any proof of our investigations as that is simply an aspect in the nature of our work.[/quote]
“We don’t have anything but if serveme put the ban, we follow it” - Lilliput
Atp, every heavy should be banned then lmao. If it were a prem player, it would’ve been different as we all know it
PootisssssLilliputtAs stated in the ticket that we replied to you with, your ban was a result of a manual review by the AC team which while prompted by the serveme ban, was not the sole reason for us mirroring on ETF2L. We found enough evidence in the demo we reviewed to go forward in enacting the cheating ban for the league as a whole. The AC team has never and will not for the foreseeable future reveal any proof of our investigations as that is simply an aspect in the nature of our work.
“We don’t have anything but if serveme put the ban, we follow it” - Lilliput
Atp, every heavy should be banned then lmao. If it were a prem player, it would’ve been different as we all know it
There is actually no way your reading comprehension is that poor.
[quote=Pootisssss][quote=Lilliputt]As stated in the ticket that we replied to you with, your ban was a result of a manual review by the AC team which while prompted by the serveme ban, was not the sole reason for us mirroring on ETF2L. We found enough evidence in the demo we reviewed to go forward in enacting the cheating ban for the league as a whole. The AC team has never and will not for the foreseeable future reveal any proof of our investigations as that is simply an aspect in the nature of our work.[/quote]
“We don’t have anything but if serveme put the ban, we follow it” - Lilliput
Atp, every heavy should be banned then lmao. If it were a prem player, it would’ve been different as we all know it[/quote]
There is actually no way your reading comprehension is that poor.
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I see the downvotes and its very typical of the population of etf2l to have little to no understanding of the anti cheat situation. The impossibility that someone can be wrongfully banned, How the anti cheat STAC even works or the process of how admins handle bans. There has never been a time in etf2l history where someone who was not specifically banned for using cheats, (not talking about scripts cheat) but using external software, I do not think anyone has been unbanned for this specifically, already tried to prove my legitimacy for a long time especially with this recent ban, which I felt I did and got 0 input from the one open admin that banned me "bitebo" and it seems the same people no matter what I did to prove it have never given the benefit of doubt ever or even a chance to go to lan without them already making their minds up, the funny thing is there has been small snippets of clips even from my videos people claiming cheats, or that video where I was seen in a hackers discord call for 1 clip even years before my first ban, this is apparently enough evidence for some.
The truth is that I've never even installed cheats to try. Outside of admins circle will never see "caught in 4k" video proof of me actually cheating, people who did cheat, especially if the player is known, there will always be video proof of them actually cheating. I know it pisses some of them off to say this as its true, no matter what people say by word. Do not believe it until you see it.
STAC is a known anti cheat plugin widely used and known by many players even outside of TF2, can easily be bypassed by actual cheaters and is basically known by everyone, so the logic behind "showing evidence will make cheater hide it better" does not work anymore in this situation.
Lastly I can prove it anytime, still got that mouse in my drawer, just never been given the chance.
I see the downvotes and its very typical of the population of etf2l to have little to no understanding of the anti cheat situation. The impossibility that someone can be wrongfully banned, How the anti cheat STAC even works or the process of how admins handle bans. There has never been a time in etf2l history where someone who was not specifically banned for using cheats, (not talking about scripts cheat) but using external software, I do not think anyone has been unbanned for this specifically, already tried to prove my legitimacy for a long time especially with this recent ban, which I felt I did and got 0 input from the one open admin that banned me "bitebo" and it seems the same people no matter what I did to prove it have never given the benefit of doubt ever or even a chance to go to lan without them already making their minds up, the funny thing is there has been small snippets of clips even from my videos people claiming cheats, or that video where I was seen in a hackers discord call for 1 clip even years before my first ban, this is apparently enough evidence for some.
The truth is that I've never even installed cheats to try. Outside of admins circle will never see "caught in 4k" video proof of me actually cheating, people who did cheat, especially if the player is known, there will always be video proof of them actually cheating. I know it pisses some of them off to say this as its true, no matter what people say by word. Do not believe it until you see it.
STAC is a known anti cheat plugin widely used and known by many players even outside of TF2, can easily be bypassed by actual cheaters and is basically known by everyone, so the logic behind "showing evidence will make cheater hide it better" does not work anymore in this situation.
Lastly I can prove it anytime, still got that mouse in my drawer, just never been given the chance.
FREE THE GOAT FREE THE SING EYE MAN
FREE THE GOAT FREE THE SING EYE MAN
ngl this entire situation is so dumb free him LLKV
ngl this entire situation is so dumb free him LLKV
wtf going on in eu
This has to be the most down voted comments ive seen in a thread
[h][b]wtf going on in eu [/b][/h]
This has to be the most down voted comments ive seen in a thread
Big Eye Guy and not kidding, I watched his demo and I can tell you that he needs better crosshair placement, but also what he got banned for is clearly dust in the sensor... Yeah sure right?
He uses a razer viper stripped down to the bare circuitry for weight reduction, has been using the mouse for multiple years now and it would make sense that could happen, how did STAC detect him? literally because his crosshair wiggled a little maybe after doing damage, after all I was banned for clicking too fast *double click issue* and doing damage equating to triggerbot detection.
JUST ACCEPT IT ADMINS, FREE BIG EYE GUY
Big Eye Guy and not kidding, I watched his demo and I can tell you that he needs better crosshair placement, but also what he got banned for is clearly dust in the sensor... Yeah sure right?
He uses a razer viper stripped down to the bare circuitry for weight reduction, has been using the mouse for multiple years now and it would make sense that could happen, how did STAC detect him? literally because his crosshair wiggled a little maybe after doing damage, after all I was banned for clicking too fast *double click issue* and doing damage equating to triggerbot detection.
JUST ACCEPT IT ADMINS, FREE BIG EYE GUY
we will never know the true
#freebigeyeguy
we will never know the true
#freebigeyeguy
wizat give it up bro, been years alr
wizat give it up bro, been years alr
so if i click too fast according to wizat i get banned
so if i click too fast according to wizat i get banned
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nitro666so if i click too fast according to wizat i get banned
click faster than 0.0152ms and do damage.
[quote=nitro666]so if i click too fast according to wizat i get banned[/quote]
click faster than 0.0152ms and do damage.
ryftomaniawizat give it up bro, been years alr
I honestly could not care less anymore, I see the league for what it is. its more of a shame people like big eye guy will suffer the same fate, admins and players believe it only to blindly hurt their own league, this will keep happening.
[quote=ryftomania]wizat give it up bro, been years alr[/quote]
I honestly could not care less anymore, I see the league for what it is. its more of a shame people like big eye guy will suffer the same fate, admins and players believe it only to blindly hurt their own league, this will keep happening.
on goodness its fucked up what happened to bigeyeguy and dafuqwizat
on goodness its fucked up what happened to bigeyeguy and dafuqwizat
reading this thread makes me understand why some people never get out of mid
reading this thread makes me understand why some people never get out of mid