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Sick and tired of waiting for the new gpus to stop costing 8 million galactic republic credits or whatever the fuck, gonna get a laptop rn and build a tower in like 2022/23 if I even care about vidya at that point. I don't plan on using it for anything special apart from browsing and gaming (witcher 3, dark souls 3, maybe tf2, sekiro, whatever the fuck)

Both are 1k eur, which one should I get? Prob buying it tomorrow so I'd appreciate some speedy advice

https://www.anhoch.com/product/599268612/notebook-lenovo-legion5-15-ryzen7-4800h-16gb512gbgtx1660ti-6gb156-fullhd-ag-300n-srgb-lcblack

https://www.neptun.mk/categories/GAMING_LAPTOPI/ACER-NITRO-5-AN515-55-56XR-i5-10300H-16GB-512GB-SSD-RTX-2060-6GB

4800h is better than the 10300h afaik, but is the 6 gb 2060 any better than a 1660ti? As in, any hidden features that I could use apart from it being like 5% faster or w.e. (idc about gsync I'm using an external monitor that only has freesync)

Thanks in advance

And pls no "get X it's cheaper on best buy/amazon/w.e." I'm limited to local stocks and prices because thirdie

Sick and tired of waiting for the new gpus to stop costing 8 million galactic republic credits or whatever the fuck, gonna get a laptop rn and build a tower in like 2022/23 if I even care about vidya at that point. I don't plan on using it for anything special apart from browsing and gaming (witcher 3, dark souls 3, maybe tf2, sekiro, whatever the fuck)

Both are 1k eur, which one should I get? Prob buying it tomorrow so I'd appreciate some speedy advice

https://www.anhoch.com/product/599268612/notebook-lenovo-legion5-15-ryzen7-4800h-16gb512gbgtx1660ti-6gb156-fullhd-ag-300n-srgb-lcblack

https://www.neptun.mk/categories/GAMING_LAPTOPI/ACER-NITRO-5-AN515-55-56XR-i5-10300H-16GB-512GB-SSD-RTX-2060-6GB

4800h is better than the 10300h afaik, but is the 6 gb 2060 any better than a 1660ti? As in, any hidden features that I could use apart from it being like 5% faster or w.e. (idc about gsync I'm using an external monitor that only has freesync)

Thanks in advance

And pls no "get X it's cheaper on best buy/amazon/w.e." I'm limited to local stocks and prices because thirdie
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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-Mobile/m701609vsm776281

2060>1660ti

as far as "hidden features," ray tracing?

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-Mobile/m701609vsm776281

2060>1660ti

as far as "hidden features," ray tracing?
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carterhttps://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-Mobile/m701609vsm776281

2060>1660ti

as far as "hidden features," ray tracing?

Yeeh, I saw the benchmark, my question is moreso is the slightly better gpu worth the shittier cpu, and is rtx even a usable feature on a 2060 or is it just "it has rtx but it pulls 10 fps max with rtx on".

Tldr, is 2060 > 1660ti for a noticeable amount or is it just technically better

[quote=carter]https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060-Mobile-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1660-Ti-Mobile/m701609vsm776281

2060>1660ti

as far as "hidden features," ray tracing?[/quote]

Yeeh, I saw the benchmark, my question is moreso is the slightly better gpu worth the shittier cpu, and is rtx even a usable feature on a 2060 or is it just "it has rtx but it pulls 10 fps max with rtx on".

Tldr, is 2060 > 1660ti for a noticeable amount or is it just technically better
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Senti4800h is better than the 10300h afaik

actually 4000 series ryzen laptops tend to use 3200mhz ram so you will have considerably better bandwidth on it than on 10300h(thanks intel for locking down ram to 2666 both on chipsets and cpus)

also you really do be buying a quad core in 2021 which is essentially dead on arrival due to both core count and locked down memory with like no bandwidth

Sentibut is the 6 gb 2060 any better than a 1660ti? As in, any hidden features that I could use

yes, DLSS, long term it will be the difference between your laptop being a brick (40fps or less) or a soap dispenser (AI upscaling)

im actually disappointed at 1k or slightly over that none of them is at 120/144hz, 1k euro is easily 144hz 1660ti/2060 range (either worse thermals and slightly worse build quality model or a good deal midrange model)

so to speak legion has better cooling and thermals, even tho you cant adjust fan speeds, nitro has it way louder(worse heatpipe layout and fan goes to like 6000rpm)
also last gen nitro has RGB and the legion doesnt(LOLOLOLOL)

both the sites youve sent are ass, the specifications on legion are in the title with no in-depth description, the nitro one doesnt list full specifications either

oh yeah, lenovo lets you disable nvidia optimus(dynamic switching between integrated gpu and nvidia gpu) actually is a massive upside for source engine, because optimus takes a shit on max and average fps(and is like 3-7% more fps in actual triple a games, you think thats not a lot fool, but when you crank those settings you will be seeing high 60s at best so those % mean more than you think)

battery time forget about that LOL

i have a high refresh rate nitro and yeah well realistically i dont see any reasons other than the 2060 for you to get it, in fact i would have been greatly relieved if you found either a 2060 ryzen legion OR a high refresh rate ryzen legion

[quote=Senti]4800h is better than the 10300h afaik[/quote]
actually 4000 series ryzen laptops tend to use 3200mhz ram so you will have considerably better bandwidth on it than on 10300h(thanks intel for locking down ram to 2666 both on chipsets and cpus)

also you really do be buying a quad core in 2021 which is essentially dead on arrival due to both core count and locked down memory with like no bandwidth
[quote=Senti]but is the 6 gb 2060 any better than a 1660ti? As in, any hidden features that I could use[/quote]
yes, DLSS, long term it will be the difference between your laptop being a brick (40fps or less) or a soap dispenser (AI upscaling)

im actually disappointed at 1k or slightly over that none of them is at 120/144hz, 1k euro is easily 144hz 1660ti/2060 range (either worse thermals and slightly worse build quality model or a good deal midrange model)

so to speak legion has better cooling and thermals, even tho you cant adjust fan speeds, nitro has it way louder(worse heatpipe layout and fan goes to like 6000rpm)
also last gen nitro has RGB and the legion doesnt(LOLOLOLOL)

both the sites youve sent are ass, the specifications on legion are in the title with no in-depth description, the nitro one doesnt list full specifications either

oh yeah, lenovo lets you disable nvidia optimus(dynamic switching between integrated gpu and nvidia gpu) actually is a massive upside for source engine, because optimus takes a shit on max and average fps(and is like 3-7% more fps in actual triple a games, you think thats not a lot fool, but when you crank those settings you will be seeing high 60s at best so those % mean more than you think)

battery time forget about that LOL

i have a high refresh rate nitro and yeah well realistically i dont see any reasons other than the 2060 for you to get it, in fact i would have been greatly relieved if you found either a 2060 ryzen legion OR a high refresh rate ryzen legion
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jnki stuff

Thanks for all the advice fam

Some additional explanation - idc about refresh rate because I have a 144hz 1080p monitor that I'll be hooking the laptop to when I'm gaming. As far as a 2060 ryzen legion goes, I'd love that too but unfortunately I can't find any in stock, so my choice is between these two. The acer nitro is the only 20xx series gpu I could find, the legion is the only 1660ti under like 1500 eur, the rest are all 1650 unfortunately.

As far as dlss goes I've been trying to get info on whether or not it's shit on 1080p and a 2060 but I can't find anything conclusive

So out of these 2, if you were in my shoes, would you go for the acer cause of 2060/dlss, or the legion cause of everything else?

[quote=jnki] stuff[/quote]

Thanks for all the advice fam

Some additional explanation - idc about refresh rate because I have a 144hz 1080p monitor that I'll be hooking the laptop to when I'm gaming. As far as a 2060 ryzen legion goes, I'd love that too but unfortunately I can't find any in stock, so my choice is between these two. The acer nitro is the only 20xx series gpu I could find, the legion is the only 1660ti under like 1500 eur, the rest are all 1650 unfortunately.

As far as dlss goes I've been trying to get info on whether or not it's shit on 1080p and a 2060 but I can't find anything conclusive

So out of these 2, if you were in my shoes, would you go for the acer cause of 2060/dlss, or the legion cause of everything else?
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1650 represent lol(ive made my choice very clearly: dead game 2)
as far as your situation goes i cant help but reference a great recent russian saying: "there is 2 stools"
this is just compromise fest, either you get a loud and hot 2060(welcome to nitro chassis+90 degrees intel) with a severe cpu and memory bottleneck or you get a 1660ti which isnt the best now, let alone next year

i seriously cant help beyond saying just try a tiny bit harder with the online shops in macedonia looking for a 2060 legion(even a 4600h should do, really) because this is a laptop, once you buy it there is no turning back(unless you flip it for 15% off then add more cash and get a 30 series nvidia laptop)

oh yeah and try and get a cashback going, i was retarded and forgot to do it last time, even 2.5% off 1k is still going to feed you for a day or two

addendum 3: if this was my 2 stools i would go for legion because disabling optimus means free fps in games(if you can call source a game) without an external monitor

1650 represent lol(ive made my choice very clearly: dead game 2)
as far as your situation goes i cant help but reference a great recent russian saying: "there is 2 stools"
this is just compromise fest, either you get a loud and hot 2060(welcome to nitro chassis+90 degrees intel) with a severe cpu and memory bottleneck or you get a 1660ti which isnt the best now, let alone next year

i seriously cant help beyond saying just try a tiny bit harder with the online shops in macedonia looking for a 2060 legion(even a 4600h should do, really) because this is a laptop, once you buy it there is no turning back(unless you flip it for 15% off then add more cash and get a 30 series nvidia laptop)

oh yeah and try and get a cashback going, i was retarded and forgot to do it last time, even 2.5% off 1k is still going to feed you for a day or two

addendum 3: if this was my 2 stools i would go for legion because disabling optimus means free fps in games(if you can call source a game) without an external monitor
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https://www.neptun.mk/categories/GAMING_LAPTOPI/LENOVO-Legion5-15IMH05H-i7-10750H-16GB-512GB-SSD-RTX-2060-6GB-81Y6009ERM

Wellp, there's this but that's like 230 eur more expensive and I'm getting into "just pay a bit more and get a tower" territory, so I'll just get the 1660ti today. Thanks again for all your advice

https://www.neptun.mk/categories/GAMING_LAPTOPI/LENOVO-Legion5-15IMH05H-i7-10750H-16GB-512GB-SSD-RTX-2060-6GB-81Y6009ERM

Wellp, there's this but that's like 230 eur more expensive and I'm getting into "just pay a bit more and get a tower" territory, so I'll just get the 1660ti today. Thanks again for all your advice
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so i was browsing macedonian sites in macedonian this morning
this one is 4600h 2060 and is just 63.990 ден which is 1039 eur it also comes with a 144hz screen
otherwise its the same 16gigs*3200mhz and 512gb nvme

this one is just 66 eur more expensive but if youd get that one instead you would get more value long term(+ having 144hz is really nice if you want to bring it somewhere else other than home, and the response time on that one is way better too:3-5ms instead of 13-25ms gtg on 60hz laptop panels)
hope you had a chance to see this post and make a decision

so i was browsing macedonian sites in macedonian this morning
[url=https://www.ekupi.mk/mk/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D1%98%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D1%98%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8-%D0%B8-%D0%BE%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BD%D0%B8-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%BF%D1%98%D1%83%D1%82%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B8/Lenovo-Legion-5-15ARH05H-Phantom-Black-%2815%2C6%22-FHD-144Hz-Ryzen-R5-4600H-16GB-DDR4-512GB-SSD-RTX-2060-6GB%29-%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BF/p/EK000379717]this one is 4600h 2060[/url] and is just 63.990 ден which is 1039 eur it also comes with a 144hz screen
otherwise its the same 16gigs*3200mhz and 512gb nvme

this one is just 66 eur more expensive but if youd get that one instead you would get more value long term(+ having 144hz is really nice if you want to bring it somewhere else other than home, and the response time on that one is way better too:3-5ms instead of 13-25ms gtg on 60hz laptop panels)
hope you had a chance to see this post and make a decision
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Wellp ofc I see this right after buying the other one haha

Idk if I should return the one I bought now, sigh

I've seen that site in online ads, never used it nor do I know anyone that has, so idk if they're legit or fishy though, that's the only problem

Edit: I think I'll stick with the 1660 that I got after all, that site is pickup only from what I can see from a warehouse in the middle of nowhere. Even if I ignore that, it's still not a company I have any experience with and I'd hate to screw myself over in case of issues (future warranty, it not working out of the box etc). At least the one I got is from a big well established retailer and I know I won't have any issues in that regard

Wellp ofc I see this right after buying the other one haha

Idk if I should return the one I bought now, sigh

I've seen that site in online ads, never used it nor do I know anyone that has, so idk if they're legit or fishy though, that's the only problem

Edit: I think I'll stick with the 1660 that I got after all, that site is pickup only from what I can see from a warehouse in the middle of nowhere. Even if I ignore that, it's still not a company I have any experience with and I'd hate to screw myself over in case of issues (future warranty, it not working out of the box etc). At least the one I got is from a big well established retailer and I know I won't have any issues in that regard
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