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tf2 stuttering
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hey guys, so since about 2-3 weeks my tf2 has been stuttering (skipping frames), i was wondering how i could fix it since its really hindering how well i can do in-game and it makes the game much less enjoyable

some more info: i get at least a consistent 120 fps, i recently changed max-pre rendered frames to 1 about 2-3 weeks ago but i dont see how this could be the root of the problem.

hey guys, so since about 2-3 weeks my tf2 has been stuttering (skipping frames), i was wondering how i could fix it since its really hindering how well i can do in-game and it makes the game much less enjoyable

some more info: i get at least a consistent 120 fps, i recently changed max-pre rendered frames to 1 about 2-3 weeks ago but i dont see how this could be the root of the problem.
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is it an actual FPS drop? i.e. does the fps counter on net_graph or on showfps go down?

is it an actual FPS drop? i.e. does the fps counter on net_graph or on showfps go down?
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PokemonAdventureis it an actual FPS drop? i.e. does the fps counter on net_graph or on showfps go down?

no there is not

[quote=PokemonAdventure]is it an actual FPS drop? i.e. does the fps counter on net_graph or on showfps go down?[/quote]

no there is not
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Are you using a hardware fps cap? Some of the new Nvidia drivers allow real-time underclocking of your gpu to keep a consistent FPS, but it introduces stutter sometimes.

Are you using a hardware fps cap? Some of the new Nvidia drivers allow real-time underclocking of your gpu to keep a consistent FPS, but it introduces stutter sometimes.
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Same thing happens to me. Shows 120 FPS in game, but it runs at maybe 2 frames a second or something.

Same thing happens to me. Shows 120 FPS in game, but it runs at maybe 2 frames a second or something.
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it's been happening to me too :T

it's been happening to me too :T
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me as well :(

me as well :(
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Not_MatlockAre you using a hardware fps cap? Some of the new Nvidia drivers allow real-time underclocking of your gpu to keep a consistent FPS, but it introduces stutter sometimes.

where could i access these settings, nvidia settings? if yes, then where in the nvidia settings.

[quote=Not_Matlock]Are you using a hardware fps cap? Some of the new Nvidia drivers allow real-time underclocking of your gpu to keep a consistent FPS, but it introduces stutter sometimes.[/quote]

where could i access these settings, nvidia settings? if yes, then where in the nvidia settings.
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I thought it was just my PC fucking up.
I've been having this issue lately, too.

GPU is an Nvidia and I'm running HighFrames.
My FPS is never lower than 140 (unless I'm streaming) and the game seems smooth. But there is some mouse stutter, where it feels like my mouse is occasionally freezing up.

Switching down to dx8.1 somewhat fixed it for me, but I still get it on occasion.
Not using the latest Nvidia drivers, for what it's worth.

I thought it was just my PC fucking up.
I've been having this issue lately, too.

GPU is an Nvidia and I'm running HighFrames.
My FPS is never lower than 140 (unless I'm streaming) and the game seems smooth. But there is some mouse stutter, where it feels like my mouse is occasionally freezing up.

Switching down to dx8.1 somewhat fixed it for me, but I still get it on occasion.
Not using the latest Nvidia drivers, for what it's worth.
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Chris updated his configs on the 25th of this month. I don't know what changes were made to them though. Maybe it will fix the problem.

Chris updated his configs on the 25th of this month. I don't know what changes were made to them though. Maybe it will fix the problem.
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MJI don't know what changes were made to them though.

+violence_ablood 1 // Setting ablood/hblood to 1 actually improves perf usually
+violence_hblood 1

https://github.com/cdown/tf2configs/commit/19a71f2ababb696a38e916d90961fe103a3d2e6b

[quote=MJ]I don't know what changes were made to them though.[/quote]

+violence_ablood 1 // Setting ablood/hblood to 1 actually improves perf usually
+violence_hblood 1

https://github.com/cdown/tf2configs/commit/19a71f2ababb696a38e916d90961fe103a3d2e6b
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hey guys, so since about 2-3 weeks my tf2 has been stuttering (skipping frames), i was wondering how i could fix it since its really hindering how well i can do in-game and it makes the game much less enjoyable

some more info: i get at least a consistent 120 fps, i recently changed max-pre rendered frames to 1 about 2-3 weeks ago but i dont see how this could be the root of the problem.

I assume you've tried returning the setting to the default? The timing matches up and it involves frame rendering. Why wasn't your first thought to change it back?

For others- Do you guys get sound hitching with the stuttering?

1.) As a test, disable/uninstall your sound card/driver and test if the stuttering stops. If it does, get a program like driver sweeper and completely wipe your audio drivers and try to do a clean install. You may need to boot into safe mode to re-install it to prevent windows from installing drivers on it's own. I had to mess around with that a bunch to stop windows from installing what appeared to be some conflicting or duplicate drivers. You're going to have to test multiple scenarios (i.e. using windows automatically installed driver, if that doesn't work, uninstall and clear it out again, reboot in safe mode and install the latest driver from manufacturer's site). Check out your device manager after it's installed and make sure there's not multiple audio devices.

If disabling your sound card fixed it, but enabling it and trying to clean up the drivers didn't, Do the regedit bandaid fix to reduce sound stuttering.
* Open regedit
* Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile
* There will be an entry for network performance throttling, default value is 10; set it to FFFFFFFF hex (willl look like 0xFFFFFFFF to the right of the entry)
* Reboot
background thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1043281

3) still not working? reseat your audio card if it's external, and try a different PCI or PCI-e slot (whichever interface your card is).

If that doesn't work, one random thing that may have helped me (I'm too scared to mess around with it now that my multi-year stuttering issues are fixed) was moving my keyboard from USB to PS/2. It probably wasn't the solution as I was trying many fixes with the audio drivers at the same time, but I have an older system and who knows, maybe it has issues handling a lot of USB traffic with the overclocked system and specific configuration I have. Having troubleshooted system and software issues for like 20 years, sometimes it's random shit like that that ends up being the problem.

[quote]hey guys, so since about 2-3 weeks my tf2 has been stuttering (skipping frames), i was wondering how i could fix it since its really hindering how well i can do in-game and it makes the game much less enjoyable

some more info: i get at least a consistent 120 fps, i recently changed max-pre rendered frames to 1 about 2-3 weeks ago but i dont see how this could be the root of the problem.[/quote]

I assume you've tried returning the setting to the default? The timing matches up and it involves frame rendering. Why wasn't your first thought to change it back?

For others- Do you guys get sound hitching with the stuttering?

1.) As a test, disable/uninstall your sound card/driver and test if the stuttering stops. If it does, get a program like driver sweeper and completely wipe your audio drivers and try to do a clean install. You may need to boot into safe mode to re-install it to prevent windows from installing drivers on it's own. I had to mess around with that a bunch to stop windows from installing what appeared to be some conflicting or duplicate drivers. You're going to have to test multiple scenarios (i.e. using windows automatically installed driver, if that doesn't work, uninstall and clear it out again, reboot in safe mode and install the latest driver from manufacturer's site). Check out your device manager after it's installed and make sure there's not multiple audio devices.

If disabling your sound card fixed it, but enabling it and trying to clean up the drivers didn't, Do the regedit bandaid fix to reduce sound stuttering.
* Open regedit
* Go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Multimedia\SystemProfile
* There will be an entry for network performance throttling, default value is 10; set it to FFFFFFFF hex (willl look like 0xFFFFFFFF to the right of the entry)
* Reboot
background thread: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1043281

3) still not working? reseat your audio card if it's external, and try a different PCI or PCI-e slot (whichever interface your card is).

If that doesn't work, one random thing that may have helped me (I'm too scared to mess around with it now that my multi-year stuttering issues are fixed) was moving my keyboard from USB to PS/2. It probably wasn't the solution as I was trying many fixes with the audio drivers at the same time, but I have an older system and who knows, maybe it has issues handling a lot of USB traffic with the overclocked system and specific configuration I have. Having troubleshooted system and software issues for like 20 years, sometimes it's random shit like that that ends up being the problem.
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TO EVERYONE HAVING THIS PROBLEM: switch to dx9, it fixed it for me and if this many ppl are having this problem than this fix makes sense to me as it is very likely that alot of us are on dx8

TO EVERYONE HAVING THIS PROBLEM: switch to dx9, it fixed it for me and if this many ppl are having this problem than this fix makes sense to me as it is very likely that alot of us are on dx8
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Might be a weak tip, but multicore rendering got a bit messed up after the latest update. I had this issue too until I deselected the multicore rendering option, and it magically resolved the issue.

Or those on Realtek cards, disable hardware acceleration.
(especially if you happen to use XP)

Might be a weak tip, but multicore rendering got a bit messed up after the latest update. I had this issue too until I deselected the multicore rendering option, and it magically resolved the issue.

Or those on Realtek cards, disable hardware acceleration.
(especially if you happen to use XP)
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BitMight be a weak tip, but multicore rendering got a bit messed up after the latest update. I had this issue too until I deselected the multicore rendering option, and it magically resolved the issue.

Or those on Realtek cards, disable hardware acceleration.
(especially if you happen to use XP)

ok but doesnt that mean that youre working off one core of your processor, or am i totally wrong in thinking that.

[quote=Bit]Might be a weak tip, but multicore rendering got a bit messed up after the latest update. I had this issue too until I deselected the multicore rendering option, and it magically resolved the issue.

Or those on Realtek cards, disable hardware acceleration.
(especially if you happen to use XP)[/quote]

ok but doesnt that mean that youre working off one core of your processor, or am i totally wrong in thinking that.
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BitMight be a weak tip, but multicore rendering got a bit messed up after the latest update. I had this issue too until I deselected the multicore rendering option, and it magically resolved the issue.

Or those on Realtek cards, disable hardware acceleration.
(especially if you happen to use XP)

wow it really worked.. thanks man, dx9 helped a little but this just fixed it completely

[quote=Bit]Might be a weak tip, but multicore rendering got a bit messed up after the latest update. I had this issue too until I deselected the multicore rendering option, and it magically resolved the issue.

Or those on Realtek cards, disable hardware acceleration.
(especially if you happen to use XP)[/quote]

wow it really worked.. thanks man, dx9 helped a little but this just fixed it completely
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ok guys heres the thing... i feel like I (and people with the problem) have 3 options.

1. you disable mutlicore rendering, you lose about 50-125 frames at any moment but there is no stuttering

2. you enable mutlicore rendering, you get all your frames but there is the stuttering problem

3. VALVE FIXES THIS FUCKING ANNOYING BUG THAT MAKES THE GAME ALMOST UNPLAYABLE.

ok guys heres the thing... i feel like I (and people with the problem) have 3 options.

1. you disable mutlicore rendering, you lose about 50-125 frames at any moment but there is no stuttering

2. you enable mutlicore rendering, you get all your frames but there is the stuttering problem

3. VALVE FIXES THIS FUCKING ANNOYING BUG THAT MAKES THE GAME ALMOST UNPLAYABLE.
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