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Florida High School Shooting
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ghadilli If you think banning guns will do anything to help situations like this, then try it, but I guarantee that these people will still suffer, and some of them are still going to decide to kill people, they'll just use trucks, or explosives, or knives, or whatever else their uniquely damaged minds can come up with, because they think that hurting people is the only thing they can do. Treating the symptom will not accomplish anything.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html

you're a fucking idiot.

[quote=ghadilli] If you think banning guns will do anything to help situations like this, then try it, but I guarantee that these people will still suffer, and some of them are still going to decide to kill people, they'll just use trucks, or explosives, or knives, or whatever else their uniquely damaged minds can come up with, because they think that hurting people is the only thing they can do. Treating the symptom will not accomplish anything.[/quote]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html

you're a fucking idiot.
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#60

I like how you wrote a bunch of paragraphs about something I just thought was funny and ignored the graph of 5 years of mass shootings happening every single month and Congress failing to enact a single change, even something as common sense as closing genuine loopholes in the current laws.

Also yes I vote for (and donate to) gun control advocates, it's almost like democracy is more than a single vote though. Almost like people can discuss things maturely on various sites and do those things simultaneously as well.

Your other examples like the explosives & knives and what not aren't very compelling because they're not as ideal to mass kill with for a variety of reasons whether that be difficulty to acquire (i.e. the explosives, ya I'm sure your common high school kid is gonna go find some C4 just laying around his house or go buy/hand make his own...sure..that's gonna be REAL COMMON) or difficulty to mass kill with (i.e. the knives, you're not going to very easily kill 17 people with a knife and a knife is way easier for a group of people to stop). You can't sit on the top of a building and kill a ton of people with a knife to go back to the Las Vegas mass shooting either.

Also saying we shouldn't have better gun control because people would still kill others is like arguing we shouldn't have laws against murder because people still do it. Laws are a deterrent in the first place, and yeah people are still going to suffer even with better laws but if substantially less people suffer it is worth it. To expect a law to block 100% of something is kinda dumb, but what's wrong with it deterring even something like 50-75% of mass shootings? That's a lot of people that you'd be letting live year to year.

There's too many other countries that have viable gun control laws that have effectively either neutered or massively reduced mass shootings to say that "treating the symptom will not accomplish anything". If you make it so acquiring guns is more expensive/difficult, you're going to substantially curb gun related deaths because most criminals are lazy & poor & also usually unintelligent. You'll notice that most of these mass related shootings actually don't entail illegal (from a purchasing aspect, weapons civilians just aren't allowed to have in general) weaponry, even if these illegal weapons would be more ideal at actually mass killing....because they don't invest the time/energy/money into acquiring those. They just acquire the easier legal ones even if they are less ideal for murder.

I've had friends die in incidents like this so I'm not particularly interested in your "there's nothing we can do" bs, sorry. There's a lot we can do just politicians enjoy being funded heavily by the NRA and America has had terrible mental health care support. You can feel free to sit there and keep voting for congressmen that are willing to do nothing and hope it isn't your own kids that get shot in the future if that suits you though.

#60

I like how you wrote a bunch of paragraphs about something I just thought was funny and ignored the graph of 5 years of mass shootings happening every single month and Congress failing to enact a single change, even something as common sense as closing [i]genuine loopholes[/i] in the current laws.

Also yes I vote for (and donate to) gun control advocates, it's almost like democracy is more than a single vote though. Almost like people can discuss things maturely on various sites and do those things simultaneously as well.

Your other examples like the explosives & knives and what not aren't very compelling because they're not as ideal to mass kill with for a variety of reasons whether that be difficulty to acquire (i.e. the explosives, ya I'm sure your common high school kid is gonna go find some C4 just laying around his house or go buy/hand make his own...sure..that's gonna be REAL COMMON) or difficulty to mass kill with (i.e. the knives, you're not going to very easily kill 17 people with a knife and a knife is way easier for a group of people to stop). You can't sit on the top of a building and kill a ton of people with a knife to go back to the Las Vegas mass shooting either.

Also saying we shouldn't have better gun control because people would still kill others is like arguing we shouldn't have laws against murder because people still do it. Laws are a deterrent in the first place, and yeah people are still going to suffer even with better laws but if substantially less people suffer it is worth it. To expect a law to block 100% of something is kinda dumb, but what's wrong with it deterring even something like 50-75% of mass shootings? That's a lot of people that you'd be letting live year to year.

There's too many other countries that have viable gun control laws that have effectively either neutered or massively reduced mass shootings to say that "treating the symptom will not accomplish anything". If you make it so acquiring guns is more expensive/difficult, you're going to substantially curb gun related deaths because most criminals are lazy & poor & also usually unintelligent. You'll notice that most of these mass related shootings actually don't entail illegal (from a purchasing aspect, weapons civilians just aren't allowed to have in general) weaponry, even if these illegal weapons would be more ideal at actually mass killing....because they don't invest the time/energy/money into acquiring those. They just acquire the easier legal ones even if they are less ideal for murder.

I've had friends die in incidents like this so I'm not particularly interested in your "there's nothing we can do" bs, sorry. There's a lot we can do just politicians enjoy being funded heavily by the NRA and America has had terrible mental health care support. You can feel free to sit there and keep voting for congressmen that are willing to do nothing and hope it isn't your own kids that get shot in the future if that suits you though.
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