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CPU/Motherboard Question.
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#31
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Well the whole "brands don't matter" still applies though. I mean you've got to get some RAM.

As you already know a non-overclocked i5 won't really help, +5% best case for the 6600 over the 6320, so it's 6600K or nothing. The problem is that 6600K + Z170 mobo (otherwise no overclocking) + RAM will already use up all of your budget and then you still need a cooler because the 6600K doesn't come with one. Maybe you can squeeze a low end cooler in the budget but then you end up not being able to overclock much. Even factoring in the mobo and RAM from the top of my head I'd say it'll be 50% higher cost for 10% higher performance.

Well the whole "brands don't matter" still applies though. I mean you've got to get some RAM.

As you already know a non-overclocked i5 won't really help, +5% best case for the 6600 over the 6320, so it's 6600K or nothing. The problem is that 6600K + Z170 mobo (otherwise no overclocking) + RAM will already use up all of your budget and then you still need a cooler because the 6600K doesn't come with one. Maybe you can squeeze a low end cooler in the budget but then you end up not being able to overclock much. Even factoring in the mobo and RAM from the top of my head I'd say it'll be 50% higher cost for 10% higher performance.
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#32
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SetsulRecommending RAM by brand just makes no sense.

I wouldn't completely agree. Things like warranty policies for each manufacturer are pretty important. I'd spend $5 more for brand X over brand Y if brand X has a 5 year warranty while brand Y only has a 2 year one.

Similarly, researching specific brands will let you know which memory brands each one uses, which further will allow you to find out which might be more reliable over others.

Brand definitely matters, just not to performance. Kind of like power supplies, although not quite as intense.

[quote=Setsul]
Recommending RAM by brand just makes no sense.[/quote]
I wouldn't completely agree. Things like warranty policies for each manufacturer are pretty important. I'd spend $5 more for brand X over brand Y if brand X has a 5 year warranty while brand Y only has a 2 year one.

Similarly, researching specific brands will let you know which memory brands each one uses, which further will allow you to find out which might be more reliable over others.

Brand definitely matters, just not to performance. Kind of like power supplies, although not quite as intense.
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#33
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There's no point in making a thread if you're not interested in taking the advice. Also that German dude sure seems like a typical "know it all douche". There is nothing wrong with recommending well reviewed brands no matter the part. It's down to the individual if they decide to go with it, WHY you bothered to take time out to call me out is beyond me.

There's no point in making a thread if you're not interested in taking the advice. Also that German dude sure seems like a typical "know it all douche". There is nothing wrong with recommending well reviewed brands no matter the part. It's down to the individual if they decide to go with it, WHY you bothered to take time out to call me out is beyond me.
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#34
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MilanThere's no point in making a thread if you're not interested in taking the advice. Also that German dude sure seems like a typical "know it all douche". There is nothing wrong with recommending well reviewed brands no matter the part. It's down to the individual if they decide to go with it, WHY you bothered to take time out to call me out is beyond me.

Setsul is one of the resident computer build angels here at tftv. Please dont flame him and cause the help we all learned to appreciate and love to go away.

He takes a lot of time to help with technical issues and give good reccomendations. He is knowledgeable and helpful and decided to help answer your question. I dont see how this is needed.

[quote=Milan]There's no point in making a thread if you're not interested in taking the advice. Also that German dude sure seems like a typical "know it all douche". There is nothing wrong with recommending well reviewed brands no matter the part. It's down to the individual if they decide to go with it, WHY you bothered to take time out to call me out is beyond me.[/quote]

Setsul is one of the resident computer build angels here at tftv. Please dont flame him and cause the help we all learned to appreciate and love to go away.

He takes a lot of time to help with technical issues and give good reccomendations. He is knowledgeable and helpful and decided to help answer your question. I dont see how this is needed.
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#32
That's you personal preference.
Two problems with that:
1. Failure rates for RAM are <2% average, even the worst offenders don't break 5%. So 5$ for better warranty and statistically you're guaranteed to make a loss, unless you're buying RAM for >100$.
2. Because the failure rates are so low everyone and their mother offers a lifetime warranty on RAM. Kingston and Corsair do, as you probably know, but so do Crucial, G.Skill, Mushkin and even fucking Team Group.

Also don't try to figure out which DRAM is used on what model. Even Kingston switches the memory whenever they feel like it on consumer models. So same model number, different memory. Unless you get the shop to tell you the serial number you're out of luck.
Enterprise is different, for compatibility reasons (fucking RDIMMS).

#33
See above. Lifetime means lifetime. And HyperX means you're paying for fancy heatspreaders. Even if you want Kingston, if you can find "ValueRAM" with the same specs, it will be cheaper, since they're the same without heatspreaders.

I'm mostly mad about the "b15m msi motherboard" because someone will look for that, not find it and just get the most expensive MSI mobo they can find. Don't laugh, I've seen it happen.

#32
That's you personal preference.
Two problems with that:
1. Failure rates for RAM are <2% average, even the worst offenders don't break 5%. So 5$ for better warranty and statistically you're guaranteed to make a loss, unless you're buying RAM for >100$.
2. Because the failure rates are so low everyone and their mother offers a lifetime warranty on RAM. Kingston and Corsair do, as you probably know, but so do Crucial, G.Skill, Mushkin and even fucking Team Group.

Also don't try to figure out which DRAM is used on what model. Even Kingston switches the memory whenever they feel like it on consumer models. So same model number, different memory. Unless you get the shop to tell you the serial number you're out of luck.
Enterprise is different, for compatibility reasons (fucking RDIMMS).

#33
See above. Lifetime means lifetime. And HyperX means you're paying for fancy heatspreaders. Even if you want Kingston, if you can find "ValueRAM" with the same specs, it will be cheaper, since they're the same without heatspreaders.

I'm mostly mad about the "b15m msi motherboard" because someone will look for that, not find it and just get the most expensive MSI mobo they can find. Don't laugh, I've seen it happen.
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