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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_Mbe9u-vE&list=UUvtTGZEcS8mbWdB7prg4QNw

Edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw

Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told explaining the politics behind it
edit 2: just raising awareness, open to discussion

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WN_Mbe9u-vE&list=UUvtTGZEcS8mbWdB7prg4QNw[/youtube]
Edit: [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw[/youtube] Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told explaining the politics behind it
edit 2: just raising awareness, open to discussion
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I went speechless at 6:01. I can't believe things like this are happening in 2014.

Edit: holy fuck 13:30

What's worse is that shit like this is being supported by the U.S.

I went speechless at 6:01. I can't believe things like this are happening in 2014.

Edit: holy fuck 13:30

What's worse is that shit like this is being supported by the U.S.
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heavy stuff, so is like someone doing something

heavy stuff, so is like someone doing something
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I couldn't keep watching after 6:00, that shit made me weak.

I couldn't keep watching after 6:00, that shit made me weak.
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Im not so familiar with this. And the video made me uncomfortable.
How and why is this supported by the US if that isn't bullshit propaganda?

Im not so familiar with this. And the video made me uncomfortable.
How and why is this supported by the US if that isn't bullshit propaganda?
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nickplusIm not so familiar with this. And the video made me uncomfortable.
How and why is this supported by the US if that isn't bullshit propaganda?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw

Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told

[quote=nickplus]Im not so familiar with this. And the video made me uncomfortable.
How and why is this supported by the US if that isn't bullshit propaganda?[/quote]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWkfpGCAAuw[/youtube] Ukraine Crisis - What You're Not Being Told
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What the fuck they're just mowing people down this makes me sick

What the fuck they're just mowing people down this makes me sick
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Can someone explain the politics behind this?

Can someone explain the politics behind this?
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#10
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do be aware that globalresearch is kinda a questionable organization
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca

of course, this doesn't mean there isn't a Ukraine crisis but I wouldn't take a stance based on that first video.

do be aware that globalresearch is kinda a questionable organization
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca

of course, this doesn't mean there isn't a Ukraine crisis but I wouldn't take a stance based on that first video.
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"especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources."

lmao lets move along here

Like seriously the website supports some really out there stuff

edit: this was on P2D2s steam profile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

i think we've found ourselves a conspiracy nut

[quote=]"especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources."
[/quote]

lmao lets move along here

Like seriously the website supports some really out there stuff

edit: this was on P2D2s steam profile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

i think we've found ourselves a conspiracy nut
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What the actual fuck is happening over in Ukraine?

What the actual fuck is happening over in Ukraine?
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Tommunist"especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources."
lmao lets move along here

Like seriously the website supports some really out there stuff

edit: this was on P2D2s steam profile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

i think we've found ourselves a conspiracy nut

Eastern Europe is seriously fucked up (has been for the past few hundred years tbqh), and the US has a recent history of supporting problem militant groups. There's not many good things going on there, and brushing off videos like this (even if the tone is quite sensationalist) as crack conspiracy theory isn't doing anyone any good.

[quote=Tommunist][quote=]"especially in relation to taking its news from Russia Today, along with other unreliable and/or open sources."
[/quote]

lmao lets move along here

Like seriously the website supports some really out there stuff

edit: this was on P2D2s steam profile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

i think we've found ourselves a conspiracy nut[/quote]

Eastern Europe is seriously fucked up (has been for the past few hundred years tbqh), and the US has a recent history of supporting problem militant groups. There's not many good things going on there, and brushing off videos like this (even if the tone is quite sensationalist) as crack conspiracy theory isn't doing anyone any good.
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SpyromancerEastern Europe is seriously fucked up (has been for the past few hundred years tbqh), and the US has a recent history of supporting problem militant groups. There's not many good things going on there, and brushing off videos like this (even if the tone is quite sensationalist) as crack conspiracy theory isn't doing anyone any good.

Its using russia today as a source of infomation which is a kremlin mouthpiece, its so biased and sensationalist its gross.

We bring to the attention of Global Research Readers a video on the atrocities committed in Eastern Ukraine. The mainstream media is silent on the issue. These videos are the object of censorship. Ukraine's National Guard which is supported by the West is controlled by Neo-Nazis with Nazi emblems

Its literally a propaganda video

[quote=Spyromancer]
Eastern Europe is seriously fucked up (has been for the past few hundred years tbqh), and the US has a recent history of supporting problem militant groups. There's not many good things going on there, and brushing off videos like this (even if the tone is quite sensationalist) as crack conspiracy theory isn't doing anyone any good.[/quote]
Its using russia today as a source of infomation which is a kremlin mouthpiece, its so biased and sensationalist its gross.


[quote=]We bring to the attention of Global Research Readers a video on the atrocities committed in Eastern Ukraine. The mainstream media is silent on the issue. These videos are the object of censorship. Ukraine's National Guard which is supported by the West is controlled by Neo-Nazis with Nazi emblems[/quote]

Its literally a propaganda video
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TommunistSpyromancerEastern Europe is seriously fucked up (has been for the past few hundred years tbqh), and the US has a recent history of supporting problem militant groups. There's not many good things going on there, and brushing off videos like this (even if the tone is quite sensationalist) as crack conspiracy theory isn't doing anyone any good.Its using russia today as a source of infomation which is a kremlin mouthpiece, its so biased and sensationalist its gross.We bring to the attention of Global Research Readers a video on the atrocities committed in Eastern Ukraine. The mainstream media is silent on the issue. These videos are the object of censorship. Ukraine's National Guard which is supported by the West is controlled by Neo-Nazis with Nazi emblems
Its literally a propaganda video

Should have based your post on that rather than knocking on P2D2's youtube views and making vague statements. It's very likely that it's Russian propaganda trying to smudge the west (seriously, their media manipulation is gross), but it's not as if America didn't have their hands all up in shit like Pinochet and the Taliban. There's more wrong than right on either side afaik, but it's definitely wise to take "alternative news sites" with a grain of salt.

[quote=Tommunist][quote=Spyromancer]
Eastern Europe is seriously fucked up (has been for the past few hundred years tbqh), and the US has a recent history of supporting problem militant groups. There's not many good things going on there, and brushing off videos like this (even if the tone is quite sensationalist) as crack conspiracy theory isn't doing anyone any good.[/quote]
Its using russia today as a source of infomation which is a kremlin mouthpiece, its so biased and sensationalist its gross.
[quote=]We bring to the attention of Global Research Readers a video on the atrocities committed in Eastern Ukraine. The mainstream media is silent on the issue. These videos are the object of censorship. Ukraine's National Guard which is supported by the West is controlled by Neo-Nazis with Nazi emblems[/quote]

Its literally a propaganda video[/quote]
Should have based your post on that rather than knocking on P2D2's youtube views and making vague statements. It's very likely that it's Russian propaganda trying to smudge the west (seriously, their media manipulation is gross), but it's not as if America didn't have their hands all up in shit like Pinochet and the Taliban. There's more wrong than right on either side afaik, but it's definitely wise to take "alternative news sites" with a grain of salt.
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its all politics. this video is pretty biased, the truth is it's fucked up on both sides. I personally think the US should intervene directly with authority (which i am doubtful the Obama Administration can pull off), or step back and see if the UN can deal with it.

its all politics. this video is pretty biased, the truth is it's fucked up on both sides. I personally think the US should intervene directly with authority (which i am doubtful the Obama Administration can pull off), or step back and see if the UN can deal with it.
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I was watching the stuff from Vice early on but holy shit I didn't know it was this serious.

I was watching the stuff from Vice early on but holy shit I didn't know it was this serious.
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#18
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Yo, war is bloody and has innocent victims.
In other news, sitting on tacks hurts.

Yo, war is bloody and has innocent victims.
In other news, sitting on tacks hurts.
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I remember watching some videos from vice covering Ukraine here is the playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw613M86o5o7DfgzuUCd_PVwbOCDO472B

I remember watching some videos from vice covering Ukraine here is the playlist:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw613M86o5o7DfgzuUCd_PVwbOCDO472B
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War never changes, unfortunately.

War never changes, unfortunately.
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Im not going to watch this, hey maybe some of it is actually true but I found this 9/11 conspiracy video made by Global research TV, whenever i see something like this its an almost instant nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJiKbK0tVM

Im not going to watch this, hey maybe some of it is actually true but I found this 9/11 conspiracy video made by Global research TV, whenever i see something like this its an almost instant nope.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrJiKbK0tVM[/youtube]
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holy fuck...

holy fuck...
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Not sure why people are so surprised by this.... like pay attention to something other then your local news or even the big country wide news stations for that matter, all they care about is pumping up X or Y in that country its shit. The world has so many problems and so many people are blind to it, Nazis/fascists are still a massive thing in east Europe and on top of that the area is mostly under military rule and conflict 24/7. Its fucking war not much else to be said I just think that its sad and remarkably incompetent that people are so blind to actual world problems because "news didn't tell us". Also the states needs to keep its fucking dick out of the situation all they will do is make it worse the UN is a Peace Keeping force for a reason...

Welcome to the world and the fall of Rome guys people don't learn

Not sure why people are so surprised by this.... like pay attention to something other then your local news or even the big country wide news stations for that matter, all they care about is pumping up X or Y in that country its shit. The world has so many problems and so many people are blind to it, Nazis/fascists are still a massive thing in east Europe and on top of that the area is mostly under military rule and conflict 24/7. Its fucking war not much else to be said I just think that its sad and remarkably incompetent that people are so blind to actual world problems because "news didn't tell us". Also the states needs to keep its fucking dick out of the situation all they will do is make it worse the UN is a [i]Peace Keeping[/i] force for a reason...


Welcome to the world and the fall of Rome guys people don't learn
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If anyone is having issues with the video, embedded via firefox seems to not be working, but directly from youtube does work.

If anyone is having issues with the video, embedded via firefox seems to not be working, but directly from youtube does work.
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I've got a friend who's living in eastern Ukraine. Last time I talked to him (about a month ago) the pro Russian paramilitary forces had taken over his city.

I'll try to get his input on these videos when I see him online next.

I've got a friend who's living in eastern Ukraine. Last time I talked to him (about a month ago) the pro Russian paramilitary forces had taken over his city.

I'll try to get his input on these videos when I see him online next.
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its just not Ukraine. troops are mobilizing in Isreal on the Gaza strip. The Palestines shot 60 rocket on the strip in 1 hour. the whole world is in unrest but its masked and shielded by the world cup and other bullshit to keep our minds off it.

its just not Ukraine. troops are mobilizing in Isreal on the Gaza strip. The Palestines shot 60 rocket on the strip in 1 hour. the whole world is in unrest but its masked and shielded by the world cup and other bullshit to keep our minds off it.
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lol politics on tf2 forums

lol politics on tf2 forums
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#28
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There are always 2 sides to the story, don't forget. You can't just blame one side, most of the time both sides fucked up.

There are always 2 sides to the story, don't forget. You can't just blame one side, most of the time both sides fucked up.
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I thought people were smart enough nowadays to not start a war, to not kill civilians, in general to talk it out rather then just shooting. This makes me so sick and angry. I hope this ends soon.

I thought people were smart enough nowadays to not start a war, to not kill civilians, in general to talk it out rather then just shooting. This makes me so sick and angry. I hope this ends soon.
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#30
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The first video is blatant propaganda, The second is standard conspiracy garbage. either source is completely useless for factual information.

The first video is blatant propaganda, The second is standard conspiracy garbage. either source is completely useless for factual information.
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