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ESEA Quick Fix Ruling
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#271
18 Frags +

CHANGE MEDIC LIMIT TO 0
MAKE MEDIC A COMBAT CLASS
NO MORE STALEMATES IN TF2
METAGAME SHIFTS
DEEP STRATEGY
ESEA SEASON 15
COMING SOON

CHANGE MEDIC LIMIT TO 0
MAKE MEDIC A COMBAT CLASS
NO MORE STALEMATES IN TF2
METAGAME SHIFTS
DEEP STRATEGY
ESEA SEASON 15
COMING SOON
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#272
9 Frags +
BolwindCHANGE MEDIC LIMIT TO 0
MAKE MEDIC A COMBAT CLASS
NO MORE STALEMATES IN TF2
METAGAME SHIFTS
DEEP STRATEGY
ESEA SEASON 15
COMING SOON

The return of Conc Grenades???

[quote=Bolwind]CHANGE MEDIC LIMIT TO 0
MAKE MEDIC A COMBAT CLASS
NO MORE STALEMATES IN TF2
METAGAME SHIFTS
DEEP STRATEGY
ESEA SEASON 15
COMING SOON[/quote]
The return of Conc Grenades???
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#273
3 Frags +

Hey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.

Hey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.
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#274
11 Frags +
SneakyPolarBearHey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.

because maybe you would want do that strategy

maybe your opponent does as well

which means the defender will have an advantage

but what happens

if you both defend?

[quote=SneakyPolarBear]Hey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.[/quote]

because maybe you would want do that strategy

maybe your opponent does as well

which means the defender will have an advantage

but what happens

if you both defend?
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#275
5 Frags +

then you play the waiting game

then you play the waiting game
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#276
3 Frags +

Roamer spawns spy and disguises as medic, takes out sapper, and hits B. Tells you what medigun they are using. If you are fast, you can reach mid at the normal time (one medibeam length in front of your medic).

Your team runs kritz to mid regardless of their medigun.

If they QF, then you don't go to mid and just defend 2nd/yard. Get a pick and then just kritz into them or just wait for them to push you and kritz then.

If they run uber or kritz, go to mid and fight normally just like any other mid. If they are on uber obviously play with your demo passively and hope to get kritz fast and win mid with that. If they are on kritz its pretty much even, not much strategy you can have.

We did this in our match against pot's team and won two rounds in a row before they switched back to uber. You just can't win mids against an equal team if they run the QF and you don't.

Roamer spawns spy and disguises as medic, takes out sapper, and hits B. Tells you what medigun they are using. If you are fast, you can reach mid at the normal time (one medibeam length in front of your medic).

Your team runs kritz to mid regardless of their medigun.

If they QF, then you don't go to mid and just defend 2nd/yard. Get a pick and then just kritz into them or just wait for them to push you and kritz then.

If they run uber or kritz, go to mid and fight normally just like any other mid. If they are on uber obviously play with your demo passively and hope to get kritz fast and win mid with that. If they are on kritz its pretty much even, not much strategy you can have.

We did this in our match against pot's team and won two rounds in a row before they switched back to uber. You just can't win mids against an equal team if they run the QF and you don't.
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#277
-1 Frags +
SneakyPolarBearRoamer spawns spy and disguises as medic, takes out sapper, and hits B. Tells you what medigun they are using. If you are fast, you can reach mid at the normal time (one medibeam length in front of your medic).

Your team runs kritz to mid regardless of their medigun.

If they QF, then you don't go to mid and just defend 2nd/yard. Get a pick and then just kritz into them or just wait for them to push you and kritz then.

If they run uber or kritz, go to mid and fight normally just like any other mid. If they are on uber obviously play with your demo passively and hope to get kritz fast and win mid with that. If they are on kritz its pretty much even, not much strategy you can have.

We did this in our match against pot's team and won two rounds in a row before they switched back to uber. You just can't win mids against an equal team if they run the QF and you don't.

Med can spawn with quickfix and then on the cabinet tap change to medigun

[quote=SneakyPolarBear]Roamer spawns spy and disguises as medic, takes out sapper, and hits B. Tells you what medigun they are using. If you are fast, you can reach mid at the normal time (one medibeam length in front of your medic).

Your team runs kritz to mid regardless of their medigun.

If they QF, then you don't go to mid and just defend 2nd/yard. Get a pick and then just kritz into them or just wait for them to push you and kritz then.

If they run uber or kritz, go to mid and fight normally just like any other mid. If they are on uber obviously play with your demo passively and hope to get kritz fast and win mid with that. If they are on kritz its pretty much even, not much strategy you can have.

We did this in our match against pot's team and won two rounds in a row before they switched back to uber. You just can't win mids against an equal team if they run the QF and you don't.[/quote]

Med can spawn with quickfix and then on the cabinet tap change to medigun
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#278
0 Frags +

Sure that is viable as a surprise, but as soon as they do it one time you would just wait 10 secs, check again on spy, and then push with your kritz as they are capping mid and have your roamer come into the fight way late.

Also if they name mediguns the same thing, you can run a sniper and heavy on 2nd to force their uber/megaheal super early and then just recontest 2nd with kritz and use that momentum to take you into their points.

Sure that is viable as a surprise, but as soon as they do it one time you would just wait 10 secs, check again on spy, and then push with your kritz as they are capping mid and have your roamer come into the fight way late.

Also if they name mediguns the same thing, you can run a sniper and heavy on 2nd to force their uber/megaheal super early and then just recontest 2nd with kritz and use that momentum to take you into their points.
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#279
0 Frags +
SneakyPolarBearHey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.

So, I guess there is no midfight.

Just go QF, auto mid win.

[quote=SneakyPolarBear]Hey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.[/quote]
So, I guess there is no midfight.

Just go QF, auto mid win.
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#280
0 Frags +
SneakyPolarBearHey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.

Sounds very fun and interesting

[quote=SneakyPolarBear]Hey just run a heavy and kritz on second and don't go to mid. Problem solved.[/quote]
Sounds very fun and interesting
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#281
-3 Frags +

If you go to mid against the quickfix without your own quickfix, you SHOULD lose mid a large proportion of the time.

If you do go to mid with QF v QF, thats fine. My team just didn't want to practice it/hated running it so we made this solution.

If you go to mid against the quickfix without your own quickfix, you SHOULD lose mid a large proportion of the time.

If you do go to mid with QF v QF, thats fine. My team just didn't want to practice it/hated running it so we made this solution.
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#282
0 Frags +
kaiserRegHow is cp_highlands coming along? Have you made any drastic changes since a4?

Not that I remember. Only thing I can think of is A cap time, but I think I changed that for a4. Right now I'm doing an initial (as in, it's just a rough representation of what the map will look like) artpass so people know what direction the map is going artistically.

I'm also working on converting Badwater to A/D CP.

[quote=kaiserReg]
How is cp_highlands coming along? Have you made any drastic changes since a4?[/quote]
Not that I remember. Only thing I can think of is A cap time, but I think I changed that for a4. Right now I'm doing an initial (as in, it's just a rough representation of what the map will look like) artpass so people know what direction the map is going artistically.

I'm also working on converting Badwater to A/D CP.
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#283
Momentum Mod
6 Frags +

sneaky understanding the qf meta better than the actual meta

sneaky understanding the qf meta better than the actual meta
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#284
-3 Frags +

New solution is to agree with the teams you play beforehand never to use the QF.

The next evolution of the meta is here.

New solution is to agree with the teams you play beforehand never to use the QF.

The next evolution of the meta is here.
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