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The Mouse/Mousepad Thread (last updated Sep. 9, 2013)
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#181
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MightyThe most accurate Mice you can find on the market today (About everything else is unacceptable or bad):

- Microsoft WMO 1.1
- Microsoft IMO 1.1
- Microsoft IME 3.0
- Zowie FK
- Zowie AM
- Zowie FK1
- Zowie EC1 CL
- Zowie EC1 eVo
- Zowie EC2 CL
- Zowie EC2 eVo
- Razer Deathadder 3G
- Razer Deathadder 3.5G
- Razer Deathadder 2013
- Razer Abyssus
- Logitech G400
- Logitech G400s
- Logitech G502
- Steelseries Kana V2
- Steelseries Rival
- Mionix Avoir 7000
- Cooler Master Storm Spawn
- Cooler master Storm Alcor
- Roccat Savu
- Roccat Kone Pure Optical
- Roccat Kone Pure Military
- Mad Catz R.A.T. 3
- Corsair M45

All of these have Zero mouse acceleration, so they should be fantastic for gaming.

You've missed several mice. Probably the most obvious ones to me is the g402, g100s, and ninox aurora (granted this one has really buggy drivers).

[quote=Mighty]The most accurate Mice you can find on the market today (About everything else is unacceptable or bad):

- Microsoft WMO 1.1
- Microsoft IMO 1.1
- Microsoft IME 3.0
- Zowie FK
- Zowie AM
- Zowie FK1
- Zowie EC1 CL
- Zowie EC1 eVo
- Zowie EC2 CL
- Zowie EC2 eVo
- Razer Deathadder 3G
- Razer Deathadder 3.5G
- Razer Deathadder 2013
- Razer Abyssus
- Logitech G400
- Logitech G400s
- Logitech G502
- Steelseries Kana V2
- Steelseries Rival
- Mionix Avoir 7000
- Cooler Master Storm Spawn
- Cooler master Storm Alcor
- Roccat Savu
- Roccat Kone Pure Optical
- Roccat Kone Pure Military
- Mad Catz R.A.T. 3
- Corsair M45

All of these have Zero mouse acceleration, so they should be fantastic for gaming.[/quote]

You've missed several mice. Probably the most obvious ones to me is the g402, g100s, and ninox aurora (granted this one has really buggy drivers).
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#182
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MightyThe most accurate Mice you can find on the market today (About everything else is unacceptable or bad):

- Microsoft WMO 1.1
- Microsoft IMO 1.1
- Microsoft IME 3.0
- Zowie FK
- Zowie AM
- Zowie FK1
- Zowie EC1 CL
- Zowie EC1 eVo
- Zowie EC2 CL
- Zowie EC2 eVo
- Razer Deathadder 3G
- Razer Deathadder 3.5G
- Razer Deathadder 2013
- Razer Abyssus
- Logitech G400
- Logitech G400s
- Logitech G502
- Steelseries Kana V2
- Steelseries Rival
- Mionix Avoir 7000
- Cooler Master Storm Spawn
- Cooler master Storm Alcor
- Roccat Savu
- Roccat Kone Pure Optical
- Roccat Kone Pure Military
- Mad Catz R.A.T. 3
- Corsair M45

All of these have Zero mouse acceleration, so they should be fantastic for gaming.

Doesnt The Mionix Naos 7000 Have the same sensor as the avior, thus no mouse accel?

[quote=Mighty]The most accurate Mice you can find on the market today (About everything else is unacceptable or bad):

- Microsoft WMO 1.1
- Microsoft IMO 1.1
- Microsoft IME 3.0
- Zowie FK
- Zowie AM
- Zowie FK1
- Zowie EC1 CL
- Zowie EC1 eVo
- Zowie EC2 CL
- Zowie EC2 eVo
- Razer Deathadder 3G
- Razer Deathadder 3.5G
- Razer Deathadder 2013
- Razer Abyssus
- Logitech G400
- Logitech G400s
- Logitech G502
- Steelseries Kana V2
- Steelseries Rival
- Mionix Avoir 7000
- Cooler Master Storm Spawn
- Cooler master Storm Alcor
- Roccat Savu
- Roccat Kone Pure Optical
- Roccat Kone Pure Military
- Mad Catz R.A.T. 3
- Corsair M45

All of these have Zero mouse acceleration, so they should be fantastic for gaming.[/quote]

Doesnt The Mionix Naos 7000 Have the same sensor as the avior, thus no mouse accel?
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#183
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erkstonBucakeanyone any experience with aliminium pads?
what's the biggest aluminium pad you guys know of?
I won an In Win Rocker Mat in a raffle that I thought I would never use, but I ended up really liking and using over my old QcK. It's a little cold to the touch sometimes but other than that it's great. Not sure how big you're looking for but I think mine is 9"x 12" or so.

thanks alot for your suggestion!
i'm not sure if 12" x 9" would cut it for me, but i can't even find a source to buy this from :o

[quote=erkston][quote=Bucake]anyone any experience with aliminium pads?
what's the biggest aluminium pad you guys know of?[/quote]
I won an In Win Rocker Mat in a raffle that I thought I would never use, but I ended up really liking and using over my old QcK. It's a little cold to the touch sometimes but other than that it's great. Not sure how big you're looking for but I think mine is 9"x 12" or so.[/quote]

thanks alot for your suggestion!
i'm not sure if 12" x 9" would cut it for me, but i can't even find a source to buy this from :o
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#184
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Has anyone else here that has a G400s experienced issues with the sensor ? Specifically the tracking spazzing out sometimes when trying to do a fast flick motion like a rocket jump.

Has anyone else here that has a G400s experienced issues with the sensor ? Specifically the tracking spazzing out sometimes when trying to do a fast flick motion like a rocket jump.
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#185
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AntaresHas anyone else here that has a G400s experienced issues with the sensor ? Specifically the tracking spazzing out sometimes when trying to do a fast flick motion like a rocket jump.

the G400S i had was functioning just fine.

what surface (mouse mat/pad) are you using? some sensors and surfaces don't go well together.
what DPI and hertz settings are you using?
have you turned acceleration off in your OS and in your game?
are you using the logitech software/drivers?

[quote=Antares]Has anyone else here that has a G400s experienced issues with the sensor ? Specifically the tracking spazzing out sometimes when trying to do a fast flick motion like a rocket jump.[/quote]

the G400S i had was functioning just fine.

what surface (mouse mat/pad) are you using? some sensors and surfaces don't go well together.
what DPI and hertz settings are you using?
have you turned acceleration off in your OS and in your game?
are you using the logitech software/drivers?
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#186
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AntaresHas anyone else here that has a G400s experienced issues with the sensor ? Specifically the tracking spazzing out sometimes when trying to do a fast flick motion like a rocket jump.

I've never had that issue with a QCK+, or a XTRAC HAMMER

but i've had that issue with the XTRAC RIPPER XXL

I've posted a review a long time ago about the XTRAC RIPPER and it's poor tracking speed for mice. Corsair and Logitech Mousepads are fairly similar to XTRAC RIPPER cloth so I wouldn't be surprised if you had the issue on those either. Glasspads I've got no clue as I don't own one.

"Mice Tested:
G400s
G400
WMO 1.1a
Zowie FK
Logitech M-UAE96

Mousepads Tested:
XTRAC Ripper XXL
XTRAC Hammer
Steel Series QCK+
Custom Cloth Mousepad (of the generic cloth type)

With the G400s @400 DPI 1000Hz
Ripper XXL 3.2 m/s
QCK+ 4.6 m/s
Hammer 4.2 m/s
Custom 4.0 m/s

G400 @400DPI 1000Hz
Ripper XXL 2.8 m/s
QCK+ 4.2 m/s
Hammer 3.7 m/s
Custom 3.6 m/s

WMO 1.1a @400 DPI 125Hz
Ripper XXL 0.9 m/s
QCK+ 1.6 m/s
Hammer 1.3 m/s
Custom 1.2 m/s

Zowie FK @450 DPI 1000Hz
Ripper XXL 3.0 m/s
QCK+ 4.4 m/s
Hammer 3.9 m/s
Custom 3.7 m/s

Logitech M-UAE96 @400 DPI 125Hz
Ripper XXL 0.8 m/s
QCK+ 1.4 m/s
Hammer 1.0 m/s
Custom 1.0 m/s"

Posted that on Amazon via a friend prime account.

-edit-
If anyone has a Razer Goliathus Speed or Control and a G400s/G400 could test the max tracking speed the mice can get on those mousepads I would be grateful. I used the enotus mouse test for this (I had to do some math to get the numbers for the FK as an FYI)

[quote=Antares]Has anyone else here that has a G400s experienced issues with the sensor ? Specifically the tracking spazzing out sometimes when trying to do a fast flick motion like a rocket jump.[/quote]

I've never had that issue with a QCK+, or a XTRAC HAMMER

but i've had that issue with the XTRAC RIPPER XXL

I've posted a review a long time ago about the XTRAC RIPPER and it's poor tracking speed for mice. Corsair and Logitech Mousepads are fairly similar to XTRAC RIPPER cloth so I wouldn't be surprised if you had the issue on those either. Glasspads I've got no clue as I don't own one.

"Mice Tested:
G400s
G400
WMO 1.1a
Zowie FK
Logitech M-UAE96

Mousepads Tested:
XTRAC Ripper XXL
XTRAC Hammer
Steel Series QCK+
Custom Cloth Mousepad (of the generic cloth type)

With the G400s @400 DPI 1000Hz
Ripper XXL 3.2 m/s
QCK+ 4.6 m/s
Hammer 4.2 m/s
Custom 4.0 m/s

G400 @400DPI 1000Hz
Ripper XXL 2.8 m/s
QCK+ 4.2 m/s
Hammer 3.7 m/s
Custom 3.6 m/s

WMO 1.1a @400 DPI 125Hz
Ripper XXL 0.9 m/s
QCK+ 1.6 m/s
Hammer 1.3 m/s
Custom 1.2 m/s

Zowie FK @450 DPI 1000Hz
Ripper XXL 3.0 m/s
QCK+ 4.4 m/s
Hammer 3.9 m/s
Custom 3.7 m/s

Logitech M-UAE96 @400 DPI 125Hz
Ripper XXL 0.8 m/s
QCK+ 1.4 m/s
Hammer 1.0 m/s
Custom 1.0 m/s"

Posted that on Amazon via a friend prime account.

-edit-
If anyone has a Razer Goliathus Speed or Control and a G400s/G400 could test the max tracking speed the mice can get on those mousepads I would be grateful. I used the enotus mouse test for this (I had to do some math to get the numbers for the FK as an FYI)
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#187
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So... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

edit: I'm a palm grip

So... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

edit: I'm a palm grip
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#188
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DaStabahSo... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/22101/zowie-gear-releases-ec1-a-and-ec2-a

This looks pretty promising, I'm probably going to get one soon myself.

[quote=DaStabah]So... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared[/quote]

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/22101/zowie-gear-releases-ec1-a-and-ec2-a

This looks pretty promising, I'm probably going to get one soon myself.
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#189
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DaStabahSo... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

edit: I'm a palm grip

if you liked your G400S, then: G400 / G400S / G402 / G502
otherwise slemnish his suggestion could be good. you should check it out :)

[quote=DaStabah]So... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

edit: I'm a palm grip[/quote]

if you liked your G400S, then: G400 / G400S / G402 / G502
otherwise slemnish his suggestion could be good. you should check it out :)
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#190
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DaStabahSo... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

edit: I'm a palm grip

Send your g400s back and they will send you a g402. They're way more durable than the g400 and feel very similar even though they look different.

[quote=DaStabah]So... My g400s died today. Both mouse buttons stopped working, pretty sure it shorted b/c when I went inside and pressed the switches manually, it still wouldn't click.

Any suggestions for mice? The OP seems to have disappeared

edit: I'm a palm grip[/quote]

Send your g400s back and they will send you a g402. They're way more durable than the g400 and feel very similar even though they look different.
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#191
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Do the ec1-a and the fk2 use different Sensors ?
It says they both use the avago adns 3310 everywhere.
But since the fk1 also uses the adns 3310, and zowie says that they upgraded the sensor going from the fk1 to fk2 im confused now.
Are there any Sensor differences/advantages between the fk2 and ec1-a ?

Do the ec1-a and the fk2 use different Sensors ?
It says they both use the avago adns 3310 everywhere.
But since the fk1 also uses the adns 3310, and zowie says that they upgraded the sensor going from the fk1 to fk2 im confused now.
Are there any Sensor differences/advantages between the fk2 and ec1-a ?
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#192
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fk1 and fk2 are the same, internally. they both use the 3310, just like the ec1-a.
maybe you've misread, or misunderstood. otherwise, you were misinformed.

the only difference is the shape, because (i believe) all 3 mice use the same coating now.

fk1 and fk2 are the same, internally. they both use the 3310, just like the ec1-a.
maybe you've misread, or misunderstood. otherwise, you were misinformed.

the only difference is the shape, because (i believe) all 3 mice use the same coating now.
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#193
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Alright thx m8 :)

Alright thx m8 :)
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#194
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kounterpartsMightyThe most accurate Mice you can find on the market today (About everything else is unacceptable or bad):

- Microsoft WMO 1.1
- Microsoft IMO 1.1
- Microsoft IME 3.0
- Zowie FK
- Zowie AM
- Zowie FK1
- Zowie EC1 CL
- Zowie EC1 eVo
- Zowie EC2 CL
- Zowie EC2 eVo
- Razer Deathadder 3G
- Razer Deathadder 3.5G
- Razer Deathadder 2013
- Razer Abyssus
- Logitech G400
- Logitech G400s
- Logitech G502
- Steelseries Kana V2
- Steelseries Rival
- Mionix Avoir 7000
- Cooler Master Storm Spawn
- Cooler master Storm Alcor
- Roccat Savu
- Roccat Kone Pure Optical
- Roccat Kone Pure Military
- Mad Catz R.A.T. 3
- Corsair M45

All of these have Zero mouse acceleration, so they should be fantastic for gaming.

Doesnt The Mionix Naos 7000 Have the same sensor as the avior, thus no mouse accel?

I have a steelseries sensei raw, it has no mouse accel (I'm pretty sure) and I have a lot of friends who moved to CS who use it. It's really good, I think it deserves an add to the list

[quote=kounterparts][quote=Mighty]The most accurate Mice you can find on the market today (About everything else is unacceptable or bad):

- Microsoft WMO 1.1
- Microsoft IMO 1.1
- Microsoft IME 3.0
- Zowie FK
- Zowie AM
- Zowie FK1
- Zowie EC1 CL
- Zowie EC1 eVo
- Zowie EC2 CL
- Zowie EC2 eVo
- Razer Deathadder 3G
- Razer Deathadder 3.5G
- Razer Deathadder 2013
- Razer Abyssus
- Logitech G400
- Logitech G400s
- Logitech G502
- Steelseries Kana V2
- Steelseries Rival
- Mionix Avoir 7000
- Cooler Master Storm Spawn
- Cooler master Storm Alcor
- Roccat Savu
- Roccat Kone Pure Optical
- Roccat Kone Pure Military
- Mad Catz R.A.T. 3
- Corsair M45

All of these have Zero mouse acceleration, so they should be fantastic for gaming.[/quote]

Doesnt The Mionix Naos 7000 Have the same sensor as the avior, thus no mouse accel?[/quote]

I have a steelseries sensei raw, it has no mouse accel (I'm pretty sure) and I have a lot of friends who moved to CS who use it. It's really good, I think it deserves an add to the list
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#195
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omnifickounterpartsMighty-snip-
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I have a steelseries sensei raw, it has no mouse accel (I'm pretty sure) and I have a lot of friends who moved to CS who use it. It's really good, I think it deserves an add to the list

http://www.overclock.net/t/1299014/steelseries-sensei-raw#post_18025761 (I respect this guy's word on mice and sensors in general more than anyone else on this and that forum)

Also it's a laser mouse it HAS mouse accel no matter what.

[quote=omnific][quote=kounterparts][quote=Mighty]-snip-[/quote]

-snip-[/quote]

I have a steelseries sensei raw, it has no mouse accel (I'm pretty sure) and I have a lot of friends who moved to CS who use it. It's really good, I think it deserves an add to the list[/quote]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1299014/steelseries-sensei-raw#post_18025761 (I respect this guy's word on mice and sensors in general more than anyone else on this and that forum)

Also it's a laser mouse it HAS mouse accel no matter what.
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#196
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Are there any really big, reliable, high quality mousepads? I'm talking like 20+ inches. I'd like one, but I don't see any in either this thread or most places that are widely recommended. The popular ones are all 12-14 inches, which I can deal with but would prefer not to. The few 20 inch+ mousepads I see have very few reviews so I'm a bit wary.

Are there any really big, reliable, high quality mousepads? I'm talking like 20+ inches. I'd like one, but I don't see any in either this thread or most places that are widely recommended. The popular ones are all 12-14 inches, which I can deal with but would prefer not to. The few 20 inch+ mousepads I see have very few reviews so I'm a bit wary.
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#197
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MankutAre there any really big, reliable, high quality mousepads? I'm talking like 20+ inches. I'd like one, but I don't see any in either this thread or most places that are widely recommended. The popular ones are all 12-14 inches, which I can deal with but would prefer not to. The few 20 inch+ mousepads I see have very few reviews so I'm a bit wary.

This one is pretty large, and it has an extra thick option as well.
It has quite a few reviews, and a majority of them are very favorable (other than the logo in the corner)

[quote=Mankut]Are there any really big, reliable, high quality mousepads? I'm talking like 20+ inches. I'd like one, but I don't see any in either this thread or most places that are widely recommended. The popular ones are all 12-14 inches, which I can deal with but would prefer not to. The few 20 inch+ mousepads I see have very few reviews so I'm a bit wary.[/quote]

[url=http://www.amazon.com/Glorious-Extended-Gaming-Mouse-Mat/dp/B00J2EF4K6/ref=pd_sim_op_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0NDFS4CFF6BGDHTPFF32&tag=teamfortresst-20]This one is pretty large, and it has an extra thick option as well. [/url]
It has quite a few reviews, and a majority of them are very favorable (other than the logo in the corner)
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#198
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@Mankut
the corepad deskpad xxxxl has always served me very well.
it tracks like a pro. i've never had any issues, with 6 different mice.
of course the anti-slip rubber works fine as well.
after more than a year, mine only has some (very, very) light wearing on the edge where my right arm meets the pad.
the wear would probably not even be there if the pad wasn't so close to the edge of my table.

i've started using hard pad some time ago, but i still have the corepad lying on my desk, simply for comfort :>
it doesn't get cold (unlike my glass table), and of course the material is nicely soft.
as a bonus, it serves as a mild sound-absorber for when you type ;p
here's a pic that shows how large it is: le bureau.
i suppose it might be too large, but i figured i might as well share my experience.

PS: kut means vagina (cunt) in Dutch. Mancunt.

@Mankut
the [url=http://www.corepad.com/index.php?pagina=artikel&id=162]corepad deskpad xxxxl[/url] has always served me very well.
it tracks like a pro. i've never had any issues, with 6 different mice.
of course the anti-slip rubber works fine as well.
after more than a year, mine only has some (very, very) light wearing on the edge where my right arm meets the pad.
the wear would probably not even be there if the pad wasn't so close to the edge of my table.

i've started using hard pad some time ago, but i still have the corepad lying on my desk, simply for comfort :>
it doesn't get cold (unlike my glass table), and of course the material is nicely soft.
as a bonus, it serves as a mild sound-absorber for when you type ;p
here's a pic that shows how large it is: [url=http://i.imgur.com/S2BuXzw.jpg]le bureau[/url].
i suppose it might be too large, but i figured i might as well share my experience.

PS: kut means vagina (cunt) in Dutch. Mancunt.
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#199
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The mionix sargas 900 is fantastic. It's microfiber so my mouse glides super well, and feels really good.

The mionix sargas 900 is fantastic. It's microfiber so my mouse glides super well, and feels really good.
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#200
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Mionix Ensis 320 Heard some really good things from this Hard Mouse Pad, probably getting it soon.

The Naos 7000 from Mionix is excellent, the sensor is amazing, almost no hw accel, tons of dpi options, flows great on my QcK, the only issue is that I have gigantic fingers, and still dont feel comfortable using this mouse unless Im really relaxed. When claw you just sorta rest your fingers on the pertruding parts of the mouse. And the turn up DPI button gets in the way sometimes, you can disable this though. Overall, great mouse.

[url=http://mionix.net/surface/ensis-320/]Mionix Ensis 320[/url] Heard some really good things from this Hard Mouse Pad, probably getting it soon.

The Naos 7000 from Mionix is excellent, the sensor is amazing, almost no hw accel, tons of dpi options, flows great on my QcK, the only issue is that I have gigantic fingers, and still dont feel comfortable using this mouse unless Im really relaxed. When claw you just sorta rest your fingers on the pertruding parts of the mouse. And the turn up DPI button gets in the way sometimes, you can disable this though. Overall, great mouse.
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#201
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Just as a quick correction, the Naos 7000 has zero sensor acceleration (save a very small consistent acceleration persistent in every sensor); the 3310 is effectively flawless in every respect. The only major sensor issue would be excessive smoothing present with the initial release of the Naos/Avior due to the 7000 cpi SROM implemented by Mionix, which has since been reduced to effectively negligible levels with past firmware updates.

Just as a quick correction, the Naos 7000 has zero sensor acceleration (save a very small consistent acceleration persistent in every sensor); the 3310 is effectively flawless in every respect. The only major sensor issue would be excessive smoothing present with the initial release of the Naos/Avior due to the 7000 cpi SROM implemented by Mionix, which has since been reduced to effectively negligible levels with past firmware updates.
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#202
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Thinking of replacing my Deathadder 2013 with a Microsoft IME 3.0, but I have heard some complaints about the longevity of the WMO 1.1, IMO 1.1 and the IME 3.0. Are there any physical flaws with the mice or are they as perfect as described?

Thinking of replacing my Deathadder 2013 with a Microsoft IME 3.0, but I have heard some complaints about the longevity of the WMO 1.1, IMO 1.1 and the IME 3.0. Are there any physical flaws with the mice or are they as perfect as described?
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#203
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Longevity is one of the plusses. My wmo is like 8+ years old I think, nothing wrong yet.

Longevity is one of the plusses. My wmo is like 8+ years old I think, nothing wrong yet.
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#204
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Been looking into getting an aluminum pad but not sure which one. I want something large than 12" horizontally and can work on optical sensors. Was looking into getting the SlamePad but it's not sold in the US and I want to make sure it's a good investment with $60-70.

I thought about just grabbing a piece of anodized aluminum and gluing some rubber to the bottom but apparently it needs to be coated with something for mice to track well on it so idk.

Been looking into getting an aluminum pad but not sure which one. I want something large than 12" horizontally and can work on optical sensors. Was looking into getting the SlamePad but it's not sold in the US and I want to make sure it's a good investment with $60-70.

I thought about just grabbing a piece of anodized aluminum and gluing some rubber to the bottom but apparently it needs to be coated with something for mice to track well on it so idk.
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#205
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rshadesThinking of replacing my Deathadder 2013 with a Microsoft IME 3.0, but I have heard some complaints about the longevity of the WMO 1.1, IMO 1.1 and the IME 3.0. Are there any physical flaws with the mice or are they as perfect as described?

Imes have great build quality, only downside is side buttons are wobbly

[quote=rshades]Thinking of replacing my Deathadder 2013 with a Microsoft IME 3.0, but I have heard some complaints about the longevity of the WMO 1.1, IMO 1.1 and the IME 3.0. Are there any physical flaws with the mice or are they as perfect as described?[/quote]

Imes have great build quality, only downside is side buttons are wobbly
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#206
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ComangliaomnifickounterpartsMighty-snip-
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I have a steelseries sensei raw, it has no mouse accel (I'm pretty sure) and I have a lot of friends who moved to CS who use it. It's really good, I think it deserves an add to the list

http://www.overclock.net/t/1299014/steelseries-sensei-raw#post_18025761 (I respect this guy's word on mice and sensors in general more than anyone else on this and that forum)

Also it's a laser mouse it HAS mouse accel no matter what.

So should I upgrade to a something else IMMEDIATELY? I'm pretty used to the (I'm going to guess) minimal mouse accel on my mouse, would it be worth it to just drop everything and buy a new one NOW? I'm holding out on birthday money in June. Kinda wanted to wait till then if at all possible

[quote=Comanglia][quote=omnific][quote=kounterparts][quote=Mighty]-snip-[/quote]

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I have a steelseries sensei raw, it has no mouse accel (I'm pretty sure) and I have a lot of friends who moved to CS who use it. It's really good, I think it deserves an add to the list[/quote]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1299014/steelseries-sensei-raw#post_18025761 (I respect this guy's word on mice and sensors in general more than anyone else on this and that forum)

Also it's a laser mouse it HAS mouse accel no matter what.[/quote]

So should I upgrade to a something else IMMEDIATELY? I'm pretty used to the (I'm going to guess) minimal mouse accel on my mouse, would it be worth it to just drop everything and buy a new one NOW? I'm holding out on birthday money in June. Kinda wanted to wait till then if at all possible
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quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?

quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?
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nimby5539quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?

Lower sensitivity.

[quote=nimby5539]quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?[/quote]

Lower sensitivity.
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nimby5539quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?

It's down to personal preference though, IMO harder mouse pads makes the mouse glide over the pad easier, so combine d with high sens it may make it hard to control your movements.

R4ndomnimby5539quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?
Lower sensitivity.

400 dpi and 2 in-game is the only viable sensitivity amirite XDDDD

[quote=nimby5539]quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?[/quote]

It's down to personal preference though, IMO harder mouse pads makes the mouse glide over the pad easier, so combine d with high sens it may make it hard to control your movements.

[quote=R4ndom][quote=nimby5539]quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?[/quote]

Lower sensitivity.[/quote]

400 dpi and 2 in-game is the only viable sensitivity amirite XDDDD
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M4TTnimby5539quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?
It's down to personal preference though, IMO harder mouse pads makes the mouse glide over the pad easier, so combine d with high sens it may make it hard to control your movements.
R4ndomnimby5539quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?
Lower sensitivity.

400 dpi and 2 in-game is the only viable sensitivity amirite XDDDD

400dpi 1.5in-game please, anything higher than that is unplayable ●‿●

[quote=M4TT][quote=nimby5539]quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?[/quote]

It's down to personal preference though, IMO harder mouse pads makes the mouse glide over the pad easier, so combine d with high sens it may make it hard to control your movements.

[quote=R4ndom][quote=nimby5539]quick question, whats better for a high sensitivity, hard or soft mousepad?[/quote]

Lower sensitivity.[/quote]

400 dpi and 2 in-game is the only viable sensitivity amirite XDDDD[/quote]

400dpi 1.5in-game please, anything higher than that is unplayable ●‿●
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