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Alright well to keep it brief, I just got promoted at my job and my birthday is July 21st. So as a love gift to myself I want to build a new computer. Now i've done it a few times but i'm still no expert and not up to date with good builds. If any of you guys who know their stuff could help me come up with a build i'd greatly appreciate it.

I don't need a monitor/mouse/keyboard/speakers. I just need a beefy tower.

1) I want a good intel processor like an i7.
2) 8gb ddr3 ram should be plenty.
3) My current hdd is crap I don't even think it's 7200rpm. I would like one around 500gb minimum that is fast. 10k rpm if it's worth it? I never come close to filling 500gb.
4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.
5) I'd like a mobo that can support SLI if I ever decide to go that route.
6) One MAJOR problem i'm encountering is heat coming from my PC. My room is always hot. So a good case and cooling system is a must but I must admit i'm clueless as to how or what.

7) Items I can re-use: 650w PSU, CD/DVDR. If you think the PSU contributes to my tower giving off so much heat I can change it as well. Or if I need more than 700w for a powerful system.

If you could list the items with the new egg links that'd help a lot. I'm going to try to keep it within $1,000-$1,200. Hopefully it's possible. All I really do is game and web browse. Right now my build is bottle necking the hell out of my gpu I think.

Current built: AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 3.0GHz, 6GB DDR2 Ram, Radeon 5770 1GB, Cheap mobo, case and cheap hdd. Was a budget build at the time.

If you can help, thank you!! I'm just not entirely sure as to what is compatible to what etc. I just want the most gaming power with a logical build for the best price. =)

Alright well to keep it brief, I just got promoted at my job and my birthday is July 21st. So as a love gift to myself I want to build a new computer. Now i've done it a few times but i'm still no expert and not up to date with good builds. If any of you guys who know their stuff could help me come up with a build i'd greatly appreciate it.

I don't need a monitor/mouse/keyboard/speakers. I just need a beefy tower.

1) I want a good intel processor like an i7.
2) 8gb ddr3 ram should be plenty.
3) My current hdd is crap I don't even think it's 7200rpm. I would like one around 500gb minimum that is fast. 10k rpm if it's worth it? I never come close to filling 500gb.
4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.
5) I'd like a mobo that can support SLI if I ever decide to go that route.
6) One MAJOR problem i'm encountering is heat coming from my PC. My room is always hot. So a good case and cooling system is a must but I must admit i'm clueless as to how or what.

7) Items I can re-use: 650w PSU, CD/DVDR. If you think the PSU contributes to my tower giving off so much heat I can change it as well. Or if I need more than 700w for a powerful system.

If you could list the items with the new egg links that'd help a lot. I'm going to try to keep it within $1,000-$1,200. Hopefully it's possible. All I really do is game and web browse. Right now my build is bottle necking the hell out of my gpu I think.

Current built: AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 3.0GHz, 6GB DDR2 Ram, Radeon 5770 1GB, Cheap mobo, case and cheap hdd. Was a budget build at the time.

If you can help, thank you!! I'm just not entirely sure as to what is compatible to what etc. I just want the most gaming power with a logical build for the best price. =)
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If you don't know about this place already, PCPartpicker is a nice place to find parts at their cheapest. It also will make sure that parts are compatible

If you don't know about this place already, [url=pcpartpicker.com/]PCPartpicker[/url] is a nice place to find parts at their cheapest. It also will make sure that parts are compatible
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You looking to overclock? Need an OS? SSD?

You looking to overclock? Need an OS? SSD?
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pcpp is a turd right now

pcpp is a turd right now
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TwitchTVJohnhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/essindees/saved/1Ycf

For some reason prices are bjorked on PCPP, but this is roughly $1100.

This is a good build, but why are you getting the hyper 212 plus instead of the hyper 212 evo? it's just a few bucks more and the difference is pretty big. Also, BlinK clearly stated that he needed an i7 processor. Why give him 2 SSD's and a 1TB storage when he says he doesn't even come close to filling 500gb?

Here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hbHC

It's $65 more expensive than John's but marginally more powerful.

[quote=TwitchTVJohn]http://pcpartpicker.com/user/essindees/saved/1Ycf

For some reason prices are bjorked on PCPP, but this is roughly $1100.[/quote]
This is a good build, but why are you getting the hyper 212 plus instead of the hyper 212 evo? it's just a few bucks more and the difference is pretty big. Also, BlinK clearly stated that he needed an i7 processor. Why give him 2 SSD's and a 1TB storage when he says he doesn't even come close to filling 500gb?

Here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hbHC

It's $65 more expensive than John's but marginally more powerful.
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why 2 ssd's john? why not just 1 bigger one or 1 alone? Uh yeah john's got the right idea just idk about those ssd's.

emma i don't think he needs an i7. as cool as they are 2500k or 3570k can stream tf2 @ 200+fps at 720p.

why 2 ssd's john? why not just 1 bigger one or 1 alone? Uh yeah john's got the right idea just idk about those ssd's.

emma i don't think he needs an i7. as cool as they are 2500k or 3570k can stream tf2 @ 200+fps at 720p.
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PCPP is bjorked right now. Those are not the parts I selected. :P

PCPP is bjorked right now. Those are not the parts I selected. :P
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Oblivionageemma i don't think he needs an i7. as cool as they are 2500k or 3570k can stream tf2 @ 200+fps at 720p.blinK1) I want a good intel processor like an i7

Just getting what he wants. Also, those two processors will NOT even be close to stream tf2 at 200+fps at 720p. Those claims are preposterous.

[quote=Oblivionage]
emma i don't think he needs an i7. as cool as they are 2500k or 3570k can stream tf2 @ 200+fps at 720p.[/quote]

[quote=blinK]1) I want a good intel processor like an i7[/quote]

Just getting what he wants. Also, those two processors will NOT even be close to stream tf2 at 200+fps at 720p. Those claims are preposterous.
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EmmaWatsonTwitchTVJohnhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/essindees/saved/1Ycf

For some reason prices are bjorked on PCPP, but this is roughly $1100.
This is a good build, but why are you getting the hyper 212 plus instead of the hyper 212 evo? it's just a few bucks more and the difference is pretty big. Also, BlinK clearly stated that he needed an i7 processor. Why give him 2 SSD's and a 1TB storage when he says he doesn't even come close to filling 500gb?

Here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hbHC

It's $65 more expensive than John's but marginally more powerful.

You're looking at 1-3 c max on the 212 plus vs evo under full load. The same idle temps. The fans that come with the evo are a bit noisier as well. The 212+ is a better buy.

[quote=EmmaWatson][quote=TwitchTVJohn]http://pcpartpicker.com/user/essindees/saved/1Ycf

For some reason prices are bjorked on PCPP, but this is roughly $1100.[/quote]
This is a good build, but why are you getting the hyper 212 plus instead of the hyper 212 evo? it's just a few bucks more and the difference is pretty big. Also, BlinK clearly stated that he needed an i7 processor. Why give him 2 SSD's and a 1TB storage when he says he doesn't even come close to filling 500gb?

Here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hbHC

It's $65 more expensive than John's but marginally more powerful.[/quote]

You're looking at 1-3 c max on the 212 plus vs evo under full load. The same idle temps. The fans that come with the evo are a bit noisier as well. The 212+ is a better buy.
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TwitchTVJohnEmmaWatsonTwitchTVJohnhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/essindees/saved/1Ycf

For some reason prices are bjorked on PCPP, but this is roughly $1100.
This is a good build, but why are you getting the hyper 212 plus instead of the hyper 212 evo? it's just a few bucks more and the difference is pretty big. Also, BlinK clearly stated that he needed an i7 processor. Why give him 2 SSD's and a 1TB storage when he says he doesn't even come close to filling 500gb?

Here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hbHC

It's $65 more expensive than John's but marginally more powerful.

You're looking at 1-3 c max on the 212 plus vs evo under full load. The same idle temps. The fans that come with the evo are a bit noisier as well. The 212+ is a better buy.

I disagree, especially when blinK says that his room is extremely hot, that 3c is worth the extra $10

[quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=EmmaWatson][quote=TwitchTVJohn]http://pcpartpicker.com/user/essindees/saved/1Ycf

For some reason prices are bjorked on PCPP, but this is roughly $1100.[/quote]
This is a good build, but why are you getting the hyper 212 plus instead of the hyper 212 evo? it's just a few bucks more and the difference is pretty big. Also, BlinK clearly stated that he needed an i7 processor. Why give him 2 SSD's and a 1TB storage when he says he doesn't even come close to filling 500gb?

Here is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hbHC

It's $65 more expensive than John's but marginally more powerful.[/quote]

You're looking at 1-3 c max on the 212 plus vs evo under full load. The same idle temps. The fans that come with the evo are a bit noisier as well. The 212+ is a better buy.[/quote]
I disagree, especially when blinK says that his room is extremely hot, that 3c is worth the extra $10
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3 C is easily doable with proper thermal compound. It's a complete waste of 10 dollars. Drop the evo, drop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.

3 C is easily doable with proper thermal compound. It's a complete waste of 10 dollars. Drop the evo, drop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.
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TwitchTVJohndrop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.blinK4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.
[quote=TwitchTVJohn]drop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.[/quote]

[quote=blinK]4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu. [/quote]
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EmmaWatsonTwitchTVJohndrop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.blinK4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.

Yes, but this is coming from somebody who clearly doesn't know what he is doing. He's asking for help on a forum. When this happens, you explain to them why some of their assumptions are incorrect. This allows them to make more intelligent decisions when spending a large chunk of their hard earned money. People that say "I can spend $1200" don't need to spend $1200. If they are asking for help, you give them valid, educated opinions and explain to them why these parts are a better value.

Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 ghz out performs the 670 significantly.

You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. An i5 3570k will save you $100 to put elsewhere on the PC, or into your pocket. (I recommend #2)

An SSD is the last option for a PC. You do not build a PC around getting an SSD nor do you compromise any other components for them. They are a luxury, but they are the last luxury you should consider when building a high end gaming rig.

If your room is slightly warm, you may want to look into some solid aftermarket fans.

[quote=EmmaWatson][quote=TwitchTVJohn]drop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.[/quote]

[quote=blinK]4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu. [/quote][/quote]


Yes, but this is coming from somebody who clearly doesn't know what he is doing. He's asking for help on a forum. When this happens, you explain to them why some of their assumptions are incorrect. This allows them to make more intelligent decisions when spending a large chunk of their hard earned money. People that say "I can spend $1200" don't need to spend $1200. If they are asking for help, you give them valid, educated opinions and explain to them why these parts are a better value.

Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 ghz out performs the 670 significantly.

You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. An i5 3570k will save you $100 to put elsewhere on the PC, or into your pocket. (I recommend #2)

An SSD is the last option for a PC. You do not build a PC around getting an SSD nor do you compromise any other components for them. They are a luxury, but they are the last luxury you should consider when building a high end gaming rig.

If your room is slightly warm, you may want to look into some solid aftermarket fans.
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Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.

[quote]Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. [/quote]

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.
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TwitchTVJohnEmmaWatsonTwitchTVJohndrop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.blinK4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.
Yes, but this is coming from somebody who clearly doesn't know what he is doing. He's asking for help on a forum. When this happens, you explain to them why some of their assumptions are incorrect. This allows them to make more intelligent decisions when spending a large chunk of their hard earned money. People that say "I can spend $1200" don't need to spend $1200. If they are asking for help, you give them valid, educated opinions and explain to them why these parts are a better value.

Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.

I suggested a 770, not a 670
Your 7970 suggestion regards to YOUR build, not mine. Hell, he could be using the Nvidia card for physx or CUDA, so we should stop making assumptions and give him what he wants.
Also, ATI has horrible drivers and very poor SLI scaling. Clearly, blinK is interested in SLI-ing in the future, so therefore a 770 is clearly a better choice. Also, you putting in two SSD's with a 1TB harddrive makes no sense. My 500Gb + 1 SSD makes the best solution, especially when he doesn't use even 500gb of data.

[quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=EmmaWatson][quote=TwitchTVJohn]drop the 670 and get a 7970ghz addition instead.[/quote]

[quote=blinK]4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu. [/quote][/quote]


Yes, but this is coming from somebody who clearly doesn't know what he is doing. He's asking for help on a forum. When this happens, you explain to them why some of their assumptions are incorrect. This allows them to make more intelligent decisions when spending a large chunk of their hard earned money. People that say "I can spend $1200" don't need to spend $1200. If they are asking for help, you give them valid, educated opinions and explain to them why these parts are a better value.

Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.[/quote]
I suggested a 770, not a 670
Your 7970 suggestion regards to YOUR build, not mine. Hell, he could be using the Nvidia card for physx or CUDA, so we should stop making assumptions and give him what he wants.
Also, ATI has horrible drivers and very poor SLI scaling. Clearly, blinK is interested in SLI-ing in the future, so therefore a 770 is clearly a better choice. Also, you putting in two SSD's with a 1TB harddrive makes no sense. My 500Gb + 1 SSD makes the best solution, especially when he doesn't use even 500gb of data.
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Edit: Hope no one minds that I interjected.

If you want to stream, consider the AMD FX-8350. It's quite a bit better at streaming, but worse at applications that won't use all 8 threads (i.e. most games). It does use a fair amount of power, though (nearly 50 W more than the 3770k).

An i5/i7 gives you better performance in games but less for streaming. They tend to use less power than AMD processors.

I'm running a 3570k in my computer right now. I've never experimented with an 8350 so I don't know personally how good it is, but I do know some people in the community (rays for example) have it.

Edit: Hope no one minds that I interjected.

If you want to stream, consider the AMD FX-8350. It's quite a bit better at streaming, but worse at applications that won't use all 8 threads (i.e. most games). It does use a fair amount of power, though (nearly 50 W more than the 3770k).

An i5/i7 gives you better performance in games but less for streaming. They tend to use less power than AMD processors.

I'm running a 3570k in my computer right now. I've never experimented with an 8350 so I don't know personally how good it is, but I do know some people in the community (rays for example) have it.
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ProwerNvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they think they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary. If he still decides to go with what he wants, that's fine. He needs to have the correct information before making that decision, though.

[quote=Prower][quote]Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. [/quote]

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.[/quote]

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they think they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary. If he still decides to go with what he wants, that's fine. He needs to have the correct information before making that decision, though.
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TwitchTVJohnProwerNvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary.

unnecessary is 2 ssd's with a 1tb harddrive.

[quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=Prower][quote]Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. [/quote]

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.[/quote]

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary.[/quote]
unnecessary is 2 ssd's with a 1tb harddrive.
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EmmaWatsonTwitchTVJohnProwerNvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary.
unnecessary is 2 ssd's with a 1tb harddrive.

You are a keyboard warrior. I clearly stated that the PCPP link I posted was bjorked.

[quote=EmmaWatson][quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=Prower][quote]Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. [/quote]

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.[/quote]

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary.[/quote]
unnecessary is 2 ssd's with a 1tb harddrive.[/quote]

You are a keyboard warrior. I clearly stated that the PCPP link I posted was bjorked.
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TwitchTVJohnEmmaWatsonTwitchTVJohnProwerNvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing.

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary.
unnecessary is 2 ssd's with a 1tb harddrive.

You are a keyboard warrior. I clearly stated that the PCPP link I posted was bjorked.

Oops, my bad, didn't see your edit.
Still though,

blinK I just need a beefy tower.
[quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=EmmaWatson][quote=TwitchTVJohn][quote=Prower][quote]Nvidia being better than AMD is a myth. The 7970 out performs the 670.
You do not need an i7 CPU for streaming/gaming/browsing. [/quote]

Just gonna point out that Emma's build uses a GTX 770, which outperforms the 7970 slightly.[/quote]

This is a good catch. Regardless, it's not about giving somebody what they want when they are asking on a forum for advice about a build. Help him make an educated decision on what to purchase rather than blindly letting him spend his money on things that are unnecessary.[/quote]
unnecessary is 2 ssd's with a 1tb harddrive.[/quote]

You are a keyboard warrior. I clearly stated that the PCPP link I posted was bjorked.[/quote]
Oops, my bad, didn't see your edit.
Still though,
[quote=blinK] I just need a beefy tower.[/quote]
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blinK7) Items I can re-use: 650w PSU, CD/DVDR. If you think the PSU contributes to my tower giving off so much heat I can change it as well. Or if I need more than 700w for a powerful system.

Depending on how often you clean out your case (if at all), that could very well be filled with dust/hair and heating up. You should be fine power-wise with it though. I would also ask how old is the PSU? Or could you just confirm that it has 2 6-pin power cables on it. I know your current GPU came out a little over 3 years ago, just want to make sure it has the necessary power cables. Another thing to do with your case, to help with the cooling, is to make sure that the fans have the correct In-take/Out-take figure. I'm not too familiar with the case, but it's basically the same for them all.

I think getting an i5 would be the better choice (and cheaper), since the majority of streamers out there DO in fact use i5's and have no problem with them.

blinKAll I really do is game and web browse.

Why does he need an i7 + a 770 to stream and watch videos on YouTube again?

[quote=blinK]
7) Items I can re-use: 650w PSU, CD/DVDR. If you think the PSU contributes to my tower giving off so much heat I can change it as well. Or if I need more than 700w for a powerful system.
[/quote]

Depending on how often you clean out your case (if at all), that could very well be filled with dust/hair and heating up. You should be fine power-wise with it though. I would also ask how old is the PSU? Or could you just confirm that it has 2 6-pin power cables on it. I know your current GPU came out a little over 3 years ago, just want to make sure it has the necessary power cables. Another thing to do with your case, to help with the cooling, is to make sure that the fans have the correct In-take/Out-take figure. I'm not too familiar with the case, but it's basically the same for them all.

I think getting an i5 would be the better choice (and cheaper), since the majority of streamers out there DO in fact use i5's and have no problem with them.

[quote=blinK]
All I really do is game and web browse.[/quote]

Why does he need an i7 + a 770 to stream and watch videos on YouTube again?
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770 is for gaming, and an i5-2500k will not get you 720p60 streaming. Also if you get a recent i7 you might be able to take advantage of quick sync.

770 is for gaming, and an i5-2500k will not get you 720p60 streaming. Also if you get a recent i7 you might be able to take advantage of quick sync.
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You don't need 60 fps on a stream, 45 or 50 is fine.

Also I thought Slin had an i5. I know he streamed at 720p60 forever.

You don't need 60 fps on a stream, 45 or 50 is fine.

Also I thought Slin had an i5. I know he streamed at 720p60 forever.
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hookyYou don't need 60 fps on a stream, 45 or 50 is fine.

Also I thought Slin had an i5. I know he streamed at 720p60 forever.

You don't need it, but once you experience it, you never want to go back.

My i5-2500k GTX 570 rig could stream 720p60 with my framerate dipping below 60 FPS a little bit. In a non-FPS game, I could see myself getting used to that, but with TF2, I can't have my framerate that low.

[quote=hooky]You don't need 60 fps on a stream, 45 or 50 is fine.

Also I thought Slin had an i5. I know he streamed at 720p60 forever.[/quote]

You don't need it, but once you experience it, you never want to go back.

My i5-2500k GTX 570 rig could stream 720p60 with my framerate dipping below 60 FPS a little bit. In a non-FPS game, I could see myself getting used to that, but with TF2, I can't have my framerate that low.
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blinK6) One MAJOR problem i'm encountering is heat coming from my PC. My room is always hot. So a good case and cooling system is a must but I must admit i'm clueless as to how or what.

Uh, this won't work. Cooling systems just move heat from your case/parts to the room more effectively, so your room will likely become hotter with this new build. You should think about investing in a cooling system for the room (eg a big-ass fan to point at a doorway).

[quote=blinK]
6) One MAJOR problem i'm encountering is heat coming from my PC. My room is always hot. So a good case and cooling system is a must but I must admit i'm clueless as to how or what.
[/quote]


Uh, this won't work. Cooling systems just move heat from your case/parts to the room more effectively, so your room will likely become hotter with this new build. You should think about investing in a cooling system for the room (eg a big-ass fan to point at a doorway).
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1) I want a good intel processor like an i7.
i7 is just branding, doesn't say a lot about the CPU itself.
For gaming a i5-4670K is fine and 100$ cheaper. You'll get the same fps (+-1%) as with a i7-4770K.

2) 8gb ddr3 ram should be plenty.
Yes.

3) My current hdd is crap I don't even think it's 7200rpm. I would like one around 500gb minimum that is fast. 10k rpm if it's worth it? I never come close to filling 500gb.
A SSD and a 7200rpm HDD should be fine. 10k isn't that much of a difference but much more expensive. 120 GB SSD for OS and maybe a few games would have long load times (or games that you want to start within seconds) and a 1 TB HDD for everything else.

4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.
Top of the line = Titan ~1000$, GTX 780 ~700$
I can see neither the budget nor the need for that.
A GTX 770 or a Radeon 7970 GHz is more likely to suit your needs.
Nvidia or AMD doesn't matter, it's all about performance but i'd give that one to the 770 anyway.

5) I'd like a mobo that can support SLI if I ever decide to go that route.
That can be arranged.

6) One MAJOR problem i'm encountering is heat coming from my PC. My room is always hot.
So a good case and cooling system is a must but I must admit i'm clueless as to how or what.
Cooling doesn't make the heat disappear, it just moves the heat from CPU/GPU into your room. If your room is that small and hot then it's going to stay that way or even get worse.

7) Items I can re-use: 650w PSU, CD/DVDR. If you think the PSU contributes to my tower giving off so much heat I can change it as well. Or if I need more than 700w for a powerful system.

I'd buy both new so you can sell or keep using your old pc. A new PSU can't hurt and the CD/DVD writer won't break the budget.

Two suggestions, both need a bit of tweaking, case, colorscheme and other stuff can be changed.
Overclocking: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hebH
No OC: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hefx

1) I want a good intel processor like an i7.
i7 is just branding, doesn't say a lot about the CPU itself.
For gaming a i5-4670K is fine and 100$ cheaper. You'll get the same fps (+-1%) as with a i7-4770K.

2) 8gb ddr3 ram should be plenty.
Yes.

3) My current hdd is crap I don't even think it's 7200rpm. I would like one around 500gb minimum that is fast. 10k rpm if it's worth it? I never come close to filling 500gb.
A SSD and a 7200rpm HDD should be fine. 10k isn't that much of a difference but much more expensive. 120 GB SSD for OS and maybe a few games would have long load times (or games that you want to start within seconds) and a 1 TB HDD for everything else.

4) Definitely want to go for a top of the line NVidia gpu.
Top of the line = Titan ~1000$, GTX 780 ~700$
I can see neither the budget nor the need for that.
A GTX 770 or a Radeon 7970 GHz is more likely to suit your needs.
Nvidia or AMD doesn't matter, it's all about performance but i'd give that one to the 770 anyway.

5) I'd like a mobo that can support SLI if I ever decide to go that route.
That can be arranged.

6) One MAJOR problem i'm encountering is heat coming from my PC. My room is always hot.
So a good case and cooling system is a must but I must admit i'm clueless as to how or what.
Cooling doesn't make the heat disappear, it just moves the heat from CPU/GPU into your room. If your room is that small and hot then it's going to stay that way or even get worse.

7) Items I can re-use: 650w PSU, CD/DVDR. If you think the PSU contributes to my tower giving off so much heat I can change it as well. Or if I need more than 700w for a powerful system.

I'd buy both new so you can sell or keep using your old pc. A new PSU can't hurt and the CD/DVD writer won't break the budget.


Two suggestions, both need a bit of tweaking, case, colorscheme and other stuff can be changed.
Overclocking: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hebH
No OC: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1hefx
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Just want to point out, @emma: amd cards scale a LOT better than nvidia gpus when it comes to sli/cf so idk where you got that from.

770 is mad expensive i don't think he needs it he should just opt in for the 7870 ghz or 7950 both will be amazing in CF if he ever needs it.

Also, i'm pretty sure b4nny streams at like 1k fps and he has a 2500k & 560 (at like 534p or something though) so i still think the i7 isn't necessary w/e just do what you want.

Just want to point out, @emma: amd cards scale a LOT better than nvidia gpus when it comes to sli/cf so idk where you got that from.

770 is mad expensive i don't think he needs it he should just opt in for the 7870 ghz or 7950 both will be amazing in CF if he ever needs it.

Also, i'm pretty sure b4nny streams at like 1k fps and he has a 2500k & 560 (at like 534p or something though) so i still think the i7 isn't necessary w/e just do what you want.
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Just going to point out that if one of the problems is his room getting hot, the thing to do is get a processor that runs cooler, not more/better fans. No matter how many/how good the fans are, it's thermodynamically impossible to reduce heat by moving it around. All more fans would do is keep the CPU cooler by transferring heat away from the computer, and increasing ambient temp, which would just mean that while running at full load it would get hotter in the room faster. Just pointing this out.

Just going to point out that if one of the problems is his room getting hot, the thing to do is get a processor that runs cooler, not more/better fans. No matter how many/how good the fans are, it's thermodynamically impossible to reduce heat by moving it around. All more fans would do is keep the CPU cooler by transferring heat away from the computer, and [i]increasing[/i] ambient temp, which would just mean that while running at full load it would get hotter in the room faster. Just pointing this out.
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OblivionageJust want to point out, @emma: amd cards scale a LOT better than nvidia gpus when it comes to sli/cf so idk where you got that from.

770 is mad expensive i don't think he needs it he should just opt in for the 7870 ghz or 7950 both will be amazing in CF if he ever needs it.

Also, i'm pretty sure b4nny streams at like 1k fps and he has a 2500k & 560 (at like 534p or something though) so i still think the i7 isn't necessary w/e just do what you want.

First of all it's wrong, it depends a lot on the game an both scale pretty decent recently.

The 770 beats a 7970 GHz and is hands down the best card for SLI right now. If you compare the price of a 770 and a 7870 GHz then we also have to compare a 7970 GHz and a 7870 GHz. Guess what, the 7870 GHz is cheaper. Now if we compare the 7870 with a 7750 we'll see that the 7750 is cheaper. Does that mean the 7750 is the best card? No, it's the cheapest with the least performance.

Last but not least: an i7 is indeed unnecessary, but OP doesn't even want to stream. And i doubt that b4nny is streaming at "like 1k fps".

WaldoJust going to point out that if one of the problems is his room getting hot, the thing to do is get a processor that runs cooler, not more/better fans. No matter how many/how good the fans are, it's thermodynamically impossible to reduce heat by moving it around. All more fans would do is keep the CPU cooler by transferring heat away from the computer, and increasing ambient temp, which would just mean that while running at full load it would get hotter in the room faster. Just pointing this out.

It's more about the GPU. The GTX 770 generates 200-250W heat under load, the 4670K won't go over 130W when overclocked (<90W on stock clock).

[quote=Oblivionage]Just want to point out, @emma: amd cards scale a LOT better than nvidia gpus when it comes to sli/cf so idk where you got that from.

770 is mad expensive i don't think he needs it he should just opt in for the 7870 ghz or 7950 both will be amazing in CF if he ever needs it.

Also, i'm pretty sure b4nny streams at like 1k fps and he has a 2500k & 560 (at like 534p or something though) so i still think the i7 isn't necessary w/e just do what you want.[/quote]First of all it's wrong, it depends a lot on the game an both scale pretty decent recently.

The 770 beats a 7970 GHz and is hands down the best card for SLI right now. If you compare the price of a 770 and a 7870 GHz then we also have to compare a 7970 GHz and a 7870 GHz. Guess what, the 7870 GHz is cheaper. Now if we compare the 7870 with a 7750 we'll see that the 7750 is cheaper. Does that mean the 7750 is the best card? No, it's the cheapest with the least performance.

Last but not least: an i7 is indeed unnecessary, but OP doesn't even want to stream. And i doubt that b4nny is streaming at "like 1k fps".

[quote=Waldo]Just going to point out that if one of the problems is his room getting hot, the thing to do is get a processor that runs cooler, not more/better fans. No matter how many/how good the fans are, it's thermodynamically impossible to reduce heat by moving it around. All more fans would do is keep the CPU cooler by transferring heat away from the computer, and [i]increasing[/i] ambient temp, which would just mean that while running at full load it would get hotter in the room faster. Just pointing this out.[/quote]
It's more about the GPU. The GTX 770 generates 200-250W heat under load, the 4670K won't go over 130W when overclocked (<90W on stock clock).
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SetsulIt's more about the GPU. The GTX 770 generates 200-250W heat under load, the 4670K won't go over 130W when overclocked (<90W on stock clock).

Definitely true on this, but the idea is the same, lower power components will keep the system cooler then more cooling equipment ever will.

[quote=Setsul]
It's more about the GPU. The GTX 770 generates 200-250W heat under load, the 4670K won't go over 130W when overclocked (<90W on stock clock).[/quote]
Definitely true on this, but the idea is the same, lower power components will keep the system cooler then more cooling equipment ever will.
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