Confirm it's wifi and not your internet connection first.
http://speedof.me/
Both with wifi and ethernet.

#2063
The G4560 got Hyperthreading which makes significant difference in both TF2 and CS:GO.
The 212 Evo does fuck all.
The thermal paste is just a waste of money.
18$ for a fan.

It's not terrible, but perfect? Definitely not.

Also why would you need a different mobo for an i5 or i7?

#2058
What additional USB ports? 2x USB 3.0 + 2x USB 2.0 on the front panel is about as standard as it gets.

#2059/2061
Any parts you'll be reusing?
Current specs?

To be fair back then ETF2L still had standards.

#2054
"Low blue light" is a marketing gimmick, you can just turn down blue in the colour settings or use f.lux, which doesn't fuck up the colour balance as bad.
There is nothing wrong with 75 Hz. But 30/60 fps videos will look like they're stuttering (the same happens with 24 fps videos on a Hz monitor though).

Out of these I'd get the Dell P2417H.

#2055
I guess we can leave it like this then. Which cheaper version of the case though?
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/5gf0fk/amd_vs_nvidia_drivers_on_linux/
RX 480 ~ GTX 1060 6GB (3GB version is a different GPU)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/gL98TW/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-g1-gaming-video-card-gv-n1060g1-gaming-6gd

#25
It's well hidden, SKL gets a higher IPC gain in SMT, which is exactly the situation AMD used to compare BDW and Zen.
That and the still unanswered question: How effective is AMD's SMT? It might very well be more effective, since Zen is wider than even SKL, so single threaded IPC could end up below HSW.

Yes, I have realised, sometimes I just like to remind everyone of that.

#26
Yeah no.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/12/09/intel_kaby_lake_core_i77700k_ipc_review/1

So they are going to put R&D money into that and then not use it and hope it doesn't become outdated? Also they are going to just yell "technology" and suddenly the 2-4 years it takes to implement vanish and they can release new CPUs?

Thanks to the new nodes being delayed Intel's roadmap is stretched out even further. So the next opportunity would be Icelake (Cannonlake is rather irrelevant, mobile only), which is still 1.5 years away, but has been in the works since 2013/2014. So either Intel planned to use all those "new technologies" for years or you won't see them until at least 2021.

We'll get on that.

I'd get a BenQ Zowie XL2411 instead. It's identical to the BenQ XL2411Z but not listed in pcpartpicker. That is, if you want Lightboost. If you want FreeSync there's the AOC G2460PF.
The 1070 is indeed excessive and with the mobo, cooler and PSU you'd be over budget. The 7700K is overkill too though. The 7350K is an option, but not that much cheaper. You also don't have to overclock if you don't really need that much performance.

You won't need either. If you have good headphones you might want to get a soundcard, if they are very hard to drive or just very good maybe an external DAC/amp, but that's a whole new can of worms. Unless you want wifi (mobos with wifi are rare) a network adapter is a waste of money.

MicroATX cases are smaller and therefore cheaper. They are also smaller. Unless you want more than 2 GPUs or other things there is no need for full ATX.

Rough idea for now, until you've decided on overclocking, the case and the monitor.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($348.00 @ Shopping Express)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($89.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Motherboard: ASRock Z270M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($189.00 @ IJK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($155.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($124.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($379.00 @ Shopping Express)
Case: NZXT S340 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($149.00 @ PLE Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($110.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: BenQ XL2411Z 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($399.00)
Total: $1942.00
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#1
You should buy neither of those.
The FX-8350 is four and a half years old by now. There has never been a reason to buy a four and a half years old CPU new. Used for at most 1/4 of the launch price maybe, but not new for 3/4 of it.
The fact that AMD will release a far superior replacement soon doesn't even factor into that.

Now the i5-6600K is only one and a half year old but it's direct successor and replacement, the i5-7600K has been released this month. Except for the iGPU it's virtually identical except about 8% faster. With the MSRP being only 1$ higher (so virtually identical again) the i5-6600K has also become obsolete (unless you can get it at a significant discount).

If you want to overclock and only/mostly care about TF2 you could actually get an i3-7350K and still get the same performance.
So the questions are
-are you going to overclock?
-budget?

#2
Technically correct, but "the intel" isn't the right choice, rather a different Intel CPU, depening on his specific situation. The 6600K would indeed be better if those two were the only options though.

#3
See #2.

#4
Not necessarily.
If the performance is very similar it won't be much cheaper.
RyZen availability might be spotty for a while (-> higher prices) if the OEMs hog most of the supply.
Also AMD will release CPUs based on an 8C die first, which they'd much rather sell as 6C or full 8C. They are only offering 4C CPUs based on that because at first yields might not be too great and to get some marketshare in preparation for native 4C CPUs/APUs in Q3/4 this year. So they might not be too keen on selling these for <200$, considering Intel wants 400/600$ for a 6C and 1000$ for an 8C. In fact if they don't offer any SKUs without SMTs even the 4C parts would compete i7s, so pricing them below i7s would be enough to gain marketshare, pricing them below i5s would be unreasonable.

#6
Correct, except for 3.
Availability see #4.
Early previews show it on par with Broadwell in best case scenarios, which are not Intel's latest offerings except for the HEDT, which isn't exactly relevant for TF2. The 8C die is not supposed to scale to crazy frequencies and it probably won't. It'll not win in IPC either. So for <=4C Skylake and especially Kaby Lake are expected to still win single threaded easily. We don't know how well Zen will overclock, but I highly doubt we'll see the ~5.5GHz needed to beat an overclocked Kaby Lake CPU. >4C and/or price to performance will be very interesting but that's not the point.

#7
One could argue semantics, whether Piledriver is a new architecture or not, but yes, it's ancient.
Availability see #4.

#8
Let's slow the hype train down a tiny bit.
AMD has shown Zen to get around Broadwell IPC. You can take a bet they took the best case, not an average or even worst case. As far was we know clockrates are also around Haswell/Broadwell whereas they'd need to be higher than Skylake's to actually beat it. I'm not saying it's impossible with the higher power budget per core for 4C vs 8C Zen, but I wouldn't count on it and as you've said there's still Kaby Lake. Also see #4, there might not be anything cheaper than a Kaby Lake i5 for a while from AMD.

#10
There are so many things wrong with all these arguments, I won't even go into it.
You bought a CPU which is essentially an overclocked FX-8350 with too high voltage. They are expected to draw a lot of power, run hot and die within a few years, just like every other CPU running a balls to the wall overclock.

#11
I don't know why anyone -fragged this, with some exceptions like Overwatch, ARMA 3 or Ashes of the Singularity to name a few that is correct.

#14
And why would Intel drop prices that much?
AMD isn't going to get you the same performance for half the price either. You'd still buy it a 3/4, maybe even more, so why sell it cheaper than that?

#19

Ah yes, finally someone gets it. Obviously Intel got a whole different architecture that cost them only a few billion dollars lying around, that is way faster in every regard, more efficient and also cheaper to manufacture. Because just releasing that architecture and locking the clockrates to maximize profits would be too easy. You've got to spend another couple of billions to develop another, worse architecture that you can safely release. That's how you keep shareholders happy. Because improving performance in modern microarchitectures is easy and engineers grow on trees
Now some skeptics might ask "But if Intel could develop a better architecture than Skylake so easily, why couldn't AMD do it in the 5+ years they've worked on Zen?". Well the answer is simple: AMD is obviously run by retarded monkeys who couldn't develop a good CPU if their life depended on it. Especially that Jim Keller guy.

#20
I will sit here and shake my head about people who still go by brands instead of just comparing the 3 or 4 CPUs they can actually afford or get them the performance they want and then chose the best one for them regardless of the name/brand/colour of the box/their shoe size/star sign.

The council has changed the whitelist changes for Rewind LAN within a day, I have little faith in their decisions being long lasting.

I have given up hope for ETF2L, let's hope at least Samiface and tri_ are gonna be like

https://i.imgflip.com/nkc79.jpg

Also: Was this a b4nny plot to win Rewind LAN via Quickfix meta?

That is not how it works.

That is not how it works.

That is not how it works.

#2049
I'd go with https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w6DzK8/sk-hynix-sl308-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs500g32tnd-n1a2a
or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2VWrxr/crucial-mx300-525gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct525mx300ssd1
whichever is cheaper.

#2050
Going by MSRP the i3-7350K is literally just 2$ closer to the i3-7100 (cheapest i3, clocked 0.3 GHz lower) than to the i5-7600K. For those 64$ would you rather have e.g. a good 250GB SSD or 2 more cores?
For anything multithreaded even the i5-7400 (3$ more) wins most of the time.
The hype is rather limited.

Intel is going absolutely crazy with market segmentation now. All i3s used to support ECC, now it's only special version with the exact same spec and price except with gimped graphics. Wouldn't want anyone using those for low end workstations, if you want single threaded performance and ECC and a decent iGPU you better buy a >300$ Xeon. Also those E versions only exist for the two slowest models. Otherwise they'd be almost be on par multithreaded with the cheapest Xeons and we wouldn't want anyone saving 50$. Even worse they'd beat >400$ Xeons single threaded. Can't have that, can we?

In other news the official launch date for Zen appears to be mid February, OEMs first and going by what I've heard they'll hog most of the supply for a few months.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4V Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Essentials 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($47.99 @ Directron)
Storage: SK hynix SL308 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($43.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($48.60 @ OutletPC)
Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($25.99 @ Newegg Marketplace)
Power Supply: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.80 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($88.58 @ OutletPC)
Total: $493.41
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I'd definitely change the SSD.
Then either get a 250GB SSD, maybe drop the HDD, if 250 or 500GB are enough for her then SSD only is easier.

The other option is changing the mobo and RAM. Won't do anything for performance probably, it's just a reliability/upgradeability thing.

You need to update the BIOS on Z170 mobos and that's it.
There's exactly two differences between Z170 and Z270. Z270 got:
-4 more PCIe 3.0 lanes, which you won't need because most mobos don't even have enough slots to use them and
-support for for Intel Optane Memory which you will neither need nor can you afford it.

So no difference really, but they had to add something, can't just rerelease the same chipset.