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Cheater bans should be permanent
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#61
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aiera

SMV (soy music video)

[quote=aiera][/quote]
SMV (soy music video)
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#62
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aierahttps://youtu.be/ItBDepGyfK0

u ever think

[quote=aiera][youtube]https://youtu.be/ItBDepGyfK0[/youtube][/quote]
u ever think
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#63
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thumbs down

thumbs down
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#64
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Hey bastard noob, watch ur mouth, I got banned for cheating in 2018 but I learnt my lesson and changed my way, now im a human aimbotand I dont need hacks
Every body deserve a second chance, we all make mistakes. Goody two shoes like u wont get that

Hey bastard noob, watch ur mouth, I got banned for cheating in 2018 but I learnt my lesson and changed my way, now im a human aimbotand I dont need hacks
Every body deserve a second chance, we all make mistakes. Goody two shoes like u wont get that
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#65
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fuck you stupid bitch who dowvnoted me ill kill you

fuck you stupid bitch who dowvnoted me ill kill you
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#66
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Downvoted*

Downvoted*
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#67
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^why not banned from tftv?

^why not banned from tftv?
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#68
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elijah playing advanced haha surely hes come clean guys
https://logs.tf/3430614#76561198124005288

2 year cheating ban "first offense" sir there should not be any other offenses, remove them from the game permanently (or 5 years at least)
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288&r=40

elijah playing advanced haha surely hes come clean guys
https://logs.tf/3430614#76561198124005288

2 year cheating ban "first offense" sir there should not be any other offenses, remove them from the game permanently (or 5 years at least)
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288&r=40
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#69
18 Frags +

bro he killed 27 soldiers. Not saying he's not cheating but cmon man

https://i.imgur.com/ywYsBBz.png

bro he killed 27 soldiers. Not saying he's not cheating but cmon man
[img]https://i.imgur.com/ywYsBBz.png[/img]
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#70
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I think that the cheating rules are fine as is. 2 year ban if you're caught cheating first time, perma after that. I'm not a 6s player so I don't have to play against elijah, but at least in the highlander scene i think there are actually more current invite players that were banned for cheating that are still playing and not cheating, than there are players that were banned for cheating, made it to a high level, and banned again for cheating.

For example, the best HL scout right now, blank, was banned for cheating in his second season, and after getting unbanned made it to invite in two seasons. Nyxi was banned in his first season in Platinum, and after coming back he's been a mainstay in invite. eX.Hunter was banned for cheating in Platinum, unbanned and same thing as nyxi. Hyphen same thing. Not an insignificant portion of the top highlander players.

There are just too many players that I can think of that have been banned for cheating and reformed themselves for me to be behind 1 strike and you're out forever policy. Specifically for elijah (who is what this whole thread is about) demo request him every game and if he's cheating still, he'll be gone forever and you'll get your precious match points back. You don't have to scrim him. AC admins should have reviewing his demos (and other freshly unbanned cheaters) at #1 priority, over every other demo requested.

Elijah is an edge case. There are plenty of good players that have been banned for cheating in the past, and came back as a significant contributor to the competitive scene. I'd rather one match in two years be a loss than a few kids in their teens lose their opportunity to come back as adults.

I think that the cheating rules are fine as is. 2 year ban if you're caught cheating first time, perma after that. I'm not a 6s player so I don't have to play against elijah, but at least in the highlander scene i think there are actually more current invite players that were banned for cheating that are still playing and not cheating, than there are players that were banned for cheating, made it to a high level, and banned again for cheating.

For example, the best HL scout right now, blank, was banned for cheating in his second season, and after getting unbanned made it to invite in two seasons. Nyxi was banned in his first season in Platinum, and after coming back he's been a mainstay in invite. eX.Hunter was banned for cheating in Platinum, unbanned and same thing as nyxi. Hyphen same thing. Not an insignificant portion of the top highlander players.

There are just too many players that I can think of that have been banned for cheating and reformed themselves for me to be behind 1 strike and you're out forever policy. Specifically for elijah (who is what this whole thread is about) demo request him every game and if he's cheating still, he'll be gone forever and you'll get your precious match points back. You don't have to scrim him. AC admins should have reviewing his demos (and other freshly unbanned cheaters) at #1 priority, over every other demo requested.

Elijah is an edge case. There are plenty of good players that have been banned for cheating in the past, and came back as a significant contributor to the competitive scene. I'd rather one match in two years be a loss than a few kids in their teens lose their opportunity to come back as adults.
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#71
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DivineATbro he killed 27 soldiers. Not saying he's not cheating but cmon man

https://i.ibb.co/X3GX5w5/Untitled.png

I mean, right below that we see the enemy Scout killing Soldiers twenty times. So even in that same log, it doesn't seem like an anomaly, just a match with all four Soldiers constantly bombing or feeding.

[quote=DivineAT]bro he killed 27 soldiers. Not saying he's not cheating but cmon man[/quote]
[img]https://i.ibb.co/X3GX5w5/Untitled.png[/img]
I mean, right below that we see the enemy Scout killing Soldiers twenty times. So even in that same log, it doesn't seem like an anomaly, just a match with all four Soldiers constantly bombing or feeding.
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#72
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ElenaManettaDivineATbro he killed 27 soldiers. Not saying he's not cheating but cmon manhttps://i.ibb.co/X3GX5w5/Untitled.png
I mean, right below that we see the enemy Scout killing Soldiers twenty times. So even in that same log, it doesn't seem like an anomaly, just a match with all four Soldiers constantly bombing or feeding.

https://i.imgur.com/FGA14wa.png

most chad soldier match

[quote=ElenaManetta][quote=DivineAT]bro he killed 27 soldiers. Not saying he's not cheating but cmon man[/quote]
[img]https://i.ibb.co/X3GX5w5/Untitled.png[/img]
I mean, right below that we see the enemy Scout killing Soldiers twenty times. So even in that same log, it doesn't seem like an anomaly, just a match with all four Soldiers constantly bombing or feeding.[/quote]
[img]https://i.imgur.com/FGA14wa.png[/img]
most chad soldier match
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#73
TFNew
-23 Frags +

i cheated on my wife :3

i cheated on my wife :3
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#74
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I think the cheating rules wouldn’t seem nearly as lenient if there was faith in the anticheat team in the first place. Getting a cheater banned already seems like you have to move mountains, and having it happen twice seems straight up impossible. I don’t know what the internal case file was looking like, but reminder that mxr was allowed to play a full season, only bailed out by feno torpedoing their team, and then looked all set to play the very next season before streaming himself cheating lol. From that perspective, seeing a cheater get unbanned looks more like “well guess we’ll give our anticheat team another chance to fuck up!”

edit: i think the ban might have been a few days before the streaming incident mb but point stands for the prev season

I think the cheating rules wouldn’t seem nearly as lenient if there was faith in the anticheat team in the first place. Getting a cheater banned already seems like you have to move mountains, and having it happen twice seems straight up impossible. I don’t know what the internal case file was looking like, but reminder that mxr was allowed to play a full season, only bailed out by feno torpedoing their team, and then looked all set to play the very next season before streaming himself cheating lol. From that perspective, seeing a cheater get unbanned looks more like “well guess we’ll give our anticheat team another chance to fuck up!”

edit: i think the ban might have been a few days before the streaming incident mb but point stands for the prev season
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#75
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pajaro

no comment on elijah but who gives a fuck if those ppl never get unbanned? it's not "a mistake" to purposefully cheat in a league and ruin it for every one. people aren't entitled to playing in the cartoon video game league, i couldn't care less if some invite players ruined it for themselves 5 years ago

[quote=pajaro][/quote]
no comment on elijah but who gives a fuck if those ppl never get unbanned? it's not "a mistake" to purposefully cheat in a league and ruin it for every one. people aren't entitled to playing in the cartoon video game league, i couldn't care less if some invite players ruined it for themselves 5 years ago
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#76
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seems weird how many people get banned for cheating and come back as good or better later on. guess it's good they didn't need the cheats!

seems weird how many people get banned for cheating and come back as good or better later on. guess it's good they didn't need the cheats!
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#77
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crackbabydumpsterseems weird how many people get banned for cheating and come back as good or better later on. guess it's good they didn't need the cheats!Air_all a 2 year ban from cheating does for someone that actively tried to hide cheats in league play is give them 2 years to practice getting better at hiding their cheats
[quote=crackbabydumpster]seems weird how many people get banned for cheating and come back as good or better later on. guess it's good they didn't need the cheats![/quote]
[quote=Air_]all a 2 year ban from cheating does for someone that actively tried to hide cheats in league play is give them 2 years to practice getting better at hiding their cheats[/quote]
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#78
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ban habib cheating piece of shit

ban habib cheating piece of shit
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#79
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elijah's teammates loading into the server every night ready for the previously banned for cheating player to drop 400 and get a swift dub

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/478769602877194273/916546045343842324/unknown.png

elijah's teammates loading into the server every night ready for the previously banned for cheating player to drop 400 and get a swift dub
[img]https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/478769602877194273/916546045343842324/unknown.png[/img]
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#80
-60 Frags +

mad cuz bad idk what else to say here really.

mad cuz bad idk what else to say here really.
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#81
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https://www.tiktok.com/@jynxzi8/video/7233685798741134618?_op=1&_r=1&_t=8czAeBgK4Mc

https://www.tiktok.com/@jynxzi8/video/7233685798741134618?_op=1&_r=1&_t=8czAeBgK4Mc
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#82
15 Frags +
pajaro

crazy how you're bragging your game mode of choice is literally chock fucking full of cheaters

[quote=pajaro][/quote]

crazy how you're bragging your game mode of choice is literally chock fucking full of cheaters
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#83
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For what it’s worth I don’t see why there couldn’t be different severity for hl vs 6s, if they are more tolerant of ex cheaters reforming that’s fine, RGL should just poll people after this season to gauge things. My guess is 6s players would argue for longer bans (can u imagine someone cheating at a LAN and trying to play two years later), we’re already plagued with cancelled lans, top players leaving and people not taking invite as seriously as before, the absolute last thing this game needs is leniency on cheaters being another reason dissuading people from playing. The league is already very strict for other offenses, it seems perfectly reasonable to be extra strict on cheating for the same reasons (legitimacy, sponsors etc)

For what it’s worth I don’t see why there couldn’t be different severity for hl vs 6s, if they are more tolerant of ex cheaters reforming that’s fine, RGL should just poll people after this season to gauge things. My guess is 6s players would argue for longer bans (can u imagine someone cheating at a LAN and trying to play two years later), we’re already plagued with cancelled lans, top players leaving and people not taking invite as seriously as before, the absolute last thing this game needs is leniency on cheaters being another reason dissuading people from playing. The league is already very strict for other offenses, it seems perfectly reasonable to be extra strict on cheating for the same reasons (legitimacy, sponsors etc)
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#84
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Not sure why any of you older players are still surprised at this point. Since TF2's early days, cheating and cheaters have been accepted in this community more than any I have experienced in over 25 years of gaming. I can bounce like 6 names off the top of my head right now without really thinking hard on the subject.

Don't look for "the league" to solve the problem for everyone because you rarely ever get what you want or what is needed. The best action is for everyone possible to simply refuse to play in scrims/matches with those individuals. You can even include the cheaters teammates that probably actively choose to ignore the cheating past.

Change needs to be driven by the player base, not asked for with the admins.

Not sure why any of you older players are still surprised at this point. Since TF2's early days, cheating and cheaters have been accepted in this community more than any I have experienced in over 25 years of gaming. I can bounce like 6 names off the top of my head right now without really thinking hard on the subject.

Don't look for "the league" to solve the problem for everyone because you rarely ever get what you want or what is needed. The best action is for everyone possible to simply refuse to play in scrims/matches with those individuals. You can even include the cheaters teammates that probably actively choose to ignore the cheating past.

Change needs to be driven by the player base, not asked for with the admins.
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#85
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One thing I really wish the anticheat team would do is at least say the specific cheat they catch someone using when they ban someone, whether it be walls, triggerbot etc. I'm not even saying you need to release the specific clips/demos that got a player banned, but looking through demos of previously banned players is a lot more difficult when you don't actually know how they were cheating when they got banned. If I know they were banned for walls, I might try looking for instances of them looking in stupid spots with the enemy team in frame or their crosshair gravitating towards people through walls. Without that knowledge, it might be easy to say they're not cheating since there aren't any feno/cepi smoking gun moments.

One thing I really wish the anticheat team would do is at least say the specific cheat they catch someone using when they ban someone, whether it be walls, triggerbot etc. I'm not even saying you need to release the specific clips/demos that got a player banned, but looking through demos of previously banned players is a lot more difficult when you don't actually know how they were cheating when they got banned. If I know they were banned for walls, I might try looking for instances of them looking in stupid spots with the enemy team in frame or their crosshair gravitating towards people through walls. Without that knowledge, it might be easy to say they're not cheating since there aren't any feno/cepi smoking gun moments.
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#86
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det-One thing I really wish the anticheat team would do is at least say the specific cheat they catch someone using when they ban someone, whether it be walls, triggerbot etc.

One of the issues with doing that is it helps other cheaters/the same person avoid getting caught in the future. For example, if someone was using walls and silent aim, but only got banned for silent aim, they know they can continue to use walls. Or if every cheater that gets banned is getting banned for trigger bot, it signals to people that the AC team is really good at catching triggerbotters but not other things.

[quote=det-]One thing I really wish the anticheat team would do is at least say the specific cheat they catch someone using when they ban someone, whether it be walls, triggerbot etc. [/quote]

One of the issues with doing that is it helps other cheaters/the same person avoid getting caught in the future. For example, if someone was using walls and silent aim, but only got banned for silent aim, they know they can continue to use walls. Or if every cheater that gets banned is getting banned for trigger bot, it signals to people that the AC team is really good at catching triggerbotters but not other things.
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#87
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It's wild to me that these threads have been happening the entire time I've been playing with barely anything to show for it. Doesnt matter who the person is. Just wild.

It's wild to me that these threads have been happening the entire time I've been playing with barely anything to show for it. Doesnt matter who the person is. Just wild.
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#88
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I'm not surprised mopsy made this thread, considering he is a tranny.

I'm not surprised mopsy made this thread, considering he is a tranny.
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#89
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thats awesome and all but when are you getting out of main mudkip

thats awesome and all but when are you getting out of main mudkip
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#90
-38 Frags +
fygthats awesome and all but when are you getting out of main mudkip

that's awesome and all but weren't you also a tranny?

[quote=fyg]thats awesome and all but when are you getting out of main mudkip[/quote]
that's awesome and all but weren't you also a tranny?
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