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How exactly do crit arrows work?
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Ik that you need your patient to be in one of crit heal phases (max crit heals or ramping upto) and that the distance between the patient is somewhat proportional to the uber you get - but what are the numbers like?

I.e. what is the maximum and minimum uber % you get from an arrow and how long does it take (between beaming)?

I would test this out myself but my monitor broke recently

Ik that you need your patient to be in one of crit heal phases (max crit heals or ramping upto) and that the distance between the patient is somewhat proportional to the uber you get - but what are the numbers like?

I.e. what is the maximum and minimum uber % you get from an arrow and how long does it take (between beaming)?

I would test this out myself but my monitor broke recently
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Max range healing is 10% uber & 150 hp, min range 5% uber & 75 hp. Weapon switch time is 0.5s, its worth getting the free % the few times you get the chance to arrow someone with crit heals.

Max range healing is 10% uber & 150 hp, min range 5% uber & 75 hp. Weapon switch time is 0.5s, its worth getting the free % the few times you get the chance to arrow someone with crit heals.
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vaniMax range healing is 10% uber & 150 hp, min range 5% uber & 75 hp. Weapon switch time is 0.5s, its worth getting the free % the few times you get the chance to arrow someone with crit heals.

The weapon switch time is 0.5s but what would the uber % difference be if I just beamed him (suppose I was also building with someone until the patient got crit heals) and how long does firing the weapon take?
I guess the 2nd question implied is really, how long does it take to fire a bow between beaming - from ending the beam to starting it again

[quote=vani]Max range healing is 10% uber & 150 hp, min range 5% uber & 75 hp. Weapon switch time is 0.5s, its worth getting the free % the few times you get the chance to arrow someone with crit heals.[/quote]

The weapon switch time is 0.5s but what would the uber % difference be if I just beamed him (suppose I was also building with someone until the patient got crit heals) and how long does firing the weapon take?
I guess the 2nd question implied is really, how long does it take to fire a bow between beaming - from ending the beam to starting it again
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The difference is anywhere between 2-7% faster, 1 second to switch back and forth + 200ms for aiming leeway. Crossbow doesnt have startup time, you can shoot on the first frame & switch back immediately.

There is very little benefit to go for 1 frame arrows imo, not just for crit heal arrows but arrows in general. If you shoot 10 arrows and switch to the medigun on 1 frame after shooting compared to 200ms of leeway you're looking at a gain of less than 2 seconds, so even less than 5% uber.

The difference is anywhere between 2-7% faster, 1 second to switch back and forth + 200ms for aiming leeway. Crossbow doesnt have startup time, you can shoot on the first frame & switch back immediately.

There is very little benefit to go for 1 frame arrows imo, not just for crit heal arrows but arrows in general. If you shoot 10 arrows and switch to the medigun on 1 frame after shooting compared to 200ms of leeway you're looking at a gain of less than 2 seconds, so even less than 5% uber.
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vaniThe difference is anywhere between 2-7% faster, 1 second to switch back and forth + 200ms for aiming leeway. Crossbow doesnt have startup time, you can shoot on the first frame & switch back immediately.

There is very little benefit to go for 1 frame arrows imo, not just for crit heal arrows but arrows in general. If you shoot 10 arrows and switch to the medigun on 1 frame after shooting compared to 200ms of leeway you're looking at a gain of less than 2 seconds, so even less than 5% uber.

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[quote=vani]The difference is anywhere between 2-7% faster, 1 second to switch back and forth + 200ms for aiming leeway. Crossbow doesnt have startup time, you can shoot on the first frame & switch back immediately.

There is very little benefit to go for 1 frame arrows imo, not just for crit heal arrows but arrows in general. If you shoot 10 arrows and switch to the medigun on 1 frame after shooting compared to 200ms of leeway you're looking at a gain of less than 2 seconds, so even less than 5% uber.[/quote]

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waxtell me youre a virgin without telling me you are a virgin

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[quote=wax]tell me youre a virgin without telling me you are a virgin[/quote]
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waxvaniThe difference is anywhere between 2-7% faster, 1 second to switch back and forth + 200ms for aiming leeway. Crossbow doesnt have startup time, you can shoot on the first frame & switch back immediately.

There is very little benefit to go for 1 frame arrows imo, not just for crit heal arrows but arrows in general. If you shoot 10 arrows and switch to the medigun on 1 frame after shooting compared to 200ms of leeway you're looking at a gain of less than 2 seconds, so even less than 5% uber.

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[quote=wax][quote=vani]The difference is anywhere between 2-7% faster, 1 second to switch back and forth + 200ms for aiming leeway. Crossbow doesnt have startup time, you can shoot on the first frame & switch back immediately.

There is very little benefit to go for 1 frame arrows imo, not just for crit heal arrows but arrows in general. If you shoot 10 arrows and switch to the medigun on 1 frame after shooting compared to 200ms of leeway you're looking at a gain of less than 2 seconds, so even less than 5% uber.[/quote]

tell me youre a virgin without telling me you are a virgin[/quote]
u play the game just as much as he does except u suck ass
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arrows work with crit heals wtf

arrows work with crit heals wtf
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GrapeJuiceIIIarrows work with crit heals wtf

I'm pretty sure they don't though. I've never seen nor heard of it

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]arrows work with crit heals wtf[/quote]

I'm pretty sure they don't though. I've never seen nor heard of it
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eddiieeGrapeJuiceIIIarrows work with crit heals wtf
I'm pretty sure they don't though. I've never seen nor heard of it

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crusader%27s_Crossbow

I think the only way you could not know about the mechanic is if you just didn't play when arrow building was really good

[quote=eddiiee][quote=GrapeJuiceIII]arrows work with crit heals wtf[/quote]

I'm pretty sure they don't though. I've never seen nor heard of it[/quote]
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crusader%27s_Crossbow

I think the only way you could not know about the mechanic is if you just didn't play when arrow building was really good
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via wiki "ÜberCharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, ÜberCharge build rate) is; that is, the ÜberCharge gain rate is reduced by a third when the target has been damaged within the past 10 seconds, and scales back to normal over 10 to 15 seconds"

via wiki "ÜberCharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, ÜberCharge build rate) is; that is, the ÜberCharge gain rate is reduced by a third when the target has been damaged within the past 10 seconds, and scales back to normal over 10 to 15 seconds"
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PeteeddiieeGrapeJuiceIIIarrows work with crit heals wtf
I'm pretty sure they don't though. I've never seen nor heard of it
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crusader%27s_Crossbow

I think the only way you could not know about the mechanic is if you just didn't play when arrow building was really good

oh its about the uber%. i cant read, thought crossbow healing also scaled with critheals somehow. regardless, didnt know that was a thing though because it was my first season of open when arrow building was meta.

[quote=Pete][quote=eddiiee][quote=GrapeJuiceIII]arrows work with crit heals wtf[/quote]

I'm pretty sure they don't though. I've never seen nor heard of it[/quote]
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crusader%27s_Crossbow

I think the only way you could not know about the mechanic is if you just didn't play when arrow building was really good[/quote]
oh its about the uber%. i cant read, thought crossbow healing also scaled with critheals somehow. regardless, didnt know that was a thing though because it was my first season of open when arrow building was meta.
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