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#2401
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#2398
I'm holding off until further notice.

#2398
I'm holding off until further notice.
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#2402
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Hi nerds,

So I have a pc with an i5 4460 @ 3.2 Ghz and an AMD HD 7850. I get 200 fps average in - game, which is fine for me as I have a 60Hz monitor. However, I recently played on my friends PC with his 144Hz monitor and the difference was incredible and I would really like to get one.

MY QUESTION IS: How many frames should I look to be getting when running at 144Hz, can I achieve this with my current set up, and, ultimately, do I buy a 144Hz monitor yet or upgrade my PC first.

Recommendations on which parts to upgrade to would also be appreciated, bearing in mind my motherboard is an H81M and I have 8 GB of DDR3

Hi nerds,

So I have a pc with an i5 4460 @ 3.2 Ghz and an AMD HD 7850. I get 200 fps average in - game, which is fine for me as I have a 60Hz monitor. However, I recently played on my friends PC with his 144Hz monitor and the difference was incredible and I would really like to get one.

MY QUESTION IS: How many frames should I look to be getting when running at 144Hz, can I achieve this with my current set up, and, ultimately, do I buy a 144Hz monitor yet or upgrade my PC first.

Recommendations on which parts to upgrade to would also be appreciated, bearing in mind my motherboard is an H81M and I have 8 GB of DDR3
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#2403
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Well you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.
What would be your budget?

Well you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.
What would be your budget?
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#2404
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SetsulWell you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.
What would be your budget?

I don't have a lot. I've worked out I can have £500 by the end of the year. I'm not in a rush, but would like to have an idea of what I'm working towards.

[quote=Setsul]Well you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.
What would be your budget?[/quote]
I don't have a lot. I've worked out I can have £500 by the end of the year. I'm not in a rush, but would like to have an idea of what I'm working towards.
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#2405
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Are those 500£ including the monitor?

Are those 500£ including the monitor?
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#2406
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SetsulAre those 500£ including the monitor?

Yes, sadly. I'm happy to wait until I have more, just want to know what I should be looking at buying and how much it'll all cost.

[quote=Setsul]Are those 500£ including the monitor?[/quote]

Yes, sadly. I'm happy to wait until I have more, just want to know what I should be looking at buying and how much it'll all cost.
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#2407
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Well I've got nothing to work with here.
Just the monitor will be 200£ or more.
The smallest upgrade would be an i5-4570 and that'd be >200£ for 5% more performance.
The most expensive upgrade that still makes sense would be an i7-7700K overclocked to 5.0 GHz (~60% faster). You'll need a mobo and a cooler as well so that'd cost slightly less than 500£ + monitor.

By the end of the year new CPUs will be released, but it's kind of difficult to recommend them yet since neither the performance nor the names are known yet.
So I really don't know what you should be looking at buying.

Well I've got nothing to work with here.
Just the monitor will be 200£ or more.
The smallest upgrade would be an i5-4570 and that'd be >200£ for 5% more performance.
The most expensive upgrade that still makes sense would be an i7-7700K overclocked to 5.0 GHz (~60% faster). You'll need a mobo and a cooler as well so that'd cost slightly less than 500£ + monitor.

By the end of the year new CPUs will be released, but it's kind of difficult to recommend them yet since neither the performance nor the names are known yet.
So I really don't know what you should be looking at buying.
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#2408
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I don't see any reason for him not to upgrade to 144hz if he gets ~200fps average.

I don't see any reason for him not to upgrade to 144hz if he gets ~200fps average.
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#2409
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SetsulWell I've got nothing to work with here.
Just the monitor will be 200£ or more.
The smallest upgrade would be an i5-4570 and that'd be >200£ for 5% more performance.
The most expensive upgrade that still makes sense would be an i7-7700K overclocked to 5.0 GHz (~60% faster). You'll need a mobo and a cooler as well so that'd cost slightly less than 500£ + monitor.

By the end of the year new CPUs will be released, but it's kind of difficult to recommend them yet since neither the performance nor the names are known yet.
So I really don't know what you should be looking at buying.

That's fine. Thanks anyway! I'll probably just get a 144hz monitor and go from there. Any monitors that you could recommend specifically?

[quote=Setsul]Well I've got nothing to work with here.
Just the monitor will be 200£ or more.
The smallest upgrade would be an i5-4570 and that'd be >200£ for 5% more performance.
The most expensive upgrade that still makes sense would be an i7-7700K overclocked to 5.0 GHz (~60% faster). You'll need a mobo and a cooler as well so that'd cost slightly less than 500£ + monitor.

By the end of the year new CPUs will be released, but it's kind of difficult to recommend them yet since neither the performance nor the names are known yet.
So I really don't know what you should be looking at buying.[/quote]
That's fine. Thanks anyway! I'll probably just get a 144hz monitor and go from there. Any monitors that you could recommend specifically?
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#2410
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#2408

SetsulWell you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.

Upgrades he can afford would nothing, upgrades that would actually be a significant improvement he can't afford.
Yes, no reason to upgrade.

#2409
Size?
Resolution?
IPS yes/no?
Lightboost/ULMB yes/no?
G-Sync/FreeSync yes/no?

#2408
[quote=Setsul]Well you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.[/quote]
Upgrades he can afford would nothing, upgrades that would actually be a significant improvement he can't afford.
Yes, no reason to upgrade.

#2409
Size?
Resolution?
IPS yes/no?
Lightboost/ULMB yes/no?
G-Sync/FreeSync yes/no?
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#2411
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Hey, my computer's broken and I've been wanting to buy a new one so I'll take this as a sign. Budget of between £1500-2000, would be used for games (TF2/CS@144hz, as well as newer titles like Wolfenstein 2/Metro: Last Exodus) as well as video/music production (Premiere, After Effects, FL Studios). Already have monitors/peripherals, just need a functioning computer that would hopefully last me a while before needing a costly upgrade. Currently living in Denmark, thanks : )

Hey, my computer's broken and I've been wanting to buy a new one so I'll take this as a sign. Budget of between £1500-2000, would be used for games (TF2/CS@144hz, as well as newer titles like Wolfenstein 2/Metro: Last Exodus) as well as video/music production (Premiere, After Effects, FL Studios). Already have monitors/peripherals, just need a functioning computer that would hopefully last me a while before needing a costly upgrade. Currently living in Denmark, thanks : )
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Does that mean you're going to buy it in Denmark or in the UK? I mean you're living in Denmark but I don't think they accept GBP.

Does that mean you're going to buy it in Denmark or in the UK? I mean you're living in Denmark but I don't think they accept GBP.
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SetsulDoes that mean you're going to buy it in Denmark or in the UK? I mean you're living in Denmark but I don't think they accept GBP.

Can buy in either, it would be quicker to buy in Denmark, but I have family visiting from the UK later this month so they can bring it over if it's significantly cheaper compared to Danish prices.

[quote=Setsul]Does that mean you're going to buy it in Denmark or in the UK? I mean you're living in Denmark but I don't think they accept GBP.[/quote]
Can buy in either, it would be quicker to buy in Denmark, but I have family visiting from the UK later this month so they can bring it over if it's significantly cheaper compared to Danish prices.
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Setsul#2408SetsulWell you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.Upgrades he can afford would nothing, upgrades that would actually be a significant improvement he can't afford.
Yes, no reason to upgrade.

Not sure if I understand. I mean I don't see any reason for him not to buy a 144 hz monitor right now with his current rig. I don't think I even average 200 fps in fights. Your response #2403 made it sound like you're saying he needs to upgrade his PC before getting a 144 hz monitor will be useful.

[quote=Setsul]#2408
[quote=Setsul]Well you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus. You'll have to cap it anyway to not get screen tearing, so until you can get 288 fps all it would get you is more stable fps and/or fewer drops.[/quote]
Upgrades he can afford would nothing, upgrades that would actually be a significant improvement he can't afford.
Yes, no reason to upgrade.[/quote]

Not sure if I understand. I mean I don't see any reason for him not to buy a 144 hz monitor right now with his current rig. I don't think I even average 200 fps in fights. Your response #2403 made it sound like you're saying he needs to upgrade his PC before getting a 144 hz monitor will be useful.
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#2313
I guess Denmark then. 12k-17k DKK?
Now for some more details.
Standard mATX, smaller/larger?
SSD and HDD should be a given, size for each?
Rough guideline for the performance in games and for rendering? You can get 10 cores (16 if you're willing to wait until August) or a 1080 Ti, but not both at the same time and you probably wouldn't complain if a pc for less than 1500 GBP gets you the performance you want.

#2414

Gir_affeguyMY QUESTION IS: How many frames should I look to be getting when running at 144HzSetsulWell you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus.

Everything after that is because 200 fps without a cap on a 144 Hz monitor does not look good. So it's either 144 or 288. Any upgrade between that only gets you stability. He'll have to decide himself if that's worth it. That's why I told him the baseline price of any upgrade.

#2313
I guess Denmark then. 12k-17k DKK?
Now for some more details.
Standard mATX, smaller/larger?
SSD and HDD should be a given, size for each?
Rough guideline for the performance in games and for rendering? You can get 10 cores (16 if you're willing to wait until August) or a 1080 Ti, but not both at the same time and you probably wouldn't complain if a pc for less than 1500 GBP gets you the performance you want.

#2414
[quote=Gir_affeguy]MY QUESTION IS: How many frames should I look to be getting when running at 144Hz[/quote]
[quote=Setsul]Well you need at least 144 fps for it to be actually useful, anything beyond that is a bonus.[/quote]
Everything after that is because 200 fps without a cap on a 144 Hz monitor does not look good. So it's either 144 or 288. Any upgrade between that only gets you stability. He'll have to decide himself if that's worth it. That's why I told him the baseline price of any upgrade.
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Setsul#2313
I guess Denmark then. 12k-17k DKK?
Now for some more details.
Standard mATX, smaller/larger?
SSD and HDD should be a given, size for each?
Rough guideline for the performance in games and for rendering? You can get 10 cores (16 if you're willing to wait until August) or a 1080 Ti, but not both at the same time and you probably wouldn't complain if a pc for less than 1500 GBP gets you the performance you want.

I don't think the size should matter for either since I'd rather just overhaul everything and buy an appropriate case. But if I'm wrong, the HDD is 3.5", the motherboard is ATX.
At least ~300fps in TF2/CS using low quality configs (config personal preference only though), and stable 60 with ideally max graphics in newer titles. As for rendering sort of things it's music and video production, so the faster the better really. As long as it can run software without any hitches and a relatively fast rendering speed then I'm happy.
Also paying under 1500 is good but I would like to be able to use this PC for a while without needing upgrades, so I'm not opposed to spending more than I'd need at this time to ensure that in 3-4 years time it can still keep up to an extent.

[quote=Setsul]#2313
I guess Denmark then. 12k-17k DKK?
Now for some more details.
Standard mATX, smaller/larger?
SSD and HDD should be a given, size for each?
Rough guideline for the performance in games and for rendering? You can get 10 cores (16 if you're willing to wait until August) or a 1080 Ti, but not both at the same time and you probably wouldn't complain if a pc for less than 1500 GBP gets you the performance you want.[/quote]
I don't think the size should matter for either since I'd rather just overhaul everything and buy an appropriate case. But if I'm wrong, the HDD is 3.5", the motherboard is ATX.
At least ~300fps in TF2/CS using low quality configs (config personal preference only though), and stable 60 with ideally max graphics in newer titles. As for rendering sort of things it's music and video production, so the faster the better really. As long as it can run software without any hitches and a relatively fast rendering speed then I'm happy.
Also paying under 1500 is good but I would like to be able to use this PC for a while without needing upgrades, so I'm not opposed to spending more than I'd need at this time to ensure that in 3-4 years time it can still keep up to an extent.
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Yes, now the question is do you want a full ATX case or smaller/larger?
For the SSD and HDD size as in capacity.

Ok, now I've got something to work with for games, "the faster the better" always applies to rendering so I'm not quite sure about the balance between more expensive and faster yet.

Yes, now the question is do you want a full ATX case or smaller/larger?
For the SSD and HDD size as in capacity.

Ok, now I've got something to work with for games, "the faster the better" always applies to rendering so I'm not quite sure about the balance between more expensive and faster yet.
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SetsulYes, now the question is do you want a full ATX case or smaller/larger?
For the SSD and HDD size as in capacity.

Ok, now I've got something to work with for games, "the faster the better" always applies to rendering so I'm not quite sure about the balance between more expensive and faster yet.

A smaller case is ideal, but if it means the build costs too much/impairs it, then I'm not too fussed on size.
The HDD I had was 2TB so I'd be open to upgrading to 4TB or more, not too sure of how price changes but if it's not too drastic then more storage is always better.

As for rendering, there's not much more I can say to help you help me on that other than so long as it's under the budget I'm sure it'll be a major improvement from what I had, so anything that improves rendering and processing works for me.

[quote=Setsul]Yes, now the question is do you want a full ATX case or smaller/larger?
For the SSD and HDD size as in capacity.

Ok, now I've got something to work with for games, "the faster the better" always applies to rendering so I'm not quite sure about the balance between more expensive and faster yet.[/quote]
A smaller case is ideal, but if it means the build costs too much/impairs it, then I'm not too fussed on size.
The HDD I had was 2TB so I'd be open to upgrading to 4TB or more, not too sure of how price changes but if it's not too drastic then more storage is always better.

As for rendering, there's not much more I can say to help you help me on that other than so long as it's under the budget I'm sure it'll be a major improvement from what I had, so anything that improves rendering and processing works for me.
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#2419
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So a friend of mine is looking to ditch playing on his laptop and build his own desktop. His budget is $1200 and would also like to play at 144hz. He originally had this pcpartpicker list but after a quick look at it I knew he could do better.

He doesn't plan on doing any overclocking or heavy content creation (the most that he's told me that he's going to do is speedpaint) and I would like to make sure that he's getting a good value out of his first PC build

So a friend of mine is looking to ditch playing on his laptop and build his own desktop. His budget is $1200 and would also like to play at 144hz. He originally had [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KT6zcc]this[/url] pcpartpicker list but after a quick look at it I knew he could do better.

He doesn't plan on doing any overclocking or heavy content creation (the most that he's told me that he's going to do is speedpaint) and I would like to make sure that he's getting a good value out of his first PC build
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#2420
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#2418
Micro ATX it is then.
Not looking up Danish prices because I'm lazy. It's roughtly 50$ for 1TB, 65$ for 2TB, 80$ for 3TB and 110$ for 4TB. Lowest $/GB is still 3TB.
What about the SSD? If it's just for the OS (you really should get one at least for that) you don't need much, if you want all programs/games on it you need more and if you want to render onto it then I'd get two or a large one.

I'll probably start with the list tonight.

#2419
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($178.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.37 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SSC GAMING Video Card ($304.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: *Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($189.99 @ B&H)
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1223.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:55 EDT-0400

Faster CPU, cheaper RAM. If you're spending more on RAM than on the CPU you're doing something wrong.
Faster SSD.
Faster HDD.
Much faster GPU.
More reasonable PSU. A 550W PSU that costs more than the GPU for a 250W build doesn't make sense.

Could get a cheaper GPU and/or better monitor/headset (or even better seperate headphones + microphone).

#2418
Micro ATX it is then.
Not looking up Danish prices because I'm lazy. It's roughtly 50$ for 1TB, 65$ for 2TB, 80$ for 3TB and 110$ for 4TB. Lowest $/GB is still 3TB.
What about the SSD? If it's just for the OS (you really should get one at least for that) you don't need much, if you want all programs/games on it you need more and if you want to render onto it then I'd get two or a large one.

I'll probably start with the list tonight.

#2419
[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCpb9W]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCpb9W/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VtFXsY/amd-ryzen-5-1500x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd150xbbaebox]AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($178.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4]ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard[/url] ($77.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wd98TW/geil-memory-glw416gb3000c15adc]GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory[/url] ($116.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MZJkcf/sk-hynix-sl308-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs250g32tnd-n1a2a]SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/44Gj4D/seagate-barracuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm010]Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.37 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KqRFf7/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-ssc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6264-kr]EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SSC GAMING Video Card[/url] ($304.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w]Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na]Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] *[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140]Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit[/url] ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmyFf7/acer-monitor-umfg6aab01]Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor[/url] ($189.99 @ B&H)
[b]Headphones:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FWNp99/logitech-headphones-981000536]Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset[/url] ($38.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Total:[/b] $1223.15
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:55 EDT-0400[/i]

Faster CPU, cheaper RAM. If you're spending more on RAM than on the CPU you're doing something wrong.
Faster SSD.
Faster HDD.
Much faster GPU.
More reasonable PSU. A 550W PSU that costs more than the GPU for a 250W build doesn't make sense.

Could get a cheaper GPU and/or better monitor/headset (or even better seperate headphones + microphone).
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#2421
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Setsul#2418
Micro ATX it is then.
Not looking up Danish prices because I'm lazy. It's roughtly 50$ for 1TB, 65$ for 2TB, 80$ for 3TB and 110$ for 4TB. Lowest $/GB is still 3TB.
What about the SSD? If it's just for the OS (you really should get one at least for that) you don't need much, if you want all programs/games on it you need more and if you want to render onto it then I'd get two or a large one.

I'll probably start with the list tonight.

Fair enough, pretty unreasonable for me to ask for price comparison on top of parts. 3TB sounds good, as for SSDs it's similar to most other aspects, if it doesn't impact price too much then a larger one would be good. Thanks : )

[quote=Setsul]#2418
Micro ATX it is then.
Not looking up Danish prices because I'm lazy. It's roughtly 50$ for 1TB, 65$ for 2TB, 80$ for 3TB and 110$ for 4TB. Lowest $/GB is still 3TB.
What about the SSD? If it's just for the OS (you really should get one at least for that) you don't need much, if you want all programs/games on it you need more and if you want to render onto it then I'd get two or a large one.

I'll probably start with the list tonight.[/quote]
Fair enough, pretty unreasonable for me to ask for price comparison on top of parts. 3TB sounds good, as for SSDs it's similar to most other aspects, if it doesn't impact price too much then a larger one would be good. Thanks : )
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#2422
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Setsul
#2419
[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCpb9W
PCPartPicker part list[/url] / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($178.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($116.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.37 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SSC GAMING Video Card ($304.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: *Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor ($189.99 @ B&H)
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset ($38.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1223.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:55 EDT-0400

Faster CPU, cheaper RAM. If you're spending more on RAM than on the CPU you're doing something wrong.
Faster SSD.
Faster HDD.
Much faster GPU.
More reasonable PSU. A 550W PSU that costs more than the GPU for a 250W build doesn't make sense.

Could get a cheaper GPU and/or better monitor/headset (or even better seperate headphones + microphone).

Could the 3000 RAM be substituted for 2400 RAM and the extra money from it go towards maybe a better CPU or Graphics Card? Assuming that there's enough to make a jump in hardware. I'm also planning on helping him with the OS since I think I have an extra copy lying around that I could sell to him for less than what's listed on the pcpartpicker list for about $25

[quote=Setsul
#2419
[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCpb9W]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCpb9W/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VtFXsY/amd-ryzen-5-1500x-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd150xbbaebox]AMD - Ryzen 5 1500X 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor[/url] ($178.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4]ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard[/url] ($77.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wd98TW/geil-memory-glw416gb3000c15adc]GeIL - SUPER LUCE 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory[/url] ($116.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MZJkcf/sk-hynix-sl308-250gb-25-solid-state-drive-hfs250g32tnd-n1a2a]SK hynix - SL308 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/44Gj4D/seagate-barracuda-1tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm010]Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] ($49.37 @ OutletPC)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KqRFf7/evga-geforce-gtx-1060-3gb-ssc-gaming-video-card-06g-p4-6264-kr]EVGA - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB SSC GAMING Video Card[/url] ($304.98 @ Newegg)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w]Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case[/url] ($54.99 @ SuperBiiz)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FQ648d/corsair-power-supply-cp9020101na]Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] ($34.99 @ Newegg)
[b]Operating System:[/b] *[url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wtgPxr/microsoft-os-kw900140]Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit[/url] ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
[b]Monitor:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmyFf7/acer-monitor-umfg6aab01]Acer - GN246HL 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor[/url] ($189.99 @ B&H)
[b]Headphones:[/b] [url=https://pcpartpicker.com/product/FWNp99/logitech-headphones-981000536]Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel Headset[/url] ($38.99 @ Amazon)
[b]Total:[/b] $1223.15
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-19 07:55 EDT-0400[/i]

Faster CPU, cheaper RAM. If you're spending more on RAM than on the CPU you're doing something wrong.
Faster SSD.
Faster HDD.
Much faster GPU.
More reasonable PSU. A 550W PSU that costs more than the GPU for a 250W build doesn't make sense.

Could get a cheaper GPU and/or better monitor/headset (or even better seperate headphones + microphone).[/quote]
Could the 3000 RAM be substituted for 2400 RAM and the extra money from it go towards maybe a better CPU or Graphics Card? Assuming that there's enough to make a jump in hardware. I'm also planning on helping him with the OS since I think I have an extra copy lying around that I could sell to him for less than what's listed on the pcpartpicker list for about $25
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#2423
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#2421
Trains would be so much better if they actually showed up. At all. Fucking idiotic kids on the track.
I want to do this properly, not while I'm tired as fuck so this'll have to wait until tomorrow.

EDIT: Had a quick look at it just now.
Forgot to ask overclocking yes/no?
Also neither Wolfenstein 2 nor Metro: Exodus are out yet, so I can't use them as benchmarks.

#2422
Not really. 1600 would be slower, 1600X barely faster (6 cores won't help at all in most games) and he could just overclock the 1500X (CPU and mobo allow it) to 4.0 GHz instead. i5-7500 might not be faster, i5-7600 is 40$ more expensive, i5-7600K or i7 are definitely out of reach. Really, for games 1500X (+ OC if he wants to) is good enough.
2400 might actually end up canceling out any gains from a 7500 or 7600.

1060 6GB is already the largest possible jump. It's difficult even finding one a ~300$ due to mining, but now instead of being ~100$ more expensive a 1070 would cost 150$ more, that's definitely not happening.

#2421
Trains would be so much better if they actually showed up. At all. Fucking idiotic kids on the track.
I want to do this properly, not while I'm tired as fuck so this'll have to wait until tomorrow.

EDIT: Had a quick look at it just now.
Forgot to ask overclocking yes/no?
Also neither Wolfenstein 2 nor Metro: Exodus are out yet, so I can't use them as benchmarks.

#2422
Not really. 1600 would be slower, 1600X barely faster (6 cores won't help at all in most games) and he could just overclock the 1500X (CPU and mobo allow it) to 4.0 GHz instead. i5-7500 might not be faster, i5-7600 is 40$ more expensive, i5-7600K or i7 are definitely out of reach. Really, for games 1500X (+ OC if he wants to) is good enough.
2400 might actually end up canceling out any gains from a 7500 or 7600.

1060 6GB is already the largest possible jump. It's difficult even finding one a ~300$ due to mining, but now instead of being ~100$ more expensive a 1070 would cost 150$ more, that's definitely not happening.
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#2424
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SetsulEDIT: Had a quick look at it just now.
Forgot to ask overclocking yes/no?
Also neither Wolfenstein 2 nor Metro: Exodus are out yet, so I can't use them as benchmarks.

I've never overclocked before so if it's not a totally necessary then no.
I'm aware of that but they are pretty much what I'd be using it for in terms of games aside from TF2; just better looking, triple A titles, whatever you want to refer to new releases as.

[quote=Setsul]EDIT: Had a quick look at it just now.
Forgot to ask overclocking yes/no?
Also neither Wolfenstein 2 nor Metro: Exodus are out yet, so I can't use them as benchmarks.[/quote]
I've never overclocked before so if it's not a totally necessary then no.
I'm aware of that but they are pretty much what I'd be using it for in terms of games aside from TF2; just better looking, triple A titles, whatever you want to refer to new releases as.
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#2425
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Well there is no way to predict which GPU you'd need to get the performance you want (60fps/1080p/max, right?) in those games.
Since this is basically a guessing game I'll just give you multiple options and let you decide, then make the detailed partlist with danish prices.

Baseline:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor (£388.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£47.52 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£74.24 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£124.58 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.74 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£82.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB iChill X3 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.44 @ Novatech)
Total: £1440.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-20 17:46 BST+0100

1080 Ti would be about 20% faster, +200£.
An i7-7820X (+ different mobo) would be about 20% faster than the 1800X in Premiere, 10% in After Effects, 0-20% in games, depending on how much you're limited by the CPU. Cost +300£.
i7-7900X 25% Premiere, ~0% After Effects (lower baseclock than 7820X), 0-20% in games. Cost +650£. All still compared to the 1800X.
No idea about FL Studio.
If you want 12 or 16 cores you'll have to wait until August.

Well there is no way to predict which GPU you'd need to get the performance you want (60fps/1080p/max, right?) in those games.
Since this is basically a guessing game I'll just give you multiple options and let you decide, then make the detailed partlist with danish prices.

Baseline:
[url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PkqRPs]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PkqRPs/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7qyxFT/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-36ghz-8-core-processor-yd180xbcaewof]AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor[/url] (£388.00 @ Aria PC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7]CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (£47.52 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4]ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard[/url] (£74.24 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Q9L7YJ/team-t-force-night-hawk-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-thrd416g3000hc16cdc01]Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory[/url] (£124.58 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£84.74 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/j28H99/seagate-barracuda-3tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st3000dm008]Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£82.97 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/VtnG3C/inno3d-video-card-c108v32sdnp6dnx]Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB iChill X3 Video Card[/url] (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zV7CmG/phanteks-case-phes515ptg]Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3X2FT/evga-supernova-g3-eu-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550-y3]EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (£78.44 @ Novatech)
[b]Total:[/b] £1440.47
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-20 17:46 BST+0100[/i]

1080 Ti would be about 20% faster, +200£.
An i7-7820X (+ different mobo) would be about 20% faster than the 1800X in Premiere, 10% in After Effects, 0-20% in games, depending on how much you're limited by the CPU. Cost +300£.
i7-7900X 25% Premiere, ~0% After Effects (lower baseclock than 7820X), 0-20% in games. Cost +650£. All still compared to the 1800X.
No idea about FL Studio.
If you want 12 or 16 cores you'll have to wait until August.
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#2426
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SetsulWell there is no way to predict which GPU you'd need to get the performance you want (60fps/1080p/max, right?) in those games.
Since this is basically a guessing game I'll just give you multiple options and let you decide, then make the detailed partlist with danish prices.

Baseline:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor (£388.00 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler (£47.52 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (£74.24 @ CCL Computers)
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£124.58 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£84.74 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£82.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB iChill X3 Video Card (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£78.44 @ Novatech)
Total: £1440.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-20 17:46 BST+0100

1080 Ti would be about 20% faster, +200£.
An i7-7820X (+ different mobo) would be about 20% faster than the 1800X in Premiere, 10% in After Effects, 0-20% in games, depending on how much you're limited by the CPU. Cost +300£.
i7-7900X 25% Premiere, ~0% After Effects (lower baseclock than 7820X), 0-20% in games. Cost +650£. All still compared to the 1800X.
No idea about FL Studio.
If you want 12 or 16 cores you'll have to wait until August.

When you say the 1080 Ti is 20% faster, I'm assuming that's 20% in every aspect? If that's the case then that's probably the most cost effective way to upgrade performance, otherwise the i7-7820X seems like a better option (assuming you included the cost of a different mobo in that £300). On that note though, is not overclocking an issue i.e if I were comfortable with overclocking then would I get more/better of a CPU for the money?
12-16 cores, if they are more powerful at a similar price point (again, assuming this is why you bring it up), is it worth waiting in your opinion?

[quote=Setsul]Well there is no way to predict which GPU you'd need to get the performance you want (60fps/1080p/max, right?) in those games.
Since this is basically a guessing game I'll just give you multiple options and let you decide, then make the detailed partlist with danish prices.

Baseline:
[url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PkqRPs]PCPartPicker part list[/url] / [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PkqRPs/by_merchant/]Price breakdown by merchant[/url]

[b]CPU:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/7qyxFT/amd-ryzen-7-1800x-36ghz-8-core-processor-yd180xbcaewof]AMD - Ryzen 7 1800X 3.6GHz 8-Core Processor[/url] (£388.00 @ Aria PC)
[b]CPU Cooler:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7]CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler[/url] (£47.52 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Motherboard:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dWL7YJ/asrock-ab350m-pro4-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-ab350m-pro4]ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard[/url] (£74.24 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Memory:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Q9L7YJ/team-t-force-night-hawk-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-memory-thrd416g3000hc16cdc01]Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory[/url] (£124.58 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/3kL7YJ/samsung-internal-hard-drive-mz75e250bam]Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive[/url] (£84.74 @ Amazon UK)
[b]Storage:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/j28H99/seagate-barracuda-3tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st3000dm008]Seagate - Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive[/url] (£82.97 @ CCL Computers)
[b]Video Card:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/VtnG3C/inno3d-video-card-c108v32sdnp6dnx]Inno3D - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB iChill X3 Video Card[/url] (£499.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
[b]Case:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zV7CmG/phanteks-case-phes515ptg]Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case[/url] (£59.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
[b]Power Supply:[/b] [url=https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3X2FT/evga-supernova-g3-eu-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550-y3]EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 (EU) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply[/url] (£78.44 @ Novatech)
[b]Total:[/b] £1440.47
[i]Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available[/i]
[i]Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-07-20 17:46 BST+0100[/i]

1080 Ti would be about 20% faster, +200£.
An i7-7820X (+ different mobo) would be about 20% faster than the 1800X in Premiere, 10% in After Effects, 0-20% in games, depending on how much you're limited by the CPU. Cost +300£.
i7-7900X 25% Premiere, ~0% After Effects (lower baseclock than 7820X), 0-20% in games. Cost +650£. All still compared to the 1800X.
No idea about FL Studio.
If you want 12 or 16 cores you'll have to wait until August.[/quote]
When you say the 1080 Ti is 20% faster, I'm assuming that's 20% in every aspect? If that's the case then that's probably the most cost effective way to upgrade performance, otherwise the i7-7820X seems like a better option (assuming you included the cost of a different mobo in that £300). On that note though, is not overclocking an issue i.e if I were comfortable with overclocking then would I get more/better of a CPU for the money?
12-16 cores, if they are more powerful at a similar price point (again, assuming this is why you bring it up), is it worth waiting in your opinion?
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#2427
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Well only 20% faster if you're GPU limited. It won't magically make CPU rendering faster.
Basically just games.

https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=40573&width=800&height=800

https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=40735&width=800&height=800

Yes, 300£ including the mobo.

Yes, if you're overclocking you can either squeeze a few more percent out of the 7820X (power consumption goes way up though) or get a 1700 instead of an 1800X (100£ cheaper, 150 if you use the stock cooler) and oc it to the same 4.0 GHz an 1800X gets you except with all cores active (instead of dropping to 3.6 with all active). 1800X isn't worth getting for overclocking since it runs into the same wall at 4.0-4.1 that the 1700 can also reach.

Right now it's
1700 - 8C ~290£
7800X - 6C ~350£
1800X - 8C ~390£
7820X - 8C ~560£
7900X - 10C >900£

MSRP for the 1920X (12C) and 1950X (16C) will be 799$ and 999$ respectively. So probably around 600£ and 900£.
If you think that makes Intel's prices look ridiculous then keep in mind that the cheapest (and only) 8C, the i7-6900K at 1089$ used to be a bargain compared to the 10C i7-6950X at 1723$ MSRP.

Of course because Math is a bitch 50% more cores mean your rendering time is at best reduced by 1/3.

Well only 20% faster if you're GPU limited. It won't magically make CPU rendering faster.
Basically just games.
[img]https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=40573&width=800&height=800[/img]
[img]https://www.pugetsystems.com/pic_disp.php?id=40735&width=800&height=800[/img]

Yes, 300£ including the mobo.

Yes, if you're overclocking you can either squeeze a few more percent out of the 7820X (power consumption goes way up though) or get a 1700 instead of an 1800X (100£ cheaper, 150 if you use the stock cooler) and oc it to the same 4.0 GHz an 1800X gets you except with all cores active (instead of dropping to 3.6 with all active). 1800X isn't worth getting for overclocking since it runs into the same wall at 4.0-4.1 that the 1700 can also reach.

Right now it's
1700 - 8C ~290£
7800X - 6C ~350£
1800X - 8C ~390£
7820X - 8C ~560£
7900X - 10C >900£

MSRP for the 1920X (12C) and 1950X (16C) will be 799$ and 999$ respectively. So probably around 600£ and 900£.
If you think that makes Intel's prices look ridiculous then keep in mind that the cheapest (and only) 8C, the i7-6900K at 1089$ used to be a bargain compared to the 10C i7-6950X at 1723$ MSRP.

Of course because Math is a bitch 50% more cores mean your rendering time is at best reduced by 1/3.
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#2428
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Setsul

Right so before I can discuss upgrades I remembered I live in Denmark and there's a 25% VAT on everything (for example, the CPU costs 3648 DKK = £439). The current build is up from £1440 to £1800 with this applied so it makes any upgrades pushing it, since even the £200 to upgrade to a Ti would push it over £2000. I am able to get 20% off any purchase in Denmark over 1500 DKK (£180), so when it gets to sourcing parts in Denmark it would obviously be better to source as many parts as possible from one site/location
In this case, if I were to buy the CPU from one site on it's own, I'd get 20% off that CPU, in this case reducing it to 2919 DKK £351. Various parts under 1500 DKK would not receive a 20% discount. If I were to buy the CPU + various other parts together, I'd be getting a better deal as the 20% off applies to the entire purchase.
So ultimately my ability to go for better parts is decided by where I can buy the parts in Denmark. I'll have a look at this (obviously I'd appreciate help since I'm sure you know more about where to buy, probably even in Denmark) to see if there is room to upgrade.

[quote=Setsul][/quote]
Right so before I can discuss upgrades I remembered I live in Denmark and there's a 25% VAT on everything (for example, the CPU costs 3648 DKK = £439). The current build is up from £1440 to £1800 with this applied so it makes any upgrades pushing it, since even the £200 to upgrade to a Ti would push it over £2000. I am able to get 20% off any purchase in Denmark over 1500 DKK (£180), so when it gets to sourcing parts in Denmark it would obviously be better to source as many parts as possible from one site/location
In this case, if I were to buy the CPU from one site on it's own, I'd get 20% off that CPU, in this case reducing it to 2919 DKK £351. Various parts under 1500 DKK would not receive a 20% discount. If I were to buy the CPU + various other parts together, I'd be getting a better deal as the 20% off applies to the entire purchase.
So ultimately my ability to go for better parts is decided by where I can buy the parts in Denmark. I'll have a look at this (obviously I'd appreciate help since I'm sure you know more about where to buy, probably even in Denmark) to see if there is room to upgrade.
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#2429
0 Frags +

http://www.pricerunner.dk/
http://www.edbpriser.dk/
Just FYI.

http://www.pricerunner.dk/
http://www.edbpriser.dk/
Just FYI.
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#2430
0 Frags +
Setsulhttp://www.pricerunner.dk/
http://www.edbpriser.dk/
Just FYI.

Cheers. Just checking, if I do choose to upgrade the CPU will I need to upgrade the CPU cooler or will that one manage?

[quote=Setsul]http://www.pricerunner.dk/
http://www.edbpriser.dk/
Just FYI.[/quote]
Cheers. Just checking, if I do choose to upgrade the CPU will I need to upgrade the CPU cooler or will that one manage?
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