puoskari this has nothing to do with our safety, but with control. They told that there will eventually be obligatory injections and passes including them. That eventually you will have to take an experimental shot to be able participate in society, to enter stores, to go to the gym, to go to work etc.
This is something I've never really understood. It seems like a really bad move for most governments to put a lot of restrictions on people which end up being really bad for their economies, and involves a huge amount of spending and also international collaboration, just for some idea of "control" that doesn't seem to really benefit them in any way. The only control that's being exerted at the moment is the ability to tell people not to go to public spaces which doesn't seem like something that would be in their best interest in the first place without covid. For this to make any sense there needs to be something more tangible that governments are gaining imo.
puoskariHere THL(our equivalent of CDC which directly is taking directives from WHO) admits, that it doesn't matter what the reason of death is, if you die within a month after a positive test result, you'll be counted as a covid related death. In total we have 993 covid-related deaths in Finland and over 2000 serious adverse effect reports from jabs, at least 100 of which are vaccine-related deaths.
I think the reason this is done is because most people die of heart failure, brain haemorrhage, asphyxiation etc. it's often pretty hard to point and that and say "the virus caused the heart failure" or "the vaccine caused the heart failure" etc. I don't know about Finland specifically but I believe most places count vaccine deaths similarly as "people who died shortly after having the vaccine where there isn't some obvious other cause".
If we think that the two death numbers are at all comparable, then you've got 100 deaths with 2 mil vaccines (incidence rate of 1 in 20000, and it's probably lower because I haven't looked at the number of people who just had 1 dose, and the death figures might include that), and ~1000 with ~113k total Covid cases reported in Finland (incidence rate of a bit under 1 in 100). I don't see data anywhere for hospitalizations in Finland, but again the incidence of hospitalization with the virus has been significantly higher than the incidence of hospitalization after taking the vaccine in other countries.
Obviously there are a lot more factors that play into your risk like age, state of health etc. but even though the numbers we have are pretty ballpark, the fact that there's a 2 orders of magnitude difference means it's almost certainly safer to get a vaccine than get covid. It's pretty understandable to be worried about the severe side effects from the vaccine, but it's worth the risk in most cases. The only reason I can think that getting a vaccine would be worse for you is if you think your chances of actually getting covid are extremely low, and that can change pretty rapidly if for example there's a new wave in Finland.
puoskari At least in Finland, not a single under 30-year old have died due to this, and afaik not many have had to go to ICU.
I might do some reading on the breakdown of adverse effects per age group. I definitely know a few people in their 20s who have had severe effects, one who was on a ventilator, then got a pseudomonas infection in the lungs (fortunately there were antibiotics that worked) and who is still having severe breathing problems over a year later. That's anecdotal though so it doesn't mean much.