whitepuzzle
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Signed Up January 6, 2018
Last Posted August 7, 2019 at 11:06 AM
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#1838 mastercomfig - fps/customization config in Customization

I went back and forth a lot today and I really do feel that 15.2ms feels faster for projectiles. I think that 15.2ms projectile and 21.0ms hitscan is the best balance as long as you aren't getting a lot of dropped packets on 15.2ms.

posted 1 week ago
#1833 mastercomfig - fps/customization config in Customization
mastercomsYeah, because hitscan has pretty much no downside with interp. It's fully lag compensated. With 30.3ms, you get guaranteed protection against packet loss and slightly more predictable/stabler entity movement.

Does the higher interp not also delay the visibility of enemy projectiles, though?

Also, is there a module to enable low violence mode so that I can avoid having violence_hblood 0 in my autoexec? I'd prefer to consolidate all graphics config related stuff in modules.cfg.

posted 2 weeks ago
#1831 mastercomfig - fps/customization config in Customization
mastercomswhitepuzzleWhat happened to 17.9ms interp? Not worthwhile compared to 15.2 and 21.0?Yeah, I increased it to 21ms based on human tolerances to get a bit more in the buffer.

If the lerp display only rarely flashes yellow at 21.0ms interp, should I bother using 'safe' snapshots to get 30.3ms interp for hitscan classes?

posted 2 weeks ago
#1829 mastercomfig - fps/customization config in Customization

What happened to 17.9ms interp? Not worthwhile compared to 15.2 and 21.0?

posted 2 weeks ago
#1823 mastercomfig - fps/customization config in Customization

6.12.2 broke fence anti-aliasing again for me. Now fences look bad whether 'aa=medium' or 'aa=high' is in modules.cfg.

Fixable by manually specifying mat_alphacoverage=1 in console... Intentional change?

posted 2 weeks ago
#605 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion

The roadmaps listed Zen+ but show Zen 3 coming straight after Zen 2.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12233/amd-tech-day-at-ces-2018-roadmap-revealed-with-ryzen-apus-zen-on-12nm-vega-on-7nm

posted 2 weeks ago
#603 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion

According to roadmaps there is no Zen 2 refresh planned, it's straight on to Zen 3.

posted 3 weeks ago
#601 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion
kamild1996_v2500 reboots later (not really, just under a hundred actually; don't do B450 boards, kids), here I am testing the 3700X. Results are in.

Setup details:
- Windows 10 1903
- GeForce driver 431.60
- GeForce Experience with replay enabled, no game optimization
- game details: mastercomfig v6 latest, 1080p, DX9, mastercomfig's launch parameters, mods: budhud, Less Distracting Explosions, mastercomfig addons (mouse tweaks, no pyroland, no soundscapes, no tutorial)
- tested with timedemo_runcount set at 3, so stuff being loaded in doesn't lower the results

Since there's a ton of data, I figured it'd be better to show it all in a table, and since TFTV doesn't have tables... Here's a Google Docs link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AGtyRBvgcpYv2T8h9bSgx9IDd8fXFES175tPrsK5hMI/edit?usp=sharing

whitepuzzle, I think you'll be happy with the results ;)

I was worried that Zen's higher memory latency compared to CFL would hurt TF2 performance (seeing how it's so sensitive to memory frequency and timings) but it looks like it doesn't matter too much.

At this rate, Zen 3 should be straight up faster than CFL, if not later batch Zen 2s with a more mature process and better clocks.

posted 3 weeks ago
#591 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion

4812 frames 15.901 seconds 302.62 fps ( 3.30 ms/f) 40.062 fps variability

benchmark_test.dem

posted 3 weeks ago
#589 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion

What's the most common one people are using now?

posted 3 weeks ago
#587 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion

Waiting on Zen 2 benchmark1 run with mastercomfig v6 medium-low (or v7 low) then. Because if it can do at least 280fps under that condition, I will surely pick up a 3700X soon.

posted 3 weeks ago
#585 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion
SetsulNot really. There's 4400+ RAM on the QVLs. It's 2:1 for the IF clock beyond 3733 though so it only benefits bandwidth, not latency.
You asked for benchmarks with 3733, so now you don't get to act like 3200 vs 4133 is a completely fair and realistic scenario.

Either way different demos and different configs so I'm not sure where you're going with this. Or did you really think that just pushing it to 5.0 and using 4133CL17 would make the 8350K >50% faster than a 3600X?
The only other results (equally unfair) are actually higher than yours. So I don't get where the "pounding all these Zen2 chips" talk is coming from.

Clocks != voltage. 4.9 is less common than 4.8, 5.0 is less common than 4.9 and so on. Big surprise. That doesn't tell you what they consider excessive vcore or if they are limited by voltages at all, not thermals.
On top of that 8350Ks that make it to 5.2 by silicon lottery's standards exist and I can absolutely guarantee that those don't need excessive vcore for 4.9. I mean they claimed 82% to 4.9, 59% to 5.0. Does that mean they always use excessive vcore? That'd be your definition then, not theirs because they obviously think that vcore was fine.

Didn't realise people were using different benchmarks now, I just assumed everyone was posting benchmark1.dem results so there would be a common reference point.

And above 1.4v is excessive vcore for Coffee Lake because it's well beyond the optimal range of efficiency. Beyond 1.4v you start getting very large increase in heat generation for little improvement in clocks. Not unsafe (1.45+), but excessive.

posted 3 weeks ago
#583 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion
SetsulwhitepuzzleNot sure what you mean. My 8350K is pounding all these Zen 2 chips in TF2 performance. Unless you mean you regret not getting a much better overall chip that still has decent TF2 performance.Which one do you mean?
Moist running a stock 3600 with 3200 RAM, benching a completely different config and demo and getting 360 fps? How is that getting pounded by the 8350K?
Or do you mean mousiope's stock 3600X again with 3200 RAM, no config and highest settings getting 190 fps? I guess 300 fps is a lot more than 190, but by the same logic the 8350K is also pounding itself. Drop the RAM to 3200 (probably CL16?) run -autoconfig, crank everything up to max and see how many fps are left. There's still the overclock and different scaling with RAM but at least you'll have a better idea of what the performance difference looks like.
whitepuzzle4900 and above start to require excessive vcore.That depends on the chip. And what you define as "excessive vcore".
I've seen 7600Ks at 5.0 with 1.25V.

Higher RAM speed is an Intel advantage in this case as even Zen 2's memory controller won't achieve as high of a RAM clock.

And with voltages I'm going off SiliconLottery's stats for how common certain clocks are.

posted 3 weeks ago
#581 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion
smesiwhitepuzzle
Not sure what you mean. My 8350K is pounding all these Zen 2 chips in TF2 performance. Unless you mean you regret not getting a much better overall chip that still has decent TF2 performance.
really?
i get around 200-210 fps in the mastercoms benchmark (with mastercoms medium-low) at 4ghz (i oc'd to 4.5 for a bit and it wasn't that much of a difference), nowhere near as close as the 300+ fps people are posting here

RAM matters a lot too for TF2. I have B-die at 4133 which allows >290 FPS in benchmark1.dem. You should OC to at least 4800 on your 8350K, which can be achieved with a fair voltage. 4900 and above start to require excessive vcore.

posted 3 weeks ago
#579 TF2 benchmarks in TF2 General Discussion
smesijesus fucking christ
overtime i've regretted going for a 8350k instead of a ryzen 5 when i built my pc, even more so with zen2 putting out these numbers in the tf2 benchmark
ofc i'm not gonna buy a brand new motherboard and cpu just to get more fps in tf2 (i def would if i had some left over money) but i'm super impressed with zen2

Not sure what you mean. My 8350K is pounding all these Zen 2 chips in TF2 performance. Unless you mean you regret not getting a much better overall chip that still has decent TF2 performance.

posted 3 weeks ago
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