Agree completely with magic that administratively the non AC side has been handled sub-optimally.

There is a lot to unpack in this statement as a whole but I wanted to focus on one part here:

This may be a hot take, but I really do not think the 100% confidence threshold is a desirable goal. I understand that exa is just speaking colloquially here, but the amount of evidence one would need to go from, say, 95% -> "100%" confidence is probably several magnitudes more than going from like 50% -> 90%. In many situations it's probably not even possible; imagine you have cheating parameters a and k where a is the number of times you cheat per demo (such as the number of times you toggle triggerbot for an important flank) and k is the average number of demos in which you cheat (where k = 1 means you cheat in every demo). For a and k sufficiently small, maybe like a = 2 and k=1/5 (not too unrealistic for somebody cheating on a top team with only a couple hard matches per regular season), and assuming each instance of cheating is not super blatant, are you really ever going to reach this so called "100%" confidence threshold? I feel like this does not converge even asymptotically as the total number of demos n increases.

I don't know what the right % cutoff should be, it's all arbitrary in the end at a certain point. But I think the situation of "hey we're like 98% sure this guy is cheating and ruining the league right now buuuuuuuuuuut that's not 100%" would be pretty silly if that's how it currently is.

I think this standard especially in the elijah case has really contributed towards the recent animosity. Recall that elijah already had a previous cheating ban and was, at least in my eyes and many others, cheating pretty blatantly. And yet it still took 2+ months to ban them. Assume this is because of the extremely stringent standard RGL AC imposes. What kind of lesson am I, a player, supposed to take from that? How long would it take for a cheater with no previous cheating history who is cheating like half as blatantly to get caught? How many matches, playoffs, seasons would they ruin? Why would I want to play in a league like that?

The alternative explanation of course is that AC is simply overtaxed, which is fair we all live busy lives. But still I would hope that cheater priority is at least skewed top heavy, sorry to those in newcomer.

Edit: I accidentally edited op oops.

Exa made this post on the rgl forums, thought I'd repost here:

https://forums.rgl.gg/topic/3554/reiterating-anti-cheat-policies-global-rule-updates-and-february-2024-bans

Selected quotes, emphasis mine:

https://i.redd.it/krj0nqpp7hw81.jpg

Just wanted to comment on the second part, but considering RGL has always been big on its "image" the impact of cheaters especially in playoffs can't be understated. I've had pubbers/people who don't play comp still to this day reference highlander as full of cheaters because of that one season 8 years ago now where the first place sniper in plat/gold/silver all got vac'd, and I think it's gotten to the point where the rumor has spread from "highlander is full of cheaters" to "comp is full of cheaters" in general. Especially a bad look with the whole bot shit going on rn.

Man if safrix is cheating and still the worst player on his team we need a harsher punishment than banned from rgl, perhaps the brazen bull ICANT

mfs really cutting players for playoffs when u have a cheating player can't make this shit up

I know ur ass was sweating for a second there

They didn't mirror alfa's cheating ban when he was banned from UGC, so I'm not sure exactly how it works.

Crazy that 2017 was 7 years ago, thanks everybody for running this. miggy was a true homie.

All the invite level admins are also rostered on other playoff teams (yogrrt/exa) so they have conflict of interest. In an ideal world you have an invite level admin who is not rostered to avoid shit like this but the # of invite players who simultaneously have the time/desire to be an admin but not to play the game is probably 0 lol.

ruwin don't talk about women

alright guys see ya'll again in like 2 weeks

Fate worse than death (living in Brazil).

But man this is penalizing MAL for sharting to froyo but 100x worse cause removing 2nd seed from playoffs (with relatively new players to boot) is absolute insanity.

The only invite level admins that I'm aware of are exa and yoggrt who I imagine have recused themselves from this decision because they have conflict of interest (or at least I desperately hope so), so you just know that another IM level player did this.

BTW no demos or STV is public so not sure how this was even assessed... the cast ...?

In high school I forgot I had my gf added on steam and I missed her calls while playing tf2

ruwin in HL first showed the benefit of just tanking heals on the scout class, I think also in 6s as well but I'm less confident on that front

FLOOR_MASTER the goat made tf2lobby (as in brimstone's link) and also was a part of the ancient TEAM ROOMBA griefing videos, what a goat.