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#94 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion
CaptainZidgelI actually feel so bad for you, that you thought this in your brain and thought it changed anything, or was even valid (newsflash armchair linguist: language changes with context and time, English is not bound by millennium-old Greek suffixes, and you clearly knew what they meant by -phobic if you knew to find the suffix for hatred, so your pedantry accomplishes nothing). I hope you enter human society and form a connection with another human being one day.

I'm sorry you are too stricken with ennui to truly care about the many travesties we have to bear when using the english language, such as the horrible choice of using "phobos" as a suffix. For instance, the second greatest philosopher ever, Charles Sanders Peirce, felt the same way about more conventional words like "philosophy" and "phenomenology", opting for "cenoscopy" and "phaneroscopy".
The term “phaneron” is one Peirce took from the Greek φανερός, meaning what is “visible” or “manifest”. The choice of this word seems calculated in a certain way to distinguish it from the “phenomenon”, or the “thing appearing to view”; that is, while the term “phenomenon” is limited to the object in question (and thus its import specified by whether one presumes realism or idealism), the manifestness of the phaneron embraces a wider range of possible meaning: for in what is manifest—and this interpretation is strengthened by texts of Peirce soon to follow—in what is manifest we have more than merely what comes upon us from without, but include also the provenations following from the activity of our own minds.

To quote Peirce:

C. S. Peirce, Letters to William JamesThe phaneron, as I now call it, the sum total all of the contents of human consciousness, which I believe is about what you (borrowing the term of [the radical positivist, Richard] Avenarius) call pure experience,– but I do not admit the point of view of Avenarius to be correct or to be consonant to any pragmatism, nor to yours, in particular, and therefore I do not like that phrase. For me experience is what life has forced upon us,–a vague idea no doubt. But my phaneron is not limited to what is forced upon us; it also embraces all that we most capriciously conjure up, not objects only but all modes of contents of cognitional consciousness.

You can accuse me of appealing to semantics, but saying exactly what we mean is quite important.

knsumethis is unironically the single most stupid fucking thing i have ever read on this site lmao

Sorry, but you are sorely mistaken. Nothing that spirates from my mind can be vis a vis "stupid" as since I have been tested on the WAIS scale for an intelligence quotient of over 150. What about you, friend?

posted 8 months ago
#70 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion
ReeroIn cases like lolguy's and even scratchh's there is room for argument on whether or not they should have been banned. In this case nobody is gonna award any sympathy to someone who changed their name to a slur in a match. Like what were you expecting? Of course you were gonna get banned lol you were just testing RGL at this point. (I still stand by my point that RGL stalking peoples profiles and grasping at straws is dumb, just this ban was warranted).

He didn't use a slur in his name, and it can't be argued that he used a slur in his name. Read what I said, Anthony.

ReeroAlso worth mentioning that melon has been pretty openly transphobic and homophobic in this community for quite some time now. <image of gunboats>

Melon is not openly "transphobic" or "homophobic", this is clear from anyone who has ever dipped their feet into linguistics. For instance, φόβος in Greek is referring to a "fear, terror, alarm, fright, panic". However, it is clear that Melon, from the act of giving his gunboats such a direct name, does not have a fear of transsexual peoples. A more fitting suffix could be -apostrophic, from the Greek αποστροφή, for disgust or repugnance. So, it cannot be argued that Melon here has been openly homophobic or transphobic, but perhaps he is homoapostrophic or transapostrophic. How these more correct significations of the scenario and how they apply to RGL rules is clearly yet to be determined.

alfa

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posted 8 months ago
#51 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion
Pops_The fact that there are currently riots going on all around the US because of the police state sanctioned murder of a black man mere days ago, but people are still going "why can't I say the n-word in Chinese :( " is absolutely fucking wild.

tftv never ceases to amaze me.

Kind sir, what an introspective post! I really never thought about it that way. Here. I'll give you some gold for this post... it is times like these where I really fucking love the internet, and that some hope for humanity has been kindled in my otherwise tired soul.

Again, thank you for your bravery.

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posted 8 months ago
#47 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion
mustardoverlordcharledid this guy genuinely just try to prove a point by linking a six nine video or am i dreaming
I'm sure he would only do that if melontf, the guy who literally spent his time on here writing pewdiepie defense posts, is actually an inner-city hispanic guy right??

So it matters that 6ix9ine is an inner city hispanic guy? I thought it was "literally a black and white issue"?
I guess it really isn't, since safrix and dogo_ have been banned for racism.

posted 8 months ago
#39 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion
mustardoverlordliterally everyone knows this melon kid isnt black lmao please just stop

Alright, so I'd want to see the ban reason changed from "used a slur" to "is culturally insensitive".

mustardoverlordironically, it is LITERALLY a black and white issue

Yeah?

posted 8 months ago
#36 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion
ova1172 whole paragraphs of mental gymnastics into why using slurs is a good thing to do ... if you put a fraction of that effort into not using slurs you don't get banned in the first place lmao it really isn't that hard.

That's not at all what I'm saying.
Here is UGK's Diamonds and Wood. Are these rappers using the word as a slur?

mustardoverlordTitle: "THIS RGL TYRANNY WILL NOT STAND"

Post: "...but like what if I am just rapping along with my favorite song, and I'm the only person in the room, and I just get really into it? surely it's fine then"

I'm not saying the word should be used by people who aren't black, but there is trouble in identifying someone's ethnicity through profiles set up by them that don't have to be exactly representative of who they truly are. So, policing the word's usage in this context is far from a black-and-white issue.

posted 8 months ago
#1 Yet another insane RGL ban handed out in TF2 General Discussion

A TF2 player named MelonTf, on TFTV as 2Melon, has received a ban on RGL for the "use of racial slur in players alias during RGL match."
Looking at the logs of the RGL match in question, Melon's alias at the time was "Tay Keith他妈的这些黑鬼". When taking the Chinese section of his username, it translates roughly into "Fuck these nigga".

What Melon's alias is actually referencing is a producer tag of Tay Keith, a hip hop producer who marks beats he produces with a vocal line in the beginning saying "Tay Keith, fuck these niggas up". Melon's alias is not using "nigga" as a slur, as the word as used in his alias (and the original thing being referenced) is used as a way to address a (fellow) black person, or when plural, sometimes a group of people without racial distinction, as opposed to the word being used in a disparaging way. The reason part of his alias was translated into Chinese is just due to a Chinese translation meme of the past year or so (he definitely took his alias from somewhere else on the internet, and many people who will read this will recognize it).

Expanding upon what was said before: the word as a slur is ordinarily displayed with a hard-r representation. The word as a term of endearment/means of addressing a person or group, usually does not appear in this form. Since signing up for RGL does not require a player to dox themselves and reveal their ethnicity, it can become difficult to police if saying "nigga" would warrant abuse (even though in this case it doesn't even matter since it's entirely referential), but at the same time, banning the word from being used entirely chooses to ignore a small but normative part of black culture.

Also, it's safe to say this ban is definitely the result of RGL's own witch hunting of their self-identified "problem members" who were identified in a large banwave back in January, as no sane person playing against them or viewing the logs would even bother to translate his alias.
(Open question to RGL: what were the reasons for the bans placed on kuhnockers, phoxx, and della, other than "associating with bad people"?)
Quoting from a previous RGL ban thread:

ReeroVeccThey are literally digging thru logs to ban peoplefunny thing is that they literally do this. i have heard from an unnamed rgl admin that several members from the admin team would talk about how they "needed to find evidence to ban scratch" and would actively stalk his logstf page to find anything they could pass off as bannable.
this league is a fucking joke

Obviously, it's not just Scratchh receiving this treatment.

TL;DR: RGL's language policing is extremely poor. RGL wants to boot some allegedly awful players out of their league, but their attempts to do so have thus far had absolutely terrible justifications.

I only feel the need to make this issue public since I don't believe RGL admins will do anything otherwise, and just silently backpedal on bans only after the general public disagrees, for the nth time, with more to come.

posted 8 months ago
#105 another one bites the dust in TF2 General Discussion

Yeah and after kev is banned, can we get this recidivist homophobe "b3arodactyl" to receive the punishment he surely deserves? Killing 4 invite teams isn't good enough, how about we kill 5!
https://clips.twitch.tv/HonestBombasticOpossumKappaClaus

posted 9 months ago
#11 RGL S3 Invite Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion
trippaGlad that 4 prospective invite teams have had players banned leading to 3 team deaths with a 4th possibly to come, this season is sure to be great

I mean come on trip... its the current year bro.. if choking off the highest level of the game is what needs to be done so we can stop people from saying "gay" and "kys"... then so be it....

posted 9 months ago
#53 another one bites the dust in TF2 General Discussion
gemm

This might not be so obvious to you, but there might be a difference between someone saying "Literally kill yourself, go fucking- go in the middle of the road, on the highway, and let a fucking semi run you over", as former RGL contributor stephanie did -- and someone typing a mere "kys" in a game chat and nothing more.

posted 9 months ago
#34 another one bites the dust in TF2 General Discussion

https://i.imgur.com/H7FIqYh.png

http://logs.tf/1961494
You guys remember Rewind II?

posted 9 months ago
#46 RGL Traditional Sixes Season 3 announced in News

From The Same League that (BREAKING NEWS) "Stalks [A CERTAIN PLAYER]'s Logs.TF Profile Trying To Find Reasons To Ban Said Player"
- A Person That May Or May Not Be Involved On The RGL Administration Team at this Current Time.

posted 9 months ago
#182 TF2 and CS:GO's source code got leaked in TF2 General Discussion

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PogGNU am i Right Guys?

posted 10 months ago
#4 What happened to Alle’s youtube channel? in Videos

Ns tb JAU yldz "vwgztkhg" ECWM I'm sure he is fine! :)

posted 10 months ago
#8 froyotech picks up skeez in News
cookiejake has slipped back into retirement

Correction: cookiejake is not retired, he is playing "Main" with other "Main" players such as desca, mr popo, zilly and John Milter.

posted 10 months ago
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