fuck, and I had a chimay in the fridge waiting to be unbottled when we would score a goal too. that first goal by Italy was pure sex

we can disagree on the reasons why and what would have prevented it, but it's no secret that ISIS really loves murdering gay people.

they been playing quite meh in the run up the the EC though

Why don't you start reading the thread and see the first response already derailed the discussion, and when an actual Russian tries to clarify, and get responses like *blabber* and more shit thrown towards him, well, i'm compelled to contribute to that matter which is obviously way more pressing to the people who replied and ignored the thread subject to bash on a Russian , and look at you, blaming me of "not contributing until goaded by people telling you to stop" while you only contribute after i point out you didn't. How much more of a hypocrite can you get?

Then why don't you actually comment on the subject instead of throwing a tantrum and not actually contributing anything yourself? Like, it's good that e-sports are being recognised, might be for less idealistic reasons like wru pointed out, but it's just a first step towards a future where games are broadcasted live on tv in pubs and you have people cheering or crossing their fingers since they placed their bets.

delete your account

The propaganda ban came after various backed US-sponsered groups are trying to rile up tensions between Russia (which just like eastern europe is socially conservative) and western europe/USA and then cry to the world how awful Russia is, Imagine someone sending 10 000 books of mein campf to random people in Israel, which could cause legal problems to them and solves nothing (and this is the fkh8 colouring book campaign before the Sochi olympics). and then claim it's only in the name of "freedom"

http://stopfckh8.tumblr.com/post/67388296293/stonertaire-so-i-am-a-queer-russian-yes-hello-i

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/putin-homosexual-groups-should-leave-kids-alone

and I agree, in youth children go through different phases, and sexual orientation is a private matter, and you need some maturity and life experience, so you can decide for yourself that the choices you make in love are your own and true. how many kids aren't there growing up now, who think they are gay or transexual, becuase it's so trendy to be so there is this weird kind of peer pressure, and then years later you get to read these really sad stories of de transistioned people or even worse, suicides?

then why is everyone piling up to attack shoras becuase he is telling the truth? Oh wait, it's because he's Russian, and people are indoctrinated to hate anyone from that country.

As a gay person, I have to agree with shoras though. Merit does not come out of whatever your identify or what your sexual preference is, it's your actions as a person.

everyone on team noob butt me..

Good post and you know your stuff , but i don't think anyone made the case that the actual design was anything like ancient times, but it depends if the ship has a flat bottom surfacehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cog_(ship)#/media/File:CMM_-_Przekr%C3%B3j_poprzeczny_kogi.JPG , becuase than it might as well be a cog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cog_(ship)#/media/File:Bremen_Hansekogge_RolandvonBremen.JPG and if i'm not mistaken Frisian pirates would use these, and frisian pirates have been a thing since Roman times, so they probably know how to designate a good raiding vessel by the '800s

I think you misunderstood what i said, because that's exactly what I meant when i said they had their ships build on their western coastline, including from the Ionians who were crushed in the rebellion which lead to the first greco-Persian war. They provided over 100 ships to the Persian Navy and were not on the greek side for the second Greco-Persian war which had the battle of Salamis. My fault for just using the term ionian coastline then, but I meant that they wouldn't be able to use a fleet constructed in the persian golf.

The persian navy was constructed in the Ionian cities, it's not as if they could construct them in the persian gulf and sail all the way across africa to reach the meditterrean. and the Romans in the first punic war didnt even have control over sicily or entire Italy. The vast Roman empire only started being a thing AFTER having three punic wars. And in the books, the Ironborn do have fortresses captured on the coasts, so i imagine they would just import lumber from there; they have more ground under "temoporary control" untampered by any authority on the western westeros mainland then is shown in the series..

But yeah spartan you're absolutely right if it seems they don't have either the resources or the menpower for their goals, based on the outcome of the previous rebellion and war they had and what you see of them in the series. a 1000 ships in one month, would be crewed by tens of thousands of men, who also have to build them and have to run agriculture/fishing metallurgy in the meantime. They should have took a page from the Dutch and had them steal the Lannister navy's flagships.

Xerxes of the Persian empire has been said to build up a fleet of 1207 ships in the two years before the battle of Salamis.

The Romans, has to build up their fleet in one season multiple times, after storms basically wreck most of their navy

"Despite the Roman victories at sea, the Roman Republic lost countless ships and crews during the war, due to both storms and battles. On at least two occasions (255 and 253 BC) whole fleets were destroyed in bad weather; the disaster off Camarina in 255 BC counted two hundred seventy ships and over one hundred thousand men lost, the greatest single loss in history'
Since the Ironborn are basically pirates it's not hard to imagine them having a massivle fleet.
"Immediately after the end of the war, a permanent force of ca. 100 vessels was established in the Aegean from the contributions of Rome's allied maritime states. Although sufficient to guard against Mithridates, this force was totally inadequate against the pirates, whose power grew rapidly.[25] Over the next decade, the pirates defeated several Roman commanders, and raided unhindered even to the shores of Italy, reaching Rome's harbor, Ostia.[26] According to the account of Plutarch, "the ships of the pirates numbered more than a thousand, and the cities captured by them four hundred."[27] "

BUT the effect of this would lead to severe deforestation and later soil erosion, basically having to deal with a lot of enviromental problems. Just ask Sicily which used to be a heavily forested island, until the Romans basically cut down every tree they could use, forever changing the landscape of the island.

Wearing a turban makes you racist now? what the fuck man are you braindead? Also Turbans been in fashion in europe for centuries.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Portrait_of_a_Man_by_Jan_van_Eyck-small.jpg

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/b1b7eb3f3e90471c8a3c2d618defb2f2/jan-van-eyck-near-1390-1441-flemish-painter-who-in-1420-discovered-bkypp3.jpg